On Thu, 2005-11-10 at 14:48 +0100, Dirk Meyer wrote:
> If you remove lambda and/or map, it is not functional anymore.
List comprehensions aren't going away, so at least you don't lose the
functionality of map and filter. You lose reduce though, but I'm not
prepared to shed a tear for that, since
How about lithp
LITHP ... This otherwise unremarkable language is distinguished
by the absence of an "s" in its character set. programmers and users
must substitute "TH". LITHP is said to be useful in proceththing
lithtth.
;)
K
---
SF
Nicolas Chauvat wrote:
> Dirk Meyer wrote:
>
>>I know lisp and like it. So I also like lambda, map and friends. OK,
>>they don't belong into an oo language, but they are nice to have.
>>
>>
> [discussing definitions]
>
> Python is more than OO. SmallTalk and Java are OO. But you can write
> three
Dirk Meyer wrote:
I know lisp and like it. So I also like lambda, map and friends. OK,
they don't belong into an oo language, but they are nice to have.
[discussing definitions]
Python is more than OO. SmallTalk and Java are OO. But you can write
three-lines scripts in python and it will f
Nicolas Chauvat wrote:
> Jason Tackaberry wrote:
>
>> exit_error = Callback(sys.exit, 1)
>>
>>Now if we call exit_error(), sys.exit(1) gets called. Or, if we call
>>exit_error(foo), that expands to sys.exit(1, foo).
>>
>>
> No sure this is the right place where to discuss this, but the above
>
Jason Tackaberry wrote:
exit_error = Callback(sys.exit, 1)
Now if we call exit_error(), sys.exit(1) gets called. Or, if we call
exit_error(foo), that expands to sys.exit(1, foo).
No sure this is the right place where to discuss this, but the above
sounds a lot like function currying whic
On Tue, 2005-08-11 at 00:05 -0800, Cliff Wells wrote:
> On Sun, 2005-11-06 at 09:35 -0500, Jason Tackaberry wrote:
> > On Sun, 2005-11-06 at 10:29 +0100, Dirk Meyer wrote:
> > > I know they are planing to remove lambda, but I guess this would break
> > > a lot of code and I still hope they don't do
On Sun, 2005-11-06 at 09:35 -0500, Jason Tackaberry wrote:
> On Sun, 2005-11-06 at 10:29 +0100, Dirk Meyer wrote:
> > I know they are planing to remove lambda, but I guess this would break
> > a lot of code and I still hope they don't do this.
>
> Ok, _really_? Removing lambda is crazytalk. Unl
On Mon, 2005-11-07 at 15:56 +0100, Toni Alatalo wrote:
> ok. perhaps you could use a function-factory like callback(), to which you
> can
> give a callable, and it returns that callable in such a wrapping that eats
> all arguments?
We do already have a Callback() class, although it won't quite
On Monday 07 November 2005 15:04, Jason Tackaberry wrote:
> On Mon, 2005-11-07 at 15:04 +0100, Toni Alatalo wrote:
> > > argument you don't need: signal.connect(lambda dummy: sys.exit), or
> > why can't you just do signal.connect(sys.exit) ?
> Because in the example I gave, the signal provides an a
On Mon, 2005-11-07 at 15:04 +0100, Toni Alatalo wrote:
> On Monday 07 November 2005 14:36, Jason Tackaberry wrote:
> > argument you don't need: signal.connect(lambda dummy: sys.exit), or
>
> why can't you just do signal.connect(sys.exit) ?
Because in the example I gave, the signal provides an arg
On Monday 07 November 2005 14:36, Jason Tackaberry wrote:
> argument you don't need: signal.connect(lambda dummy: sys.exit), or
why can't you just do signal.connect(sys.exit) ?
surely a function is callable?
why have an unnamed function for something which already is a named function..
> Jason.
On Mon, 2005-11-07 at 11:11 +0100, Dirk Meyer wrote:
> Other stuff on the 'breaking' list:
I don't mind breakage, as long as there's a migration path. Some
version should support both old and new syntaxes (or warn when you use
something deprecated), so that you have time to migrate old code, and
Jason Tackaberry wrote:
> On Sun, 2005-11-06 at 10:29 +0100, Dirk Meyer wrote:
>> I know they are planing to remove lambda, but I guess this would break
>> a lot of code and I still hope they don't do this.
>
> Ok, _really_? Removing lambda is crazytalk. Unless they plan on
> replacing lambda wi
Jason Tackaberry wrote:
On Sat, 2005-11-05 at 23:51 +0100, Nicolas Chauvat wrote:
Do not rely on these too much as they may later on get droped in favor
of the list comprehensions above... Python 3 is the target :)
(Surely you don't mean lambda, but just reduce/map/filter.)
both acc
On Sun, 2005-11-06 at 10:29 +0100, Dirk Meyer wrote:
> I know they are planing to remove lambda, but I guess this would break
> a lot of code and I still hope they don't do this.
Ok, _really_? Removing lambda is crazytalk. Unless they plan on
replacing lambda with something less limited. But r
On Sat, 2005-11-05 at 23:51 +0100, Nicolas Chauvat wrote:
> Do not rely on these too much as they may later on get droped in favor
> of the list comprehensions above... Python 3 is the target :)
(Surely you don't mean lambda, but just reduce/map/filter.)
dischi: I told you list comps were better
Nicolas Chauvat wrote:
> Dirk Meyer wrote:
>
>>enhance emacs and rep to enhance sawfish. If you know functional
>>languages, using lambda is your first choice. So maybe it is better
>>you don't look at lisp or you will starting using map and lambda like
>>I do. ;)
>>
>>
> Do not rely on these too
Dirk Meyer wrote:
enhance emacs and rep to enhance sawfish. If you know functional
languages, using lambda is your first choice. So maybe it is better
you don't look at lisp or you will starting using map and lambda like
I do. ;)
Do not rely on these too much as they may later on get droped i
Jason Tackaberry wrote:
> So I would revise your statement to say "all procedural languages are
> basically the same thing." Prolog, being a logic language, is
> definitely a different beast. Or functional languages like Scheme.
> Learning Scheme has been on my to-do list for far longer than I ca
On Fri, 2005-10-21 at 23:07 +0100, Karl Lattimer wrote:
> Except why the toilet seat keeps falling down when someone has one of
> those annoying 'womans' toilets which don't let you balance the seat up.
> That one can have me flumoxed for a good ten minutes.
Duck tape is the universal problem solv
> Alcohol makes anything make sense. :)
Except why the toilet seat keeps falling down when someone has one of
those annoying 'womans' toilets which don't let you balance the seat up.
That one can have me flumoxed for a good ten minutes.
> I didn't know you had any programming experience.
Start
On Fri, 2005-10-21 at 21:30 +0100, Karl Lattimer wrote:
> Gave up on tea, shifted to beer, python makes sense...
Alcohol makes anything make sense. :)
> lambda is a clever one, confused me at first by by gum its nifty,
I didn't know you had any programming experience. Coming from a
procedural
Thanks for all your help guys, I'm just sitting down with a cuppa teaand some docs and getting started ;)Gave up on tea, shifted to beer, python makes sense... lambda is a clever one, confused me at first by by gum its nifty, its a lot cleaner than defining the function inline ala _javascript_.I'm
> I made a similar joke once, but just to make sure you understand what
> I'm talking about:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AJAX
>
Yep, i know what you mean, however there doesn't seem to be a ready
built api for python without including a bunch of other stuff. I assume
it would be easy enough to
Karl Lattimer wrote:
> On Fri, 2005-10-21 at 14:32 +0200, Dirk Meyer wrote:
>> You also know Ajax?
>
> Used to clean my grandmothers oven with it when I was a kid. Not
> particularly good in the nose ala Cheech and Chong up in smoke, but
> great on those grimey surfaces.
I made a similar joke once
On Fri, 2005-10-21 at 14:32 +0200, Dirk Meyer wrote:
> Karl Lattimer wrote:
> > OK, I've decided, that my slumming around on this list, although I do
> > put in some work when I can (website and soon yum, i'll get back to you
> > soon TCWAN) is a little bit of a liberty on you guys, who do some of
Karl Lattimer wrote:
> OK, I've decided, that my slumming around on this list, although I do
> put in some work when I can (website and soon yum, i'll get back to you
> soon TCWAN) is a little bit of a liberty on you guys, who do some of the
> finest cool, pvr related coding jiggery pokery in the w
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