Re: [FRIAM] Friam Digest, Vol 164, Issue 29

2017-02-15 Thread Jon Zingale
yeah you guys are all right, fluorescent lights forever. They feel totally great and gee whiz, we can even think under them. best idea of the 20th century. On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 7:20 PM, wrote: > Send Friam mailing list submissions to > friam@redfish.com > >

Re: [FRIAM] FW: Fractal discussion Landscape-bird songs

2017-02-15 Thread Nick Thompson
Steve, Birdsongs can be temporally fractal. If curious, see https://www.researchgate.net/publication/239787151_A_system_for_describing_b ird_song_units . Please let me know if you can’t get at this, and I will post it another way. By temporally fractal, I mean, for instance,

Re: [FRIAM] FW: Fractal discussion Landscape-bird songs

2017-02-15 Thread Vladimyr Burachynsky
Nick or Glen, I have been mulling over the thread about Representation versus Dynamicism for a bit and the differences that language imposes whenever cross-disciplines attempt to converse. Today I was struggling with some code to create Voronoi Meshes nested within each other based on

Re: [FRIAM] FW: Fractal discussion Landscape-bird songs

2017-02-15 Thread Steven A Smith
Nick - This is one of your (wonderfully, and I mean that seriously) naive questions, and the naive answer is yes, they are surely coupled. I'm very interested in "soundscapes" so am often very aware of both the complex passive structure of most soundscapes (especially landscape vs

Re: [FRIAM] Naïve physics question

2017-02-15 Thread Steven A Smith
Nick - The thing that might not be obvious is that Frank's *electric* bill went down. If he were heating *with* electricity, the difference might not be as significant... I suspect his (gas?) heating bill is a similar number of BTUs down, they are just cheaper BTUs than ones coming out of

[FRIAM] FW: Fractal discussion Landscape-bird songs

2017-02-15 Thread Nick Thompson
Hell, List, I would like to introduce to you Alberto Alaniz (who describes himself in the communication below). I “met” him on Research Gate when he downloaded a paper of mine on the structural organization of bird song. I noticed that he was writing from a Landscape Department, and

Re: [FRIAM] Why depth/thickness matters

2017-02-15 Thread Vladimyr Burachynsky
I am an iconoclast as a consequence of trying to use statistical modelling during earlier stages of my life. zThese statistical models were generally very poor when applied to field work in animal distributions until someone accepted that truth and started admitting "clumpiness in

Re: [FRIAM] Naïve physics question

2017-02-15 Thread Barry MacKichan
An old North Carolina farmer (later confirmed by an advanced amateur astronomer) to put two incandescent bulbs in series. The halving of the voltage lowers the temp of the bulbs significantly, and at the lower voltage, the bulbs last essentially forever. I have no idea what happens if you do

Re: [FRIAM] Why depth/thickness matters

2017-02-15 Thread glen ☣
On 02/14/2017 09:51 AM, Eric Charles wrote: > Thanks for the reorientation! If you want to discuss complexity, I think an > interesting question regarding perception-action systems is how much of the > complexity has to be inside the organism, and how much of it can be > encapsulated in the

Re: [FRIAM] Naïve physics question

2017-02-15 Thread Nick Thompson
Frank, ‘n all. It looks like I am… not to put too fine a point on it… WRONG about this. I hate when that happens. It seems WILDLY counter intuitive to me, but so, I should admit, does most of physics. You are all going to have to explain it to me VERY patiently, perhaps over

Re: [FRIAM] Naïve physics question

2017-02-15 Thread Gary Schiltz
Robert, thanks for the answer. I think that the question for me boiled down to "is light a form of energy"? Of course, the naive physicist in me should have realized that of course it does, otherwise solar panels couldn't work. Re: conservation, I was partly asking the question from a different

Re: [FRIAM] Naïve physics question

2017-02-15 Thread Frank Wimberly
Nick, Over the last 2 or 3 years I have replaced most of our incandescent light bulbs with equivalent (light output) LED bulbs. Our electric bill has gone down about 20% summer and winter. When I worked in the Robotics Institute I was leader of a project to put sensors all over a fluorescent

Re: [FRIAM] Naïve physics question

2017-02-15 Thread Nick Thompson
All— Can I piggy back on to Gary’s question with one of my own. Much more naïve. Even tho I am an ardent conservationist, I believe that claims for energy saving from light bulbs that don’t spill heat only approach truth in the warmest parts of our country. Where yearly annual temperature