Re: [FRIAM] Origins of Life

2016-04-24 Thread Jochen Fromm
The ocean vent theory is not new, or is it?  http://www.space.com/32379-life-building-blocks-deep-sea-vents.html IMHO it becomes more interesting when RNA and DNA is involved, that is to say when a code is involved. It is the same with ancient cultures, the stone age is barely interesting, it get

Re: [FRIAM] Origins of Life

2016-04-24 Thread David Eric Smith
Hi Nick, Russ, and all, Far too much here to be able to answer, but I feel this is one I should pick up a little. I am relieved that your question is quite specific: > I am curious to know if others have read this book, and what you might think > of it. I haven't read this book. Maybe some

Re: [FRIAM] Origins of Life

2016-04-24 Thread Stephen Guerin
Nick, I downloaded Nick Lane's Vital Question book a couple months back. From a quick skim I got the sense it was a nice review of much of the work going on around non-equilibrium thermodynamic origin of life explanations by the "Seventh Day Ventists" (eg second law arguments for the emegence of l

Re: [FRIAM] Origins of Life

2016-04-24 Thread Carl
http://phys.org/news/2016-04-scientists-rna-abundant-space.html Folks conflate the comet-origins direction with panspermia, but they are not quite the same thing. On 4/24/16 1:47 AM, Jochen Fromm wrote: The ocean vent theory is not new, or is it? http://www.space.com/32379-life-building-blocks

Re: [FRIAM] Origins of Life

2016-04-24 Thread Stephen Guerin
I composed my email before seeing Eric's post. Having now read his email, I would say let's not get too distracted by Nick Lane's Vital Question for the task we set ourselves at FRIAM. I think Eric's talks bests represents what I was calling the view of life as gradient dissipation and a property