Re: [Freeswitch-users] Call For Help: Janitor Projects

2009-04-01 Thread Raymond Chandler
mszla...@aol.com wrote: You missed the point again. But suffer fools to long. No, I think you missed the point... several times. The point that most of us are trying to make is "if you're not going to help, you have no room to talk". Although, I guess your approach works for you. If you're

Re: [Freeswitch-users] Call For Help: Janitor Projects

2009-04-01 Thread mszlazak
You tried to be nice! Give me a break. Maybe try harder next time. -Original Message- From: Anthony Minessale To: freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org Sent: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 11:23 am Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] Call For Help: Janitor Projects Did you follow the

Re: [Freeswitch-users] Call For Help: Janitor Projects

2009-04-01 Thread mszlazak
You missed the point again. But suffer fools to long. -Original Message- From: Raymond Chandler To: freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org Sent: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 11:29 am Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] Call For Help: Janitor Projects mszla...@aol.com wrote

Re: [Freeswitch-users] Call For Help: Janitor Projects

2009-04-01 Thread Anthony Minessale
how about: "WALL-E projects" maybe Steve J will give us permission. On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Tim Ringenbach wrote: > Anthony Minessale wrote: > > Did you follow the link I posted? > > http://www.google.com/search?q=janitor+project > > > > The linux kernel calls it the same thing and so

Re: [Freeswitch-users] Call For Help: Janitor Projects

2009-04-01 Thread Michael Collins
On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Tim Ringenbach wrote: > Anthony Minessale wrote: > > Did you follow the link I posted? > > http://www.google.com/search?q=janitor+project > > > > The linux kernel calls it the same thing and so do all the other > > project that come up in that search. > > > > Woul

Re: [Freeswitch-users] Call For Help: Janitor Projects

2009-04-01 Thread Tim Ringenbach
Anthony Minessale wrote: > Did you follow the link I posted? > http://www.google.com/search?q=janitor+project > > The linux kernel calls it the same thing and so do all the other > project that come up in that search. > > Would you prefer "Custodial Engineering projects" > It definitely is the comm

Re: [Freeswitch-users] Call For Help: Janitor Projects

2009-04-01 Thread Raymond Chandler
mszla...@aol.com wrote: Pardon me, but you speak only for yourself. I think Janitor is not an appropriate word. you're welcome to your opinions, no matter how wrong they are Second, 'marketing and sales' does not only mean making money. It also means 'selling' someone on the idea of trying so

Re: [Freeswitch-users] Call For Help: Janitor Projects

2009-04-01 Thread Anthony Minessale
be. This > doesn't apply only here in this context but other similar ones as well. > Keeping "creators" from inteact with "customers" is one big reason so many > start-ups fail. > > -Original Message- > From: Raul Fragoso > To: freesw

Re: [Freeswitch-users] Call For Help: Janitor Projects

2009-04-01 Thread Michael Collins
2009/4/1 > Pardon me, but you speak only for yourself. I think Janitor is not an > appropriate word. > I *like* janitors. I *respect* janitors. They are *honorable* and * hard-working*. In short, we need janitors - people who are willing to roll up their sleeves and get work done. Let's agree

Re: [Freeswitch-users] Call For Help: Janitor Projects

2009-04-01 Thread mszlazak
Excellent! The core developers/creators should stay active in the documentation process. -Original Message- From: Brian West To: freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org Sent: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 10:52 am Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] Call For Help: Janitor Projects On

Re: [Freeswitch-users] Call For Help: Janitor Projects

2009-04-01 Thread mszlazak
nope -Original Message- From: Brian West To: freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org Sent: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 10:39 am Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] Call For Help: Janitor Projects Are you referring to PocketSphinx here?? /b On Apr 1, 2009, at 12:24 PM, mszla

Re: [Freeswitch-users] Call For Help: Janitor Projects

2009-04-01 Thread mszlazak
y anything like that. However, the important point was "we have a lot of users like that." Enough said. -Original Message- From: Anthony Minessale To: freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org Sent: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 6:19 am Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] Call For Help: Jan

Re: [Freeswitch-users] Call For Help: Janitor Projects

2009-04-01 Thread Brian West
On Apr 1, 2009, at 12:45 PM, mszla...@aol.com wrote: Call it what it is like "The Documentation Project" or something similar. Because its MORE than Documentation! So that name is silly! Sure, if there was no code there is no FS but I didn't say the code is not important. I was taking

Re: [Freeswitch-users] Call For Help: Janitor Projects

2009-04-01 Thread mszlazak
entation accurate, not to presumptuous and easy to use. -Original Message- From: Brian West To: freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org Sent: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 1:42 am Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] Call For Help: Janitor Projects What do you recommend calling it then? ?I w

Re: [Freeswitch-users] Call For Help: Janitor Projects

2009-04-01 Thread Brian West
Are you referring to PocketSphinx here? /b On Apr 1, 2009, at 12:24 PM, mszla...@aol.com wrote: Currently the documentation is scattered, assumes to much and is outdated/incorrected. Brian West br...@freeswitch.org -- Meet us a ClueCon! http://www.cluecon.com _

Re: [Freeswitch-users] Call For Help: Janitor Projects

2009-04-01 Thread mszlazak
than engineering. "Build it and > they will come" almost never works. > > Anyway, I think you need a new name for this project. > > > > > > -Original Message- > From: Michael Collins > To: freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org > ; > freeswitch-..

Re: [Freeswitch-users] Call For Help: Janitor Projects

2009-04-01 Thread João Mesquita
I am sorry, but I really have to comment this one. Why the fuck do we need to have sooo much politics on an open source project? Janitor, non-janitor, developer, non-developer, girl or boy, we are all trying to get this thing better, aren't we? So leave your fucking ego out of the question

Re: [Freeswitch-users] Call For Help: Janitor Projects

2009-04-01 Thread Michael S Collins
On Apr 1, 2009, at 6:59 AM, Raymond Chandler wrote: > seven wrote: >> I know that. And I'd like to read code. Developers written great code >> and also plenty of comments(which is documentation) in code. However, >> there are sth. don't need to comment in code but should be available >> on wiki

Re: [Freeswitch-users] Call For Help: Janitor Projects

2009-04-01 Thread Raymond Chandler
seven wrote: > I know that. And I'd like to read code. Developers written great code > and also plenty of comments(which is documentation) in code. However, > there are sth. don't need to comment in code but should be available > on wiki. E.g. I followed the svn commit log, and found > sip_

Re: [Freeswitch-users] Call For Help: Janitor Projects

2009-04-01 Thread Anthony Minessale
an > engineering. "Build it and they will come" almost never works. > > Anyway, I think you need a new name for this project. > > > -Original Message- > From: Michael Collins > To: freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org < > freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org>; >

Re: [Freeswitch-users] Call For Help: Janitor Projects

2009-04-01 Thread seven
I know that. And I'd like to read code. Developers written great code and also plenty of comments(which is documentation) in code. However, there are sth. don't need to comment in code but should be available on wiki. E.g. I followed the svn commit log, and found sip_auth_username and sip_a

Re: [Freeswitch-users] Call For Help: Janitor Projects

2009-04-01 Thread Jason White
seven wrote: > Agree, I think the author better to document the code first. Well, actually... it's already done. It's called API documentation, and consists of specially written comments in the code. This is not user-level documentation, however; it exists to help programmers who want to write a

Re: [Freeswitch-users] Call For Help: Janitor Projects

2009-04-01 Thread Brian West
What do you recommend calling it then? I wouldn't be offended by it ... and I can't think of any reason it would offend someone because it describes the task at hand. As far as documentation vs code... without the code there would be ZERO need for any documentation. The code is the harde

Re: [Freeswitch-users] Call For Help: Janitor Projects

2009-04-01 Thread Raul Fragoso
hink you need a new name for this project. > > > > > > -Original Message- > From: Michael Collins > To: freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org > ; > freeswitch-...@lists.freeswitch.org > Sent: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 5:10 pm > Subject: [Freeswitch-users] Call For Help:

Re: [Freeswitch-users] Call For Help: Janitor Projects

2009-04-01 Thread seven
eeswitch.org >; freeswitch-...@lists.freeswitch.org Sent: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 5:10 pm Subject: [Freeswitch-users] Call For Help: Janitor Projects Dear FreeSWITCH Community: As you know, FreeSWITCH has been growing leaps and bounds and it's going to keep growing as the word spreads. The co

Re: [Freeswitch-users] Call For Help: Janitor Projects

2009-04-01 Thread Larry Edelstein
-Original Message- > From: Michael Collins > To: freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org < > freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org>; > freeswitch-...@lists.freeswitch.org > Sent: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 5:10 pm > Subject: [Freeswitch-users] Call For Help: Janitor Projects > > Dear

Re: [Freeswitch-users] Call For Help: Janitor Projects

2009-04-01 Thread mszlazak
I just did, and it was suggestion. -Original Message- From: Larry Edelstein To: freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org Sent: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 12:00 am Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] Call For Help: Janitor Projects You are then volunteering for something? 2009/3/31

Re: [Freeswitch-users] Call For Help: Janitor Projects

2009-03-31 Thread mszlazak
eeswitch.org Sent: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 5:10 pm Subject: [Freeswitch-users] Call For Help: Janitor Projects Dear FreeSWITCH Community: As you know, FreeSWITCH has been growing leaps and bounds and it's going to keep growing as the word spreads. The core development team of Anthony, Mike,

[Freeswitch-users] Call For Help: Janitor Projects

2009-03-31 Thread Michael Collins
Dear FreeSWITCH Community: As you know, FreeSWITCH has been growing leaps and bounds and it's going to keep growing as the word spreads. The core development team of Anthony, Mike, and Brian are very appreciative of the community's help and involvement in the project. Simply put: the community is