Re: [FRIAM] On the: RLY!? side

Nick, it would be politically insensitive / incorrect for me to discuss America's blacks in the context of, say, white plantation owners, "field hands" and "house n**s" (not sure if I can use this word online nowadays) which parallel India's untouchables or Japan's Burakumin /Eta societal structu

Re: [FRIAM] On the: RLY!? side

Sarbajit, I am both fascinated and baffled by your note, and hope you will say more. I am in the thrall of a book entitled CASTE which makes a parallel between the untouchables and American blacks. So for you to associate high class with untouchability is disorienting. I gather that the

Re: [FRIAM] On the: RLY!? side

Hi I would like to give you an "Asian" (perhaps culturally distasteful) perspective on this from India. India has (officially) the 2nd highest number of COVID-19 infections and deaths after the USA. However, within India, there is a small class of people, like me, called Adi Brahmins .. it's a H

Re: [FRIAM] On the: RLY!? side

Pieter: YES! thats what I was trying to ask. Personally I think the science and tech around Vaccinations just rocks. On the human side: It is amazingly cool what people can do what we decide to do so. you bring up a good point! I watched youtube videos from people that made the vaccines. LOL I did

Re: [FRIAM] On the: RLY!? side

They aren't under a mandate to have sufficient capacity, or they'd have sufficient capacity. Through a triage process they can prioritize. It must happen already, even if it isn't legal. Oh, the local drug addict is here again. That guy is probably not #1 for the attention of the doctors.

Re: [FRIAM] On the: RLY!? side

That's just nonsense. By the time you're at the ER, the vaccine is largely irrelevant. Plus, when some 18 year old kid comes in unconscious with a gunshot wound, it's difficult to ask her if she's been vaccinated or not. Anyway, most large hospitals are under a mandate to treat whoever walks in

Re: [FRIAM] On the: RLY!? side

Will you consent to a vaccine? Yes: You get treatment for your non-COVID condition. No: Get lost. -Original Message- From: Friam On Behalf Of u?l? ?>$ Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2021 9:53 AM To: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] On the: RLY!? side Because the majority of th

Re: [FRIAM] On the: RLY!? side

Because the majority of the patients in the ERs are not covid patients. (Last I heard the percentages were around 60-70% are non-covid. But I'm sure it's location dependent.) They're regular people with regular problems, many of whom delayed medical treatments for a year due to lockdowns. We did

Re: [FRIAM] On the: RLY!? side

Why should we increase the capacity of the hospitals? Just don't let them in. -Original Message- From: Friam On Behalf Of u?l? ?>$ Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2021 9:25 AM To: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] On the: RLY!? side Well, only if you don't make a big stink out of it. I

Re: [FRIAM] On the: RLY!? side

Thanks. Nicely done, Dr. Steelman, In my 4 decades with diabetes, I have lived through (and mostly ignored) 4 different medical fads, all demanding, all diminishing quality and spontaneity of life, and all ultimately determined to be nugatory, or even damaging. Why wouldn't a wise patient be

Re: [FRIAM] On the: RLY!? side

Well, only if you don't make a big stink out of it. If it's a normal, everyday thing, yeah sure. But if it's some litmus test for who's with us or who's against us, then they're much less willing to submit to such tests. You see this in spades w.r.t. to the protests. In Portland, they antifa are

Re: [FRIAM] On the: RLY!? side

< The more they dig in, the more it pushes me to dig in. The more emphatically you are pro-vaccine, the more emphatically I become anti-vaccine. Reason and reasonableness leaves the building. > These same people are willing to submit to an employer's drug tests. -Original Message- From:

Re: [FRIAM] On the: RLY!? side

Maybe I can steelman it, since I have so many personal relationships with anti-vax people. When I look around at the world, I see a clear difference between those people like me and those people who seem very different from me. Interacting with the people who are very different is stressful an

Re: [FRIAM] On the: RLY!? side

Pieter, People are always tasking me to find examples of where dualistic thinking leads us astray. I think you have one, here. The idea of self deception (or any deception, for that matter) implies that there is a Truth of the matter outside all experience, and knowing that Truth is adapt

Re: [FRIAM] Kill it!

O! Carl. Corvids teaching? Let me know about that if you stumble on it again. n Nick Thompson thompnicks...@gmail.com https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ From: Friam On Behalf Of Carl Tollande

Re: [FRIAM] Eternal questions

https://www.quantamagazine.org/mental-phenomena-dont-map-into-the-brain-as-expected-20210824/ A quanta article titled The Brain Doesn’t Think the Way You Think It Does Joseph LeDoux > is a > neuroscientist at NYU known for his pi

Re: [FRIAM] Eternal questions

> On Aug 25, 2021, at 12:03 PM, > wrote: > > I apparently accidently deleted the entire body of this message before > sending. Ah, well. Let’s just stipulate that it was excellent and solved > all problems Of that I have no doubt. > and then forget about it, eh? To close, I should sa

Re: [FRIAM] Kill it!

> Note: Some beehives have a defense, they clump around the scout in a buzzing > ball, and though many in the ball lose their heads, collectively they raise > the temperature of the hornet scout and "cook" it. It doesn't release > enough pheromone such that the other hornets follow up. All, d

Re: [FRIAM] On the: RLY!? side

Gillian, My take on your question of how this thinking, of being an antivaxer, works? For me, the key lies in understanding human behavior. I know I'm waltzing on very thin ice because there are others in this group who have already forgotten what I still have to learn about human behavior , so I