[FRIAM] emergence seminar: what's next?

What's next on the reading list? -- glen e. p. ropella, 971-222-9095, http://agent-based-modeling.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps

Re: [FRIAM] emergence seminar: what's next?

On Oct 5, 2009, at 9:36 AM, glen e. p. ropella wrote: What's next on the reading list? Next Week's readings are Oppenheim and Hempel and Dennett. Roger will present. -- Owen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Frid

Re: [FRIAM] emergence seminar: what's next?

Bit of a let down. Nick assigned Chapter 9, Daniel C Dennett, Real Patterns, and Chapter 2, Carl Hempel and Paul Oppenheim, On the Idea of Emergence. Dennett's article was 25 pages originally, trimmed to 19 pages for the emergence collection, and I think they could have trimmed another 18.5 pages

Re: [FRIAM] [Causality in Complex Systems] An important if obvious realization - try Gaia

Thanks for the comments Patrick, Gaia bothers me a bit. As you say, it may not be just "anthropomorphic babble", but it sounds a lot like it--especially if referred to as "she/her." Someone on the Friday group also mentioned Gaia. I had this to say. As generally understood the Gaia hypothesis

Re: [FRIAM] emergence seminar: what's next?

Yeah. Daniel Dennett. What a let down. N Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology, Clark University (nthomp...@clarku.edu) http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ - Original Message - From: Roger Critchlow To: The Friday Morning Applied C

Re: [FRIAM] emergence seminar: what's next?

You may be interested in the Appendix to my "Reductionist blind spot" paper, which reviews Dennet's paper. -- Russ Abbott _ Professor, Computer Science California State University, Los Angeles Cell phone

[FRIAM] EMERGENCE SEMINAR V: Dennett et al; WAS: emergence seminar: what's next?

Glen, My colleagues have already told you what the assignment is, so what follows is little more than spin. In our attempts to understand what is going on in this tangled literature, we have come up with only one way to characterize the different views of emergence that seems to endure more tha

Re: [FRIAM] EMERGENCE SEMINAR V: Dennett et al; WAS: emergence seminar: what's next?

Quoting Nick, For [Hempel and Oppenheim], a characteristic of on object is emergent relative to a theory and relative to a particular list of part attributes when that characteristic cannot be deduced from the part attributes using that theory. So, to say that a property is emergent is only to sa

Re: [FRIAM] EMERGENCE SEMINAR V: Dennett et al; WAS: emergence seminar: what's next?

H&O are quite methodical: "emergence: The occurrence of a characteristic *W*in an object *w* is emergent relative to a theory *T*, a part relation *Pt*, and a class *G* of attributes if that occurrence cannot be deduced by means of *T* from a characterization of the *Pt*-parts of *w* with respect t

Re: [FRIAM] EMERGENCE SEMINAR V: Dennett et al; WAS: emergence seminar: what's next?

What do they do about characteristics that don't have descriptions in T? For example, a house has the characteristic of having 3 bedrooms. That characteristic doesn't exist in theories describing 2 x 4's, PVC, drywall, nails, stucco, etc. What would they do with that? If it's emergent, then no "bet

Re: [FRIAM] EMERGENCE SEMINAR V: Dennett et al; WAS: emergence seminar: what's next?

Thus spake Nicholas Thompson circa 09-10-05 01:00 PM: > In our attempts to understand what is going on in this tangled literature, > we have come up with only one way to characterize the different views of > emergence that seems to endure more than a week: that is the > epistemological vs ontologi

Re: [FRIAM] EMERGENCE SEMINAR V: Dennett et al; WAS: emergence seminar: what's next?

I think they are trying to turn into a not-very-interesting characteristic. Like astronomy before Kepler. Or whatever. Myself, I am a realist about emergence, or I aint interested in it. N Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology, Clark University (nthomp...@clar

Re: [FRIAM] EMERGENCE SEMINAR V: Dennett et al; WAS: emergence seminar: what's next?

As I have often demonstrated before, I am smart enough to get us into a mess, but not smart enough to get us out. But Hempel and Oppenheim are big on the deductiive nomological account of explanation. So let it be the case that I am curious why the brick fell on my toe when I let go of

[FRIAM] Emergence of a New Online Museum

Well, well, well, what do we have here. -- rec -- Sent to you by Roger via Google Reader: Emergence of a New Online Museum via Cosmic Variance by J