Re: [FRIAM] Liberal dilemmas

Yes, Dave, good question. Don't remember you're being particularly scared of the Trumpies. I was terrified of them and still am. Armed, entitled, and entitled with mass media egging them on. Reminds me a bit of Ruanda. n Nick Thompson thompnic

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Jon, You’ve discovered a nifty new psychological survey method. Mind if I pass it on to my qualitative psychology group? If you don’t mind. Why not all four cells in the table? A measure of othering. If I can share it, and you have it readily available, can you resend the link to the c

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Geez, Dave. You're skeered of little old ME? N Nick Thompson thompnicks...@gmail.com https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ From: Friam On Behalf Of Prof David West Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2021 6:24 P

Re: [FRIAM] Liberal dilemmas

One of my neighbors has decorated his house for Labor Day with an enormous banner that says "Fuck Trump." I sicked the local Puritans on them. Should be fun to watch. n Nick Thompson thompnicks...@gmail.com https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ -Original Message- From: Friam On

Re: [FRIAM] Liberal "othering" or statement of fact?

< Western medicine often has a hard time discovering the "chemistry behind such cures" because they are looking for a specific problem and a (usually) single chemical "cure." Most folk medicine and long established areas like Aryuvedic medicine focus on multi-factor "cures" addressing multi-fac

Re: [FRIAM] Liberal dilemmas

Since we're mostly old people on this list, some older than others, it might be useful to suggest that "liberal" no longer means "left" in most lefty circles I travel. Liberals are just slightly to the left of the middle. Basically, liberals are now moderates. It's not the liberals that are "wok

Re: [FRIAM] Liberal dilemmas

Dave writes: "And I am terrified of liberals (progressives, democrats) because, at the moment, they have the power of government enforcement of their diktats." Is that a liberal property, or just a property of anyone that has power? What is a specific thing that liberals have done that is terr

Re: [FRIAM] Liberal dilemmas

I reacted to the comic with the mental observation that, to me, conservatives seem heaven bent on telling people what they *cannot* do or think; while liberals are hell bent to telling you what you *must* do and think. (If you don't do as they say you are, at minimum, stupid or, more likely, evi

Re: [FRIAM] Liberal "othering" or statement of fact?

The most widely used drug for open heart surgery was discovered by a woman researching zombies in Haiti. There were (probably no longer are) well documented cases of zombies, people pronounced dead by physicians, buried, dug up late that night and seen wandering around the village with severely

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Thank you, Glen and Frank. Seeing the image, and whether authoritarian or not, I couldn't help but relate. There have probably (right or wrong) been a number of times in the last month where the very same narrative ran through my mind while in line for coffee or groceries or whatever. I appreciate

Re: [FRIAM] Liberal "othering" or statement of fact?

Our daughter's inlaws are Evangelical Christians. They support Trump but they got their vaccinations as soon as they could except for our son-in-law who resisted until our daughter got forceful. He still resists wearing a mask. The mother said she's decided that both the left and the right are i

Re: [FRIAM] Liberal "othering" or statement of fact?

For this to give the woo-woos further conviction, one would have to identify a traditional remedy that is effective (e.g. an immunomodulator of some kind?), and that hadn’t yet been discovered because no one thought to look. From: Friam On Behalf Of Roger Critchlow Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 202

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Thanks for the link to NCCIH . Had never heard of it. Some interesting information, presumably reliable and without a monetary motivation. -- Russ Abbott Professor Emeritus, Computer Science California State University, Los Angeles On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 7:31 AM uǝlƃ

Re: [FRIAM] Liberal "othering" or statement of fact?

I don't know, there are many reasons why a pharmaceutical company might fail. One of the most spectacular is illustrated by googling "glycoRNA". So, a whole class of biological compounds, short RNA sequences decorated with glycans (also known as polysaccharides), first suspected to exist in 2019

Re: [FRIAM] Liberal "othering" or statement of fact?

Ha! I didn't miss the point. I rejected it. Left wingers are prone to it, too. Whether you see them as "right" or "left" is irrelevant to the actual group and more relevant to *you*. The actual group is "those who buy into snake oil." On 8/31/21 9:42 AM, thompnicks...@gmail.com wrote: > You guys

Re: [FRIAM] Liberal "othering" or statement of fact?

You guys' (guises'?) capacity to miss the point is only equaled by my own. THE POINT WAS: Does the Krugman article point to an actual group of people who share the properties of being prone to snake oil pitches, right wing politics, (and, I would add, revivalist religions), or is this "group" a

Re: [FRIAM] Liberal "othering" or statement of fact?

I think you guys are counting on natural selection to do a lot work than it is capable of. How many illegitimate children to you guess Alex Jones has!!! I’d guess more than all the discussants on this thread put together. n Nick Thompson thompnicks.

Re: [FRIAM] Liberal "othering" or statement of fact?

Yeah, I suppose a locus on the left centers around the concepts of "natural", "organic", or "holistic" whereas on the right it's more fractured, objective oriented. And since much of science is structured by focused objectives, the righties tend to align with targeted science and the lefties ten

Re: [FRIAM] Liberal "othering" or statement of fact?

On one hand there is woo-woo, but others have semi-reasonable concerns that drug candidates don't make it through the medical establishment. I am skeptical about that because pharma stands to make money from any compounds that work, and they have huge investments in high throughput screening.

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If they're influencing their children along those lines this is, as we have discussed, natural selection at work. I wonder if the effect on future elections will be measurable. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Tue, Aug 31, 2021, 8:18 AM

Re: [FRIAM] Liberal "othering" or statement of fact?

I don't want to be a "both sides" person. But there's plenty of that on the left, too. I suppose it's for products like Paltrow's: https://goop.com/ Or reiki. Or crystals. Snake oil is non-partisan. One thing that's a toss-up for me is the NCCIH: https://www.nccih.nih.gov/ On the one hand, I'm

Re: [FRIAM] Liberal "othering" or statement of fact?

Or *both* On Aug 31, 2021, at 7:18 AM, thompnicks...@gmail.com wrote:  So saith Paul Krugman: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/30/opinion/covid-misinformation-supplements.html Once you’re sensitized to the link between snake oil and right-wing politics, you realize that it’s pervasive. This i

[FRIAM] Liberal "othering" or statement of fact?

So saith Paul Krugman: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/30/opinion/covid-misinformation-supplements. html Once you're sensitized to the link between snake oil and right-wing politics, you realize that it's pervasive. This is clearly true in the right's fever swamps. Alex Jones of Infowars h