Hi,
On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 9:01 AM R Moog wrote:
>
> It's not as much hurting a nonexistant bottom line by now, but chasing down
> every owner of every piece
> in these versions of Windows and convincing them to re-license their stuff.
> It's a huge hassle.
Yes, it's a hassle, and sometimes
Hi,
On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 9:04 AM Michael C Robinson
wrote:
>
> ReactOS won't replace Windows 9x/ME because it is not dos based.
But it does have a partially working NTVDM nowadays. Seriously, rule
out ReactOS and WINE entirely (i.e. try them with your workload on
your personal machines!)
> The comment that a pick and place machine designed around MS-DOS 6.22
> and Windows 9x/ME is a funny machine is a little disingenuous.
> Freedos didn't exist in a useable form back then and Windows 9x/ME in
> it's day was dominant.
I surely didn't want to insult your amazing machine;
On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 8:54 PM geneb wrote:
> On Thu, 26 Sep 2019, Ralf Quint wrote:
>
> > interest to open source ANY part of ANY windows. Even Windows 1.x and
> > 2.x, which are on GitHub now, are still copyrighted. So it all comes
>
> Copyright has nothing to do with how "open" something is.
The comment that a pick and place machine designed around MS-DOS 6.22
and Windows 9x/ME is a funny machine is a little disingenuous.
Freedos didn't exist in a useable form back then and Windows 9x/ME in
it's day was dominant.
I'm hopeful that we could use freedos on the real time system,
> Freedos should be capable of supporting Windows 3.1, at least in
> standard mode.
AFAIK it does (not that it was ever important for the developers).
> Wouldn't it be great if freedos could support that better and 3.11 as well
> along with a lot of programs from that era?
just organize your
On Thu, 26 Sep 2019, Ralf Quint wrote:
interest to open source ANY part of ANY windows. Even Windows 1.x and
2.x, which are on GitHub now, are still copyrighted. So it all comes
Copyright has nothing to do with how "open" something is.
g.
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Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
: [Freedos-user] Source code to Windows 9x and ME...
On 9/26/2019 6:35 AM, Michael C Robinson wrote:
> Is it possible to get the source code to Windows 9x and ME since
> Microsoft isn't supporting it anymore?
No.
> One would want to get the source code and then open source it of
> c
Quoting Ralf Quint :
On 9/26/2019 6:35 AM, Michael C Robinson wrote:
Is it possible to get the source code to Windows 9x and ME since
Microsoft isn't supporting it anymore?
No.
One would want to get the source code and then open source it of
course. Even Windows 3.1 and Windows 3.11 is
On 9/26/2019 6:35 AM, Michael C Robinson wrote:
Is it possible to get the source code to Windows 9x and ME since
Microsoft isn't supporting it anymore?
No.
One would want to get the source code and then open source it of
course. Even Windows 3.1 and Windows 3.11 is closed source. Surely,
On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 02:03:06PM +, Michael C Robinson wrote:
> ReactOS won't replace Windows 9x/ME because it is not dos based.
Try WINE under Linux ( https://www.winehq.org/ )
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Zbigniew
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On Thursday, September 26, 2019 12:07 PM, Jon Brase wrote:
> ...
> But as someone said upthread, finding someone properly placed to advocate for
> such a thing internally would likely be very helpful in such an effort.
Perhaps Theodore Ts'o or Ky Srinivasan? According to
and general questions about FreeDOS.
Cc: p...@lists.pdxlinux.org
Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Source code to Windows 9x and ME...
Besides being a huge witch hunt for code proprietors and a hassle to convince
them to relicense, it also involves digging out source code that might not
exist anymore
To: Discussion and general questions about FreeDOS.
Cc: p...@lists.pdxlinux.org
Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Source code to Windows 9x and ME...
On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 6:36 AM Michael C Robinson
mailto:mich...@robinson-west.com>> wrote:
Is it possible to get the source code to Windows 9x and ME
eeDOS."
Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Source code to Windows 9x and ME...
On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 11:22 AM Michael C Robinson
wrote:
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> I don't have a few million, but a group able to cobble together a few
> million is more realistic to put together.
Where "realistic" is
On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 8:37 AM Michael C Robinson
wrote:
>
> Is it possible to get the source code to Windows 9x and ME since
> Microsoft isn't supporting it anymore?
> One would want to get the source code and then open source it of
> course. Even Windows 3.1 and Windows 3.11 is closed source.
On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 11:22 AM Michael C Robinson
wrote:
>
> I don't have a few million, but a group able to cobble together a few
> million is more realistic to put together.
Where "realistic" is "extremely unlikely" instead of "totally impossible"
> Question is, how much would membership
neral questions about FreeDOS."
Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Source code to Windows 9x and ME...
I don't have a few million, but a group able to cobble together a few
million is more realistic to put together.
Question is, how much would membership cost in a group whose goal is
to GPL
n Win32/NT
or Gnu/X/Linux.
Original message
From: R Moog
Date: 9/26/2019 09:23 (GMT-06:00)
To: "Discussion and general questions about FreeDOS."
Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Source code to Windows 9x and ME...
There is another way but it's still a hassle for
...@lists.pdxlinux.org
Cc: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [Freedos-user] Source code to Windows 9x and ME...
Is it possible to get the source code to Windows 9x and ME since
Microsoft isn't supporting it anymore?
One would want to get the source code and then open source it of
course. Even Windows 3.1
be put under an open-source
license that explicitly allowed reverse engineering.
Original message
From: Michael C Robinson
Date: 9/26/2019 08:35 (GMT-06:00)
To: p...@lists.pdxlinux.org
Cc: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [Freedos-user] Source code to Windows 9x
On Thu, 26 Sep 2019, R Moog wrote:
There is another way but it's still a hassle for MS. Ask them nicely. If
they decide to follow up on the request then the ball is in their court to
make it happen.
Ideally, you'd find someone that works there that could be an advocate for
the process. If
s probably the biggest thing blocking
the release of old code.
Original message
From: andrew fabbro
Date: 9/26/2019 08:52 (GMT-06:00)
To: "Discussion and general questions about FreeDOS."
Cc: p...@lists.pdxlinux.org
Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Source code
There is another way but it's still a hassle for MS. Ask them nicely. If
they decide to follow up on the request then the ball is in their court to
make it happen.
czw., 26 wrz 2019, 16:15 użytkownik R Moog napisał:
> Rather* grim. I hate autocorrect.
>
> czw., 26 wrz 2019, 16:15 użytkownik R
Rather* grim. I hate autocorrect.
czw., 26 wrz 2019, 16:15 użytkownik R Moog napisał:
> I agree but here's a reality check. The outlook is father grim and we
> won't live until the copyright expires. From copyright.gov, works created
> after 1978 have their copyright expired 70 years after the
I agree but here's a reality check. The outlook is father grim and we won't
live until the copyright expires. From copyright.gov, works created after
1978 have their copyright expired 70 years after the death of its author.
In case of Windows ME, we're looking at all the devs croaking, Microsoft
Quoting andrew fabbro :
On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 6:36 AM Michael C Robinson <
mich...@robinson-west.com> wrote:
Is it possible to get the source code to Windows 9x and ME since
Microsoft isn't supporting it anymore?
One would want to get the source code and then open source it of
course.
Besides being a huge witch hunt for code proprietors and a hassle to
convince them to relicense, it also involves digging out source code that
might not exist anymore. This happens.
czw., 26 wrz 2019, 15:37 użytkownik Michael C Robinson <
mich...@robinson-west.com> napisał:
> Is it possible to
It's not as much hurting a nonexistant bottom line by now, but chasing down
every owner of every piece in these versions od Windows and convincing them
to re-license their stuff. It's a huge hassle.
czw., 26 wrz 2019, 15:37 użytkownik Michael C Robinson <
mich...@robinson-west.com> napisał:
> Is
On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 6:36 AM Michael C Robinson <
mich...@robinson-west.com> wrote:
> Is it possible to get the source code to Windows 9x and ME since
> Microsoft isn't supporting it anymore?
> One would want to get the source code and then open source it of
> course. Even Windows 3.1 and
Is it possible to get the source code to Windows 9x and ME since
Microsoft isn't supporting it anymore?
One would want to get the source code and then open source it of
course. Even Windows 3.1 and Windows 3.11 is closed source. Surely,
Microsoft could release pre 9x Windows? It wouldn't
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