Re: [FRIAM] Quote of the week

2011-06-06 Thread Nicholas Thompson
Grant, This seems backwards to me, but I got properly thrashed for my last few postings so I am putting my hat over the wall very carefully here. I thought..i thought .. the information in a message was the number of bits by which the arrival of the message decreased the uncertainty of

Re: [FRIAM] Quote of the week

2011-06-06 Thread Owen Densmore
Nick: Next you are in town, lets read the original Shannon paper together. Alas, it is a bit long, but I'm told its a Good Thing To Do. -- Owen On Jun 6, 2011, at 7:44 AM, Nicholas Thompson wrote: Grant, This seems backwards to me, but I got properly thrashed for my last few

Re: [FRIAM] Quote of the week

2011-06-06 Thread Grant Holland
It seems backwards to almost everybody. Me too. So much so that this little conundrum pushed me to take a deeper look into information theory. The key for me was realizing that I.T. is addressing how much information THERE IS in a situation (probability distribution) - rather than how much

Re: [FRIAM] Quote of the week

2011-06-06 Thread Douglas Roberts
Is anybody else tickled at how this Quote Of The Week elicited a flood of philosophical observations? --Doug On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 1:15 PM, Robert Holmes rob...@holmesacosta.comwrote: From the BBC's science podcast The Infinite Monkey Cagehttp://www.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/series/timc :

Re: [FRIAM] Quote of the week

2011-06-06 Thread Grant Holland
Oops. I meant to say I am very tickled! (not ticked :-{ ) Grant On 6/6/11 9:48 AM, Grant Holland wrote: I'm very ticked. The point seems to be that one pick your favorite - philosophy, physics,... is supreme within some dependency hierarchy of disciplines. I wondering, epistemologically, if

Re: [FRIAM] Quote of the week

2011-06-06 Thread Russ Abbott
If you're interested, I've written a wiki pagehttp://cs.calstatela.edu/wiki/index.php/Entropythat describes entropy. The goal was to make the concept both rigorous and intuitive. If you look at it, let me know where it fails. *-- Russ * On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 9:08 AM, ERIC P. CHARLES

Re: [FRIAM] Quote of the week

2011-06-06 Thread Steve Smith
Doug - Is anybody else tickled at how this Quote Of The Week elicited a flood of philosophical observations? --Doug Utterly pink! PINK I tell you! And you are making it worse with your own tickling! /STO/! I just deleted one of my typical DNRTL (did not read, too long) missives and

Re: [FRIAM] Quote of the week

2011-06-06 Thread Eric Smith
Steve, I promised myself I wouldn't do this, speaking of too long and don't read and all. But do you know how powerful you are, just by being superhumanly articulate? With one line, emphasizing knowing versus understanding, you directed the whole stream into a conversation about information

Re: [FRIAM] Quote of the week

2011-06-06 Thread Steve Smith
Eric - But do you know how powerful you are, just by being superhumanly articulate? Coming from you, of all people, this itself is a supreme compliment! One of the reasons I am on this list (and actually read most of it's traffic!) is that there are a number of incredibly articulate people,

[FRIAM] Fwd: work cost of erasure

2011-06-06 Thread Roger Critchlow
This is has been cooling its bits in the moderator queue for five days. (Because I appended a maxwell demon cartoon from the principle author's web page.) -- rec -- -- Forwarded message -- From: Roger Critchlow r...@elf.org Date: Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 3:24 PM Subject: work cost of

[FRIAM] VPython workshop

2011-06-06 Thread Bruce Sherwood
From http://sfcomplex.org: VPYTHON: 3D PROGRAMMING FOR ORDINARY MORTALS Thursday, June 9, 2011 1:00 pm to 3:00 pm Ruth Chabay and Bruce Sherwood Professors of Physics Emeriti, North Carolina State University VPython is a programming environment that enables even novices to write programs that

[FRIAM] Fwd: Official Google Blog: Introducing schema.org: Search engines come together for a richer web

2011-06-06 Thread Owen Densmore
Looks like RDF has made a leap forward: Google, Yahoo, Microsoft agree on a semantic markup: http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2011/06/introducing-schemaorg-search-engines.html http://www.w3.org/TR/rdfa-syntax/ So Knowledge Reef (Marco) and Redfish were right about the importance of a semantic