Re: [FRIAM] Just as a bye-the-way

2012-03-23 Thread Douglas Roberts
Russ, your rant was conducted in the pure spirit of FRIAM; I would have been disappointed had I not received at least one. And I enjoyed it, thanks! --Doug On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 11:31 PM, Russ Abbott wrote: > Doug, I don't want to pick on you, but your certificate strikes me as > indirect b

Re: [FRIAM] Just as a bye-the-way

2012-03-23 Thread Greg Sonnenfeld
Ramen. Greg Sonnenfeld “The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite insane.” On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 11:31 PM, Russ Abbott wrote: > Doug, I don't want to pick on you, but your c

Re: [FRIAM] Just as a bye-the-way

2012-03-23 Thread Douglas Roberts
The Vicar of Vermicelli approves. Sent from Android. On Mar 23, 2012 9:34 AM, "Greg Sonnenfeld" wrote: > Ramen. > > > Greg Sonnenfeld > > “The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane > to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be qu

[FRIAM] Bullying?

2012-03-23 Thread Pamela McCorduck
Another skeptic here, and I don't think the Spaghetti Stuff is anything like bullying. If you're going to believe the unbelievable without question (have faith, they put it) then have the courage of your convictions, and expect not everybody will agree. It seems to me the most egregious bul

Re: [FRIAM] Bullying?

2012-03-23 Thread Douglas Roberts
Beautifully said, Pamela. Regarding propping the Coptic Pope, all I can say is that I imagine he was pasta his prime after three days. I suppose one could also present this event as proof that religion really does stink. -Doug Sent from Android. On Mar 23, 2012 11:35 AM, "Pamela McCorduck" wro

Re: [FRIAM] Just as a bye-the-way

2012-03-23 Thread Robert J. Cordingley
I'm told many find comfort in the teachings of leader here>. I thought it odd/insightful thatJoseph Cambell found the same core message in the world's major religious teachings. I can believe moral atheists share the same core teachings. Then the

Re: [FRIAM] Just as a bye-the-way

2012-03-23 Thread Douglas Roberts
Good question about infinite intelligence. Try to even frame a reference for answering that one. Sent from Android. On Mar 23, 2012 12:14 PM, "Robert J. Cordingley" wrote: > I'm told many find comfort in the teachings of leader here>. I thought it odd/insightful that Joseph > Cambell

Re: [FRIAM] Which programming languages are fastest? | Computer Language Benchmarks Game

2012-03-23 Thread Greg Sonnenfeld
It would be interesting to see this same benchmark done on an Intel C compiler. Its a bit of a misnomer to compare Intel Fortran to GNU C. GNU C should probably be compared to GNU F77. A good thing to think about is how compiler implementation and optimization will impact performance. **

Re: [FRIAM] Google Play

2012-03-23 Thread Carl Tollander
So they have some box that figures out that its the same performance on the same day by the same artists of the same song from the same angle? On 3/23/12 9:49 AM, Owen Densmore wrote: On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 11:00 PM, Carl Tollander > wrote: Well, that would be

Re: [FRIAM] Just as a bye-the-way

2012-03-23 Thread Douglas Roberts
So, for reference: a 2X intelligence delta that we have all probably experienced, perhaps without knowing it, would be from talking with a person who had an IQ of 70, followed by engaging with a person having a140 IQ. I will ignore quibbles about the accuracy of IQ as an intelligence measure for

Re: [FRIAM] Just as a bye-the-way

2012-03-23 Thread James Steiner
I come at the whole "I'm ordained so now I can marry folk" thing from a different direction: in many states, *anyone* can be an officient at a wedding. No special documentation is required. In those places, any accrediting document for that purpose is a joke document. ~~The Reverend James Steine

Re: [FRIAM] Just as a bye-the-way

2012-03-23 Thread Douglas Roberts
Indeed, and New Mexico is one of those states. Regardless, I am inordinately proud of my new ordination. :) -Doug Sent from Android. On Mar 23, 2012 3:15 PM, "James Steiner" wrote: > I come at the whole "I'm ordained so now I can marry folk" thing from a > different direction: in many states

Re: [FRIAM] Just as a bye-the-way

2012-03-23 Thread Robert J. Cordingley
It's possible that... - there may be a direct correlation between less intelligence and belief in what others will tell them (e.g. dogma and religious BS) - because neither knows any better. - and that may have nothing to do with whether a belief in the Divine is correlated with intelligen

Re: [FRIAM] Just as a bye-the-way

2012-03-23 Thread Victoria Hughes
Be interesting to hear why your ordination has meaning to you. That it does is obvious, and your willingness to engage in FRIAM about it implies there's an aspect of having it that you may not have mentioned. Yes? No? Maybe? Tory On Mar 23, 2012, at 3:21 PM, Douglas Roberts wrote: Inde

Re: [FRIAM] Just as a bye-the-way

2012-03-23 Thread Nicholas Thompson
So, Doug, explain to me how you come to believe in the validity of induction? From: friam-boun...@redfish.com [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Douglas Roberts Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 2:43 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Just a

Re: [FRIAM] Just as a bye-the-way

2012-03-23 Thread Russell Standish
When we put it in a computer, it works. My email spam filter (spamassassin) uses a machine induction technique called Bayesian networks. It is remarkably effective at keeping spam out, and learning, in the process, what I consider to be spam. In order to persuade me that induction is invalid, you

Re: [FRIAM] Just as a bye-the-way

2012-03-23 Thread Nicholas Thompson
I, too, can make an argument for the validity of induction; However, that's not the point. I wanted to hear Doug;s Nick -Original Message- From: friam-boun...@redfish.com [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Russell Standish Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 11:22 PM To: The Fri