Re: [FRIAM] "manifold" in mathematics

2009-08-05 Thread Nicholas Thompson
To anybody following the Holt thread: In an offline communication, Eric Charles has pointed out that I misspoke when I wrote: "So each mind is a kind of logical engine that generates a slice of the world in much the same way that a tune is an engine that generates a pattern of touches on a p

Re: [FRIAM] "manifold" in mathematics

2009-08-05 Thread russell standish
On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 10:37:58AM -0600, Nicholas Thompson wrote: > There is a topologist on the list (at least one) who, I am hoping, will offer > at least one more definition of manifold. I say hoping, because at present, > I dont understand why "set" or "metaset" is not a perfectly good def

[FRIAM] Interesting representations of time/movement, and mathematics

2009-08-05 Thread Victoria Hughes
http://humanmotions.com/index.html http://www.strangeattractors.eu/ Lorenz84 is particularly lovely Tory FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscri

[FRIAM] How Sun Microsystems Labs Invented Podcasting

2009-08-05 Thread Owen Densmore
One of the Java Car team realized that we had invented podcasting before Apple did! Here's his webpage: http://web.me.com/curbow/Podcasting/index.html -- Owen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at

[FRIAM] An article has been posted to Institute for Analytic Journalism

2009-08-05 Thread tom
Full article link: http://analyticjournalism.blogharbor.com/blog/_archives/2009/8/5/4279268.html CUTTING-EDGE TECHNOLOGY - from the FBI?  Thanks to Mike Stucka, who passed this along. CUTTING-EDGE TECHNOLOGY New Ways to Analyze Digital Intel  

Re: [FRIAM] Science and Network Analysis

2009-08-05 Thread Marcus G. Daniels
Last week's Science may also be of interest: Reviews by some of the usual suspects in complex systems and network analysis.. Not so much SFI, though. Doug White was one contributor, though: http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/abstract/325/5939/422 Also a brief note on Econophysics: http

[FRIAM] Nature and ABM's

2009-08-05 Thread Roger Critchlow
Today's issue of Nature has: an editorial, http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v460/n7256/full/460667a.html, calling for more development of agent based economic models; an opinion piece by J Doyne Farmer and Duncan Foley, http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v460/n7256/full/460685a.html, calling

Re: [FRIAM] "manifold" in mathematics

2009-08-05 Thread Steve Smith
Owen brings up an interesting (and important in it's relevance?) question... Where is your interest? History/Philosophy of Mathematics? Fascination with words and language? As a component of CAS? As a core mathematical theme to be mastered, somewhat like the epsilon/delta concept of the

Re: [FRIAM] "manifold" in mathematics

2009-08-05 Thread Owen Densmore
Hi Nick. This is an interesting discussion on the concept of Manifolds. But I sense you have a wider interest than just this one word, right? My guess is one of the most important books in this field is Spivak's Calculus on Manifolds. Thus Spivak's interest was in the unification of ide

Re: [FRIAM] "manifold" in mathematics

2009-08-05 Thread Steve Smith
q...@aol.com wrote: Let me add another inquiry to this - how do we reconcile this notion of manifold with the idea of self-similarity? If Epping Forest is a manifold, but the leaves and twigs are not, yet the leaves and twigs have some self-similarity, is Holt truly thinking in terms of the

Re: [FRIAM] "manifold" in mathematics

2009-08-05 Thread Nicholas Thompson
Clairborne, Here is what I think Holt is up to. He is using a model of mathematical induction for his understanding of mind. Mathematical induction is actually a form of logical DEduction in which the combination of a principle with a single case is used to generate a second case, and then a

Re: [FRIAM] "manifold" in mathematics

2009-08-05 Thread ERIC P. CHARLES
Of course, it would be unreasonable to expect Holt to conform to the modern definition of "manifold", as formalized mathematics has changed quite a bit in the last 100 years. While it is not quite as conceptually elaborate as it could be, our friend wikipedia has a bit on the history of the term (h

Re: [FRIAM] "manifold" in mathematics

2009-08-05 Thread qef
Let me add another inquiry to this - how do we reconcile this notion of manifold with the idea of self-similarity? If Epping Forest is a manifold, but the leaves and twigs are not, yet the leaves and twigs have some self-similarity, is Holt truly thinking in terms of the mathematical definitio