Re: [FRIAM] [EXTERNAL] Re: Fwd: COS 597G: Surveillance and Countermeasures, Fall 2013

2013-10-21 Thread Parks, Raymond
WRT the Covert Channels paper - Header extensions and IP options are not actually practical channels. They sound good but in practice they run afoul of the problem that network equipment, particularly routers, process packets in hardware - unless they have unusual extensions or IP Options, i

Re: [FRIAM] [EXTERNAL] Re: Fwd: COS 597G: Surveillance and Countermeasures, Fall 2013

2013-10-21 Thread Steve Smith
Ray - Great real-world report... my direct experience in all this is dated by at least 6 years, but most of it nearly 10 years old now... time flies! The only question I have about your response below is about the question of bandwidth... while *some* important data/secrets are large, many

Re: [FRIAM] [EXTERNAL] Re: Fwd: COS 597G: Surveillance and Countermeasures, Fall 2013

2013-10-21 Thread Parks, Raymond
Files in modern systems tend to grow faster than Moore's law. It's possible to exfiltrate some information via low bandwidth channels - but the type of information that is of high value is frequently either related to system access or to legacy systems. If one has enough access to create a cov