Re: [Freedos-user] Print via USB

2021-05-01 Thread Eric Auer
G'day Bryan, >> That would of course be the EASIEST option as long as your PC >> and your printer both still have Centronics connectivity > > The PC does, but the printer doesn't. Hm, I found the following. > {USB to Parallel Bi-Directional Cable > >     USB to Parallel Bi-Directional Cable   

Re: [Freedos-user] Print via USB

2021-05-01 Thread Bryan Kilgallin
Thanks, Frank: Epson dot matrix printers (ESC*P language) were perfectly willing to print individual characters, a line at a time I guess. They were (are) line printers and the ESC*P "language" is little more than an "extension" of raw ASCII + control characters (CR, LF, FF etc) by "escape seque

Re: [Freedos-user] Print via USB

2021-05-01 Thread Bryan Kilgallin
G'day Eric: Not sure which network chip your PC has? networkNetLink BCM57788 Gigabit Ethernet PCIe That would of course be the EASIEST option as long as your PC and your printer both still have Centronics connectivity The PC does, but the printer doesn't. Hm, I found the following.

Re: [Freedos-user] Print via USB

2021-05-01 Thread Bryan Kilgallin
So, Frank: Install Samba on your Linux PC. It may take a wee bit of learning to configure, but it does not bite back. I can help with snippets of config to make it accept ancient DOS clients. Install the Microsoft Network Client for MS-DOS. You can install this from scratch, or you can try usin

Re: [Freedos-user] Diskman in our Ibiblio collection

2021-05-01 Thread Jim Hall
On Sat, May 1, 2021 at 4:35 PM Eric Auer wrote: > > > Hi Jim, > > the current Diskman website links to archive.org for some of > the content and "inside" the archived website you can jump to > > http://web.archive.org/web/20070206182142/http://www.diskman.co.uk/license.aspx > > Which contains the

Re: [Freedos-user] Diskman in our Ibiblio collection

2021-05-01 Thread dmccunney
On Sat, May 1, 2021 at 5:17 PM Thomas Desi wrote: > > Hi Dennis, I *love* your TextEditors.org site! Thanks for your work! Thank you. I don't believe the site is high volume, but I don't care. Every once in a while I get an email from someone thanking me because TextEdiors provided info or a down

Re: [Freedos-user] Diskman in our Ibiblio collection

2021-05-01 Thread Jim Hall
On Sat, May 1, 2021 at 4:00 PM dmccunney wrote: >[..] > You don't host non open source software on Ibiblio. > > Fair enough, but there needs to be a place to put "Free to use" but > *not* open source that will be of use to Freedos (and DOS in general > users) and useful used on DOS/Freedos. It re

Re: [Freedos-user] Why I use DOS a.k.a. FreeDOS for Dummies?

2021-05-01 Thread Thomas Desi
Thank you, Jim for this overview on roff - groff. And, by the way, if someone is about music typesetting, check out http://lilypond.org/ which is kind-of-similar to *roff but for music. The score can be written as code on FreeDOS with any text editor ;-) -Thomas > On Sat,20210501- week17,

Re: [Freedos-user] Diskman in our Ibiblio collection

2021-05-01 Thread Eric Auer
Hi Jim, the current Diskman website links to archive.org for some of the content and "inside" the archived website you can jump to http://web.archive.org/web/20070206182142/http://www.diskman.co.uk/license.aspx Which contains the following, as of 2/2007, emphasis added by me: "- Diskman is li

[Freedos-user] FreeDOS on UEFI and other present and future hardware tricks

2021-05-01 Thread Eric Auer
Hi Jim, everybody, > I get a lot of the emails you described. People email me to ask why > FreeDOS doesn't run on their Raspberry Pi like Linux does .. or why > FreeDOS can't take advantage of multiple CPUs and cores like Linux > does .. or why FreeDOS can't run on their UEFI-only system (no > "

Re: [Freedos-user] Diskman in our Ibiblio collection

2021-05-01 Thread Thomas Desi
sites/links) > On Sat,20210501- week17, at 22:58, dmccunney > wrote: > > On Sat, May 1, 2021 at 3:26 PM Jim Hall wrote: >> On Sat, May 1, 2021 at 10:59 AM Eric Auer wrote: >>> >>> Hi! Recently I have noticed that our ibiblio contains "DM21" &

Re: [Freedos-user] Diskman in our Ibiblio collection

2021-05-01 Thread Jim Hall
On Sat, May 1, 2021 at 3:25 PM Eric Auer wrote: >[..] > > I downloaded 4.2.a3 from the author's website > > http://www.diskman.co.uk/ and while there's no Readme > > file, running the program prints this notice: > > > >> Licensed to : ALPHA RELEASE. DO NOT DISTRIBUTE... > > The list of versions (o

Re: [Freedos-user] Diskman in our Ibiblio collection

2021-05-01 Thread Robert Riebisch
Hi Eric, > interesting that the DISKMAN website just WORKED. > The idea to view it using archive.org came from > Robert, maybe it did not work from his area? Odd. It's not odd: In private mail, at first, I cited something from . Then I sent two archive.org links, becaus

Re: [Freedos-user] Why I use DOS a.k.a. FreeDOS for Dummies?

2021-05-01 Thread Jim Hall
> On 4/25/2021 10:43 PM, TK Chia wrote: [..] > > troff (as groff) is still very much alive today, as far as I can tell. > > And the troff format is still the default source format for man pages on > > Linux. It is quite a good format for the job, if you ask me. On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 1:54 AM Ral

Re: [Freedos-user] Diskman in our Ibiblio collection

2021-05-01 Thread dmccunney
On Sat, May 1, 2021 at 3:26 PM Jim Hall wrote: > On Sat, May 1, 2021 at 10:59 AM Eric Auer wrote: > > > > Hi! Recently I have noticed that our ibiblio contains "DM21" > I'm not sure why that was on Ibiblio. We can only include open source > software on the Ibiblio site. You don't host non open s

Re: [Freedos-user] Why I use DOS a.k.a. FreeDOS for Dummies?

2021-05-01 Thread Jim Hall
> On 4/22/2021 3:21 AM, Thomas Desi wrote: > > There are many different reasons why people would want to install FreeDOS > > (if they get to know it). > > „ Different" like in „different people“. The needs and equipments are > > different and the mixture of technical generations > > should not re

Re: [Freedos-user] Diskman in our Ibiblio collection

2021-05-01 Thread Eric Auer
Hi Jim, interesting that the DISKMAN website just WORKED. The idea to view it using archive.org came from Robert, maybe it did not work from his area? Odd. > I downloaded 4.2.a3 from the author's website > http://www.diskman.co.uk/ and while there's no Readme > file, running the program prints

Re: [Freedos-user] Diskman in our Ibiblio collection

2021-05-01 Thread Jim Hall
On Sat, May 1, 2021 at 10:59 AM Eric Auer wrote: > > > Hi! Recently I have noticed that our ibiblio contains "DM21" > > https://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/util/disk/dm/ > > which has only bare binaries inside. So I wondered what it is. > Now Robert, who says I should not than

[Freedos-user] Diskman in our Ibiblio collection

2021-05-01 Thread Eric Auer
Hi! Recently I have noticed that our ibiblio contains "DM21" https://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/util/disk/dm/ which has only bare binaries inside. So I wondered what it is. Now Robert, who says I should not thank him, has found the URL http://web.archive.org/web/200702080

Re: [Freedos-user] Forwarding and commenting a FreeDOS 1.3rc3 critical review

2021-05-01 Thread Bryan Kilgallin
Jerome: Many people run FreeDOS on bare metal and their experience of installing the OS is extremely important. However, the overwhelming vast majority of users do not do that. They install into one of the virtual machine platforms. Therefore, their experience should be prioritized. FreeDO

Re: [Freedos-user] Forwarding and commenting a FreeDOS 1.3rc3 critical review

2021-05-01 Thread Eric Auer
Hi! Thanks for clarifying that the installer always asks (and hopefully explains) before choices with big consequences :-) >> Do not tell ME, announce it during the install ;-) > Based on my interpretation of the design constraints > required for the installer, that ain’t gonna happen. Not sure

Re: [Freedos-user] What it was all about for some of us

2021-05-01 Thread Alvah Whealton
Louis, We live in an age in which narratives and dogma, be they religious or secular, overwhelm facts. So I'm grateful to have you point out the truth behind the Verda passage. Al Whealton On Sat, May 1, 2021 at 3:10 AM Louis Santillan wrote: > While empathize with the yearning for the simple

Re: [Freedos-user] Forwarding and commenting a FreeDOS 1.3rc3 critical review

2021-05-01 Thread Jerome Shidel
> On May 1, 2021, at 7:48 AM, Eric Auer wrote: > [..] > it should STILL first ask the user > before installing DOS (pre-existing C: found) or creating > a new partition The installer ALWAYS asks if you want to partition when no DOS compatible partition can not be found. The installer ALWAYS

Re: [Freedos-user] Forwarding and commenting a FreeDOS 1.3rc3 critical review

2021-05-01 Thread ZB
On Sat, May 01, 2021 at 10:57:09PM +1000, Bryan Kilgallin wrote: > Our enemies bless us by telling us our weaknesses! It's not about supposed "weakness" of (Free)DOS; it's about weakness of that "tester", who doesn't want to "waste" time learning. He doesn't want DOS; he wants "kind of other Wind

Re: [Freedos-user] Forwarding and commenting a FreeDOS 1.3rc3 critical review

2021-05-01 Thread Bryan Kilgallin
G'day Eric: However, I have only quoted part of the post and not mentioned the name because my impression was that just publicly shouting how horrible and disgusting FreeDOS is cannot be the start of a productive discussion: Our enemies bless us by telling us our weaknesses! -- members.iinet.n

Re: [Freedos-user] Forwarding and commenting a FreeDOS 1.3rc3 critical review

2021-05-01 Thread Eric Auer
Hi Jerome, others, of course suggestions are just suggestions and depend on whether you have time to work on them and what others think :-) Some feedback to you replies... Given the point "slow boot, slow install, too few apps", I still think Lite should not be too lite and Live should have sign

Re: [Freedos-user] Forwarding and commenting a FreeDOS 1.3rc3 critical review

2021-05-01 Thread Jerome Shidel
> On Apr 30, 2021, at 12:36 PM, Eric Auer wrote: > > > Hi Jerome, Laaca, others, > > Given that I have verbose thoughts about Laaca's review and your > […] > versions. Lite ONLY exists for USB and I think it is TOO small. Wether or not any of those ideas are good or bad, they all take some a

Re: [Freedos-user] What it was all about for some of us

2021-05-01 Thread Louis Santillan
While empathize with the yearning for the simpler time in computing, taking it from Ted Campbell [0], the Verda Spell passage seems like it was intended as a humorous invocation of a muse. Much like Homer did in the Iliad and Odyssey [1][2]. [0] https://sourceforge.net/p/bwbasic/bugs/7/#a62d [1]