Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 News!

2023-06-07 Thread Aitor Santamaría
Hello, On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 at 11:27, wrote: > On Mon, 25 May 2020 at 13:26, Jerome Shidel wrote: > >> >> Why keyb need a 286, it’s a keyboard mapper? >> > > It does not: KEYB /9 should work on 8088 class machines. > > > Wow, this is an old thread (over 3 years)! > Well I am a little behind on m

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 News!

2023-06-07 Thread Ralf Quint
On 6/7/2023 3:44 AM, Liam Proven wrote: On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 at 10:28, wrote: Being an English language and keyboard user, I neither use nor possess knowledge on using various NLS support programs like KEYB. Small but important point. The majority of English speakers are not Americans and we d

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 News!

2023-06-07 Thread Liam Proven
On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 at 10:28, wrote: > Being an English language and keyboard user, I neither use nor possess > knowledge on using various NLS support programs like KEYB. Small but important point. The majority of English speakers are not Americans and we don't use the American keyboard layout.

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 News!

2023-06-07 Thread jerome
Hi Aitor, > On Jun 6, 2023, at 6:19 PM, Aitor Santamaría wrote: > > Hello Jerome, > > On Mon, 25 May 2020 at 13:26, Jerome Shidel > wrote: > > Why keyb need a 286, it’s a keyboard mapper? > > It does not: KEYB /9 should work on 8088 class machines. Wow, this is an

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 News!

2023-06-06 Thread Aitor Santamaría
Hello Jerome, On Mon, 25 May 2020 at 13:26, Jerome Shidel wrote: > > Why keyb need a 286, it’s a keyboard mapper? > It does not: KEYB /9 should work on 8088 class machines. Aitor ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https:

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 floppy ideas

2023-05-05 Thread Aitor Santamaría
Hi, On Sun, 5 Jul 2020 at 18:46, Eric Auer wrote: > > Probably just pull COUNTRY.SYS in favor of MKEYB. > > Make sure to check whether MKEYB works on 8086: It might > require AT level BIOS functionality. > If that ever becomes a problem, FD-KEYB implements the /9 switch to use in non-AT class m

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 floppy ideas

2020-07-05 Thread Jerome Shidel
Hi Eric, > So... SLICER is something like TAR? If you feel the need to compare it to something, then it is most like tar than anything else. But, only in in one aspect. It is more like an installer in another. > A tool to put many > small files in one large file and back, uncompressed? No. It

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 floppy ideas

2020-07-05 Thread Eric Auer
Hi Jerome, if you do not believe that anybody will fix bugs, why do you even update the FreeDOS distro? Please make at least some published list of all bugs you encounter and discuss it here, too. It CAN happen that people fix bugs, even of other maintainers. What are the new beta fdisk 131 feat

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 floppy ideas

2020-07-05 Thread Jerome Shidel
Hi Eric, > On Jul 5, 2020, at 10:40 AM, Eric Auer wrote: > > > Hi Jerome, > > it worries me that you SILENTLY dropped a newer fdisk and > switched to an older version because they both have bugs, > but the older version has less bad bugs. Please explain all > bugs which you have encountered an

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 floppy ideas

2020-07-05 Thread Eric Auer
Hi Jerome, it worries me that you SILENTLY dropped a newer fdisk and switched to an older version because they both have bugs, but the older version has less bad bugs. Please explain all bugs which you have encountered and what keeps us from using a fixed even newer FDISK version. About the spa

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 floppy ideas

2020-07-05 Thread Jerome Shidel
Hi Eric, > On Jul 5, 2020, at 7:23 AM, Eric Auer wrote: > > > Hi! Looking at the 720k boot disk for the installer, > I noticed that FDISKPT.INI and FDISK.INI are quite > large as the former contains many "definitions" of > unknown partition types and the latter contains only > comments and the

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 floppy ideas

2020-07-05 Thread Eric Auer
Hi! Looking at the 720k boot disk for the installer, I noticed that FDISKPT.INI and FDISK.INI are quite large as the former contains many "definitions" of unknown partition types and the latter contains only comments and the end of file marker, so I suggest to reduce the comments (mention that th

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3

2020-06-01 Thread Jerome Shidel
Hi, > On Jun 1, 2020, at 8:23 AM, mich...@robinson-west.com wrote: > >  > What is the goal for Freedos 1.3 Final? I’m not sure I understand your question. So, I will answer it literally. The main goals for 1.3 are to provide overall improvements compared to 1.2. Some of these include a LiveCD

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3

2020-06-01 Thread michael
What is the goal for Freedos 1.3 Final? When possibly will the final release come out? May 31, 2020 5:45 PM, "Jerome Shidel" mailto:jer...@shidel.net?to=%22Jerome%20Shidel%22%20)> wrote: FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 is now available for download and testing. https://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos

[Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3

2020-05-31 Thread Jerome Shidel
FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 is now available for download and testing. https://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/1.3/previews/1.3-rc3/ Please note, this also includes a slight update

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 News!

2020-05-30 Thread C. Masloch
On at 2020-05-29 20:54 -0500, Rugxulo wrote: > There may have been a bug in older FreeDOS boot sectors requiring > 186?? But I thought that was fixed (by ecm). I don't think I ever contributed to the boot sector loaders. I actually checked but there doesn't seem to be any such contribution. https

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 News / 8086 compatibility

2020-05-29 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 11:04 AM Jerome Shidel wrote: > > > On May 25, 2020, at 10:12 AM, Eric Auer wrote: > > > > I guess you could save some disk space by merging some of the > > tools into fewer, more versatile tools, due to cluster sizes? > > Sure, I “could do that”. But, I’m not going t

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 News!

2020-05-29 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 6:26 AM Jerome Shidel wrote: > > > On May 24, 2020, at 1:39 AM, Eric Auer wrote: > > > The extremely limited number of > machines out there that can run FreeDOS and don’t have EGA or > better graphics makes this a very low priority. Didn't Mateusz lightly patch and r

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 News!

2020-05-29 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 6:56 AM Deposite Pirate wrote: > > May 24, 2020 4:07 AM, "Jerome Shidel" wrote: > > > > I may someday add support to V8PT for CGA. But, not soon. I even wonder why > > I limit my ASM code to > > 8086, when the kernel won’t even work on one. I think the lowest anyone

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 News / 8086 compatibility

2020-05-25 Thread Jerome Shidel
Hi, > On May 25, 2020, at 12:25 PM, Mateusz Viste wrote: > > On 25/05/2020 17:29, Jerome Shidel wrote: >> I wouldn’t get anything lower than a 286 to Run the current kernl86.sys. > > Svarog86 is a FreeDOS distribution that uses the kernl86.sys. Works on my > 8086 with no troubles, although it

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 News / 8086 compatibility

2020-05-25 Thread Mateusz Viste
On 25/05/2020 17:29, Jerome Shidel wrote: I wouldn’t get anything lower than a 286 to Run the current kernl86.sys. Svarog86 is a FreeDOS distribution that uses the kernl86.sys. Works on my 8086 with no troubles, although it has a few things turned off (for memory saving, not 8086 compatibilit

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 News / 8086 compatibility

2020-05-25 Thread Jerome Shidel
Hi Eric, > On May 25, 2020, at 10:12 AM, Eric Auer wrote: > > > Hi Jerome, > >> I thought you knew [that V8 means V8 Power Tools] Anyhow... > > Me maybe, but some who are interested in floppy distros not yet ;-) > >> They are a set of command line utilities written in assembly that >> can pr

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 News / 8086 compatibility

2020-05-25 Thread Deposite Pirate
May 25, 2020 5:30 PM, "Jerome Shidel" wrote: > I agree and have said several times, Emulation is not Hardware. > > I wouldn’t get anything lower than a 286 to Run the current kernl86.sys. > > But, as I said, the one tester in the IIRC had been running it on the NEC v30 > w/a 80186. Did a CPU >

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 News / 8086 compatibility

2020-05-25 Thread Jerome Shidel
Hi, > On May 25, 2020, at 11:02 AM, Deposite Pirate wrote: > > I wouldn't be too confident that PCem does not have bugs. I've played a lot > with it recently because my 1512's monitor needs to be repaired and I have > yet to find somewhere I can get that done. There are several things that >

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 News / 8086 compatibility

2020-05-25 Thread Deposite Pirate
I wouldn't be too confident that PCem does not have bugs. I've played a lot with it recently because my 1512's monitor needs to be repaired and I have yet to find somewhere I can get that done. There are several things that don't work with PCem's 1512 emulation that should. I couldn't get a 720k

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 News / 8086 compatibility

2020-05-25 Thread Eric Auer
Hi Jerome, > I thought you knew [that V8 means V8 Power Tools] Anyhow... Me maybe, but some who are interested in floppy distros not yet ;-) > They are a set of command line utilities written in assembly that > can provide a Text based User Interface (TUI) and other... I guess you could save s

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 News!

2020-05-25 Thread Jerome Shidel
Hi Eric > On May 24, 2020, at 1:39 AM, Eric Auer wrote: > > > Hi Jerome, > > what is V8PT and which beyond-text features does it need? I thought you knew this… Anyhow... V8PT (occasionally just V8) is short for V8Power Tools for DOS. They are a set of command line utilities written in assemb

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 News!

2020-05-24 Thread Deposite Pirate
May 24, 2020 4:07 AM, "Jerome Shidel" wrote: > > I may someday add support to V8PT for CGA. But, not soon. I even wonder why I > limit my ASM code to > 8086, when the kernel won’t even work on one. I think the lowest anyone has > had success booting the > FreeDOS kernel was a 80186. FreeDOS 0.

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 News!

2020-05-23 Thread Eric Auer
Hi Jerome, what is V8PT and which beyond-text features does it need? If the FreeDOS kernel does not boot on 8086, that would definitely be a bug. Remember that it is a compile time option whether you want 8086 compatible or whether it is okay to optimize for 186 / 286 / 386. I do not think we us

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 News!

2020-05-23 Thread Jerome Shidel
Hi Eric, > On May 23, 2020, at 9:02 PM, Eric Auer wrote: > >  > Hi Jerome, > >> https://sourceforge.net/p/freedos/news/2020/05/freedos-13-rc3-coming-soon--update-on-floppy-edition/ > > The page (by Jim and Aitor, it says) writes: > >> FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 coming soon + update on Floppy Edition >>

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 News!

2020-05-23 Thread Eric Auer
Hi Jerome, > https://sourceforge.net/p/freedos/news/2020/05/freedos-13-rc3-coming-soon--update-on-floppy-edition/ The page (by Jim and Aitor, it says) writes: > FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 coming soon + update on Floppy Edition > > Work on FreeDOS 1.3 has slowed since FreeDOS 1.3-RC2, but things are > st

[Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 News!

2020-05-23 Thread Jerome Shidel
https://sourceforge.net/p/freedos/news/2020/05/freedos-13-rc3-coming-soon--update-on-floppy-edition/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user