Re: [FRIAM] symmetry breaking

Nick, hi, This time I really, really am under the gun and have no business answering. But you are not being foolish. You are pushing correctly on a set of statements that are not a principle. As Steve and Peter and others have said, the only way to properly handle this is actually to work out a

Re: [FRIAM] symmetry breaking

Thanks, Eric, for taking the question seriously. I will study your answer with care. All the best, Nick -Original Message- From: friam-boun...@redfish.com [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Eric Smith Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 8:35 AM To: The Friday Morning Applied C

Re: [FRIAM] symmetry breaking

Oops! I need to make an emendation: It was Roger Critchlow who sent all the Dill papers whenever-it-was, perhaps a year ago. I remain equally grateful, this time to the right person. Many thanks, Eric FRIAM Applied Complexity Group

Re: [FRIAM] symmetry breaking

On 6/30/11 8:02 AM, Nicholas Thompson wrote: Thanks, Eric, for taking the question seriously. I will study your answer with care. Ask a simple question, and waddya get? Another day older and deeper in (conceptual) debt! Eric says: " All these flow problems that we talk about are not descr

[FRIAM] Gmail Phishing Warning Messages

I've recently changed to gmail, web browser version, and have seen the following warnings in many posts to these lists from gmail users: This message may not have been sent by: x...@gmail.com Learn more Report phishing

Re: [FRIAM] symmetry breaking

So here's a vortex game for you all. There is a fleet of sail boats racing from Newport, Rhode Island across the Atlantic to the mouth of the English Channel. If you go to http://www.nyyc.org/transatlantic/ and click on [Tracker] you'll get a map of the North Atlantic with the positions and track

[FRIAM] A Little Learning

    Yes, correspondents are correct.   My remarks were pretty stupid, as they usually are.   Apologies.   No one needs to be told what they don’t know.   I was trying to make the point that in bathtub vortex flow there is huge body of theoretical and experimental research and pr

Re: [FRIAM] A Little Learning

Hi Everybody, Thank you for each of these. Total apologies for the thing about mantras, which I did not intend as an insult to anybody, because I am keenly aware that several of you have done a lot more to actually solve and understand the system under discussion than I have. Also, I valu

[FRIAM] "thought experiments"

Nick having expressed some outrage at what he perceives as (nefarious?) "thread hijacking" (what I prefer to think of as "thread drift", but, hey), I'm starting a new thread. It seems to me that "thought experiment" (and its German original) is a misleading phrase; further, it seems to me that Ni

Re: [FRIAM] [sfx: Discuss] Gmail Phishing Warning Messages

I'm not kidding, here's the email I got from your response! Anyone else? Or do I have to figure out how to fix gmail & chrome. Again! -- Owen [image: Google Chrome007.75.gif] On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 12:37 PM, Marie F wrote: > On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Owen Densmore > wrote: > >

Re: [FRIAM] "thought experiments"

lrudo...@meganet.net wrote at 06/30/2011 01:03 PM: > What one is actually *doing* (I claim), when conducting > a "thought experiment", is much more analogous to > calculating than it is to experimentation. Odd synchronicity that this would come across Twitter only an hour and a half after you sai

Re: [FRIAM] "thought experiments"

Lee, Not an answer, but more grist to the mill: Interestingly, if we believe in the cartesian theatre, then your points hold better - In a world in which I have perfect knowledge of my own mind, it should be impossible to perform a thought experiment, because I could never get a result that was n

Re: [FRIAM] [sfx: Discuss] Gmail Phishing Warning Messages

Owen—this email is composed in gmail's web interface and it's actually from a gmail address (I've got my "send mail as..." set to the address you see). One email is going direct to you, the other via FRIAM. Do you get phishing warnings on either of them? —R On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Owen

Re: [FRIAM] "thought experiments"

Eric, Lee, I have never been a thread-fascist before, but I am glad that this is a new thread because, on the other one, I actually reported an real-life experiment and got results that disconfirmed the theory. Those gallons of water I spilled down the sink were NOT in my mind. If I h

Re: [FRIAM] Gmail Phishing Warning Messages

Funny. I also use gmail, and exclusively with the web UI. I don't get these warnings attached to my mailing lists messages. Perhaps I at some point marked these as trusted? I don't remember doing that! ~~James On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 1:13 PM, Owen Densmore wrote: > I've recently changed to gmai

Re: [FRIAM] Gmail Phishing Warning Messages

And here's what I see reading your email: This message may not have been sent by: gregortr...@gmail.com Learn more Report phishing Weird. Great example of What You See Is Not What I see! (WYSINWIS) -- Owen On Thu