Re: [Freedos-devel] UEFI, virtual BIOS and virtual hardware - was: Goo gle Summer of Code?

You might want to take a look at the VMusic project by javispedro . It's an open-soure extension pack for VirtualBox that enhances sound emulation support, notably adding high quality OPL3 FM synthesis emulation and MPU-401 emulation with MIDI pass

Re: [Freedos-devel] UEFI, virtual BIOS and virtual hardware - was: Goo gle Summer of Code?

On Sun, 29 Jan 2023 at 14:00, Wilhelm Spiegl wrote: > > Ehhm? Use vhd format supported in win ( except home edition ) That's not the native VirtualBox format, is it? I don't think so. Anyway, I am talking about FOSS OSes here. I don't run Windows. > with virtualbox and you can simply mount the

Re: [Freedos-devel] UEFI, virtual BIOS and virtual hardware - was: Goo gle Summer of Code?

> On Fri, 27 Jan 2023 at 15:54, tom ehlert wrote: > > most people around here already have a working machine, most likely > > Windows or Linux. > On Sun, Jan 29, 2023 at 5:21 AM Liam Proven wrote: > Are these people the target market for FreeDOS? > > Is there an overlap between this demographic

Re: [Freedos-devel] UEFI, virtual BIOS and virtual hardware - was: Goo gle Summer of Code?

On Fri, 27 Jan 2023 at 15:54, tom ehlert wrote: > > Hi, > > most people around here already have a working machine, most likely > Windows or Linux. Are these people the target market for FreeDOS? Is there an overlap between this demographic and the users? > any reason you don't download Virtual

Re: [Freedos-devel] UEFI, virtual BIOS and virtual hardware - was: Goo gle Summer of Code?

Hallo Herr Ben Collver, am Freitag, 27. Januar 2023 um 18:23 schrieben Sie: > On Fri, 27 Jan 2023 at 16:42, tom ehlert wrote: >> any reason you don't download VirtualBox for your platform, select >> >> proper devices (there is even a Soundblaster16 emulated), install DOS

Re: [Freedos-devel] UEFI, virtual BIOS and virtual hardware - was: Goo gle Summer of Code?

On Fri, 27 Jan 2023 at 16:42, tom ehlert wrote: > any reason you don't download VirtualBox for your platform, select > > proper devices (there is even a Soundblaster16 emulated), install DOS > > on it and go. VirtualBox SoundBlaster16 emulation doesn't actually work wi

Re: [Freedos-devel] UEFI, virtual BIOS and virtual hardware - was: Goo gle Summer of Code?

Hi, most people around here already have a working machine, most likely Windows or Linux. any reason you don't download VirtualBox for your platform, select proper devices (there is even a Soundblaster16 emulated), install DOS on it and go. VirtualBox isn't perfect, but probably much better then

Re: [Freedos-devel] UEFI, virtual BIOS and virtual hardware - was: Goo gle Summer of Code?

Louis, yes it would be great if coreboot supported more machines... But you probably understand that it's not a coreboot's fault that the choice isn't wide enough - instead, it's the fault of the modern electronics world which becomes more proprietary-inclined and telemetry (aka spying) -inclined.

Re: [Freedos-devel] UEFI, virtual BIOS and virtual hardware

Thanks, these work! Aitor On Wed, 25 Jan 2023 at 21:46, Robert Riebisch wrote: > Hi Aitor, > > > Both links give me a 404, maybe a problem with pasting? > > https://dosbox-x.com/wiki/Guide%3ADOS-Installation-in-DOSBox%E2%80%90X > https://dosbox-x.com/wiki/Guide%3AManaging-image-files-in-DOSBox%

Re: [Freedos-devel] UEFI, virtual BIOS and virtual hardware

Hi Aitor, > Both links give me a 404, maybe a problem with pasting? https://dosbox-x.com/wiki/Guide%3ADOS-Installation-in-DOSBox%E2%80%90X https://dosbox-x.com/wiki/Guide%3AManaging-image-files-in-DOSBox%E2%80%90X Cheers, Robert -- BTTR Software https://www.bttr-software.de/ DOS ain't dead h

Re: [Freedos-devel] UEFI, virtual BIOS and virtual hardware

Hello Ben, Both links give me a 404, maybe a problem with pasting? Aitor On Wed, 25 Jan 2023 at 18:21, Ben Collver wrote: > On Tue, 24 Jan 2023, Bret Johnson wrote: > > > > > For purposes we're discussing here, I don't think DOSBox (or any of its > > > forks, including vDOS) is a viable solut

Re: [Freedos-devel] UEFI, virtual BIOS and virtual hardware

> You can install FreeDOS in DOSBox. See the links below for more details. In > my experience qemu and VirtualBox are not really geared toward supporting DOS > and they have annoying BIOS bugs that are not present in DOSBox. So while > FreeDOS runs more quickly in qemu and VirtualBox, it runs

Re: [Freedos-devel] UEFI, virtual BIOS and virtual hardware

On Tue, 24 Jan 2023, Bret Johnson wrote: > For purposes we're discussing here, I don't think DOSBox (or any of its > forks, including vDOS) is a viable solution. > > DOSBox really isn't DOS. It's an environment designed to run certain > DOS applications. A lot of stuff is missing in DOSBox that'

Re: [Freedos-devel] UEFI, virtual BIOS and virtual hardware - was: Goo gle Summer of Code?

This would be ideal if coreboot supported more machines ( https://coreboot.org/status/board-status.html). I believe you did some work some years back to prove out cooreboot+SeaBIOS+FreeDOS. I’m not sure a typical user or even experienced FreeDOS users would be keen to swapping out their board’s f

Re: [Freedos-devel] UEFI, virtual BIOS and virtual hardware - was: Goo gle Summer of Code?

Friends, the final solution to "UEFI problem" - is switching to the opensource coreboot BIOS (although that may involve switching to the worthy hardware compatible with coreboot). coreboot's default payload - SeaBIOS - is a modern implementation of a classical BIOS, which is written in C and is mor

Re: [Freedos-devel] UEFI, virtual BIOS and virtual hardware - was: Goo gle Summer of Code?

On Tue, 24 Jan 2023, Bret Johnson wrote: For purposes we're discussing here, I don't think DOSBox (or any of its forks, including vDOS) is a viable solution. DOSBox really isn't DOS. It's an environment designed to run certain DOS applications. A lot of stuff is missing in DOSBox that's nee

Re: [Freedos-devel] UEFI, virtual BIOS and virtual hardware - was: Goo gle Summer of Code?

For purposes we're discussing here, I don't think DOSBox (or any of its forks, including vDOS) is a viable solution. DOSBox really isn't DOS. It's an environment designed to run certain DOS applications. A lot of stuff is missing in DOSBox that's needed to make it a "real enough" DOS to be us

Re: [Freedos-devel] UEFI, virtual BIOS and virtual hardware - was: Google Summer of Code?

Over the last couple years, DOSBox and DOSBoxPure in RetroPie and RetroArch have become quite popular. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LRy8brZ7DVc https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-mD2DnMVoLE Consider standardizing on that. RPis will have access via RetroPie. There’s a version of DOSBox in the variou

Re: [Freedos-devel] UEFI, virtual BIOS and virtual hardware - was: Google Summer of Code?

On Mon, 23 Jan 2023, E. Auer wrote: Depending on how thin the glue and VM layer will be, you will be able to run fewer or more DOS apps with it. You can run some DOS apps in CTTY serial consoles if they only use int 21 for user I/O. There are support modes for simple DOS apps in some boot mana

[Freedos-devel] UEFI, virtual BIOS and virtual hardware - was: Google Summer of Code?

Hi Bret, thanks for the great summary! For awhile, the UEFI manufacturers provided a CSM (Compatibility Support Module) as the "translation layer" so you didn't need a VM. But they've even stopped doing that nowadays. So, we'll either need to come up with a "generic CSM" that doesn't need a