Re: [FRIAM] The stopping rule

2011-06-10 Thread Russ Abbott
Right. Each is about 333. *-- Russ Abbott* *_* *** Professor, Computer Science* * California State University, Los Angeles* * Google voice: 747-*999-5105 * blog: *http://russabbott.blogspot.com/ vita: http://sites.google.com/site/russabbott/ *___

Re: [FRIAM] Quote of the week

2011-06-10 Thread Nicholas Thompson
Owen, We could do a Wedtech in September on it. Do you have a cc you could circulate to get us all on the same page? N -Original Message- From: friam-boun...@redfish.com [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Owen Densmore Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 10:17 AM To: The Friday Mo

Re: [FRIAM] The Torture Of Gmail

2011-06-10 Thread Owen Densmore
I hate to admit it, but I'm finding a few things to like. And I found a chrome/firefox solution to the screen space problem. First of all, I really do like one less window on my screen, replaced by a tab in chrome. I finally found DnD but alas only works in the mailbox view, not the individual e

Re: [FRIAM] The Torture Of Gmail

2011-06-10 Thread James Steiner
I've been using Gmail and the web interface for years now. I actually like it... There must be things you want to so with mail that I just don't need to do or something. I find the web UI quite usable--for how I use it. ~~J On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 10:30 PM, Owen Densmore wrote: > Like many a dam

Re: [FRIAM] On Apps and Browsers

2011-06-10 Thread Owen Densmore
[Sorry if this is a repeat, gmail problems]On Jun 10, 2011, at 11:16 AM, Russ Abbott wrote:How do you organize your 10,000 apps and find the one you want at any particular time? -- Russ Abbott_  Professor, Computer Science  California State University, Lo

Re: [FRIAM] On Apps and Browsers

2011-06-10 Thread glen e. p. ropella
Parks, Raymond wrote at 06/10/2011 12:01 PM: > I think you may have missed the point of Russ' message. [grin] Probably. I miss points all the time, especially when couched in very terse language. In fact, if I actually _get_ a point, it's cause for celebration. > The whole > "app" thing, wheth

Re: [FRIAM] On Apps and Browsers

2011-06-10 Thread Parks, Raymond
Glen, I think you may have missed the point of Russ' message. The whole "app" thing, whether web or proprietary, simply hides one layer of comlexity behind another complex layer. The end result is that the luser is completely seperated from their data yet equally confused. Your example of

Re: [FRIAM] On Apps and Browsers

2011-06-10 Thread glen e. p. ropella
Russ Abbott wrote at 06/10/2011 10:16 AM: > How do you organize your 10,000 apps and find the one you want at any > particular time? It can be data-driven with a profiler that takes a signature of the incoming data and chooses based on that. Or you can require magic numbers in the data format. O

Re: [FRIAM] On Apps and Browsers

2011-06-10 Thread Russ Abbott
How do you organize your 10,000 apps and find the one you want at any particular time? *-- Russ Abbott* *_* *** Professor, Computer Science* * California State University, Los Angeles* * Google voice: 747-*999-5105 * blog: *http://russabbott.blogspo

Re: [FRIAM] On Apps and Browsers

2011-06-10 Thread glen e. p. ropella
Owen Densmore wrote at 06/10/2011 09:09 AM: > Files and their management are a bitch. I think this is a natural result of the GUI. FWIW, I also _hate_ navigating file systems with any GUI I've ever had the opportunity to touch. But I _love_ navigating file systems via the command line. I suspec

[FRIAM] On Apps and Browsers

2011-06-10 Thread Owen Densmore
Pardon me if this is to weird for words, but our other conversation brought out the phenomenon of Apps. Attached below this is the original fragment. Basically I was surprised by the growth of "Apps", especially with the apparent convergence of everything in the browser (Web Apps). It has now be

Re: [FRIAM] The Torture Of Gmail

2011-06-10 Thread Owen Densmore
On Jun 10, 2011, at 6:17 AM, Robert Holmes wrote: Got some specifics? What are the usability issues? I'm curious, because I love the interface, so I'm worried that I must be missing something! --R Here's a copy from and off-line chat w/ Roger. I was tempted to respond "Gawd, let me count the wa

Re: [FRIAM] The Torture Of Gmail

2011-06-10 Thread Alfredo Covaleda
I use many of google functionalities. Docs, calendar, web sites. My main email account is provided by google but using my own domain. With such amount of space I collect in this account all my pop3 and imap mail accounts provided by others (gmx, hotmail, aol, etc). I only have had problems to get m

Re: [FRIAM] The Torture Of Gmail

2011-06-10 Thread Robert Holmes
Got some specifics? What are the usability issues? I'm curious, because I love the interface, so I'm worried that I must be missing something! --R On Thursday, June 9, 2011, Owen Densmore wrote: > Like many a damn fool, I'm seriously trying to use Gmail, via the web > interface. > > Now, I (pos