Russ Abbott wrote circa 07/20/2010 09:55 PM:
If all the particles were arrayed in a regular lattice, the description
could be smaller than the universe itself. I thought that was the point
of entropy.
Perhaps you're right. But that is also counter-intuitive to me. If
entropy really is a
Russ Abbott wrote circa 07/19/2010 05:06 PM:
On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 4:13 PM, glen e. p. ropella
g...@agent-based-modeling.com mailto:g...@agent-based-modeling.com
wrote:
I guess that's a joke. But to be overly literal minded, one random
distribution of elements is not the same as another
Please see below.
-- Russ
But my underlying point still stands: that when
characterizing a physical system (with concepts like entropy and
thermodynamics as a whole), one has to choose the layers or aspects they
want to pay attention to. If the characterization is intended to
capture the
Vladimyr Ivan Burachynsky wrote circa 10-07-16 06:53 PM:
Another confused old guy, But there was something called Planck's Distance
that said that two atoms could not get any closer under normal circumstances
without enormous forces yet Bose condensates are literally superimposed
Under the information-based view of entropy a heat death universe would have
high entropy because it would take a large amount of information--a great
many bits--to capture it. One would have to say where each bit of material
is. Since each bit is more or less randomly located, there is no way to
Russ Abbott wrote circa 10-07-17 04:28 PM:
I just ran across this
http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/mathematics-explanation/. (Call it
the horizontal force.)
I think this is a categorical error. This measurement bias is distinct
from an entropic force. Again admitting that I'm ignorant
Russ Abbott wrote circa 10-07-19 03:54 PM:
Under the information-based view of entropy a heat death universe
would have high entropy because it would take a large amount of
information--a great many bits--to capture it. One would have to say
where each bit of material is. Since each bit is
On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 4:13 PM, glen e. p. ropella
g...@agent-based-modeling.com wrote:
A further interesting thing (perhaps only to my self-gratifying thoughts) is
that the maximal entropy heat death actually _can_ be described with very
little information. All it takes is a uniform RNG
On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 08:57:42PM -0400, lrudo...@meganet.net wrote:
Shephard points out (in his paper speculating on why
humans have a 3D color space) that for terrestrial
animals (at least, ones that live above the scale
where things like surface tension of water and
viscosity
Russ, I don't get this at all. Two points:
1) There are an infinite number of ways that a line can be parallel to a
plane; there is exactly one way it can be perpendicular to the plane. Is
that the point?
2) The degree of orientation around the X and the Y axises don't have
anything to do with
On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 8:41 AM, Ted Carmichael teds...@gmail.com wrote:
Russ, I don't get this at all. Two points:
1) There are an infinite number of ways that a line can be parallel to a
plane; there is exactly one way it can be perpendicular to the plane. Is
that the point?
2) The
I agree with the comments on the psychology/perception issue. But I don't
agree with this:
So no matter which bisecting plane through the sphere we examine, it will
always have more sticks parallel to it than to the orthogonal pole. So this
actually explains a planar force. There more
Hey Roger, Your posts inspired me to track you down a bit. Nice website (The
Entropy Liberation Front http://elf.org/puzzle). Not many posts, though.
You should post more. I like your Puzzle Earth http://elf.org/puzzle. Very
nice--except that the cursor doesn't always grab what it should.
--
On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Russ Abbott russ.abb...@gmail.com wrote:
Hey Roger, Your posts inspired me to track you down a bit. Nice website (The
Entropy Liberation Front http://elf.org/puzzle). Not many posts, though.
You should post more. I like your Puzzle Earth
Sent: July 18, 2010 1:27 PM
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Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Entropic force
Hey Roger, Your posts inspired me to track you down a bit. Nice website
(The Entropy Liberation Front http://elf.org/puzzle ). Not many posts,
though. You should post more. I like
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Hey Roger, Your posts inspired me to track you down a bit
It's in Cosmides and Tooby, THE ADAPTED MIND. When you find my damned copy,
send it back to me.
Nick
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Sent: Jul 18, 2010 6:21 AM
To: Russell Standish r.stand...@unsw.edu.au, friam@redfish.com
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On Sat
I just ran across
thishttp://plato.stanford.edu/entries/mathematics-explanation/.
(Call it the horizontal force.)
There appear to be physical explanations that are non-causal. Suppose that a
bunch of sticks are thrown into the air with a lot of spin so that they
twirl and tumble as they fall. We
Russ,
This seems very weird to me (as, of course, it is intended to). First off, I'm
not sure it is an explanation any more then a proof by definition. Second,
at least in the case of a 2D snapshot, there are just as many 3D configurations
that appear perfectly vertical as appear perfectly
On 17 Jul 2010 at 20:10, ERIC P. CHARLES wrote:
Russ,
This seems very weird to me (as, of course, it is intended to). First off, I'm
not sure it is an explanation any more then a proof by definition.
If it's an explanation of any thing, I think it's
an explanation of the manner in which we
On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 08:57:42PM -0400, lrudo...@meganet.net wrote:
Shephard points out (in his paper speculating on why
humans have a 3D color space) that for terrestrial
animals (at least, ones that live above the scale
where things like surface tension of water and
viscosity of the
Roger Critchlow wrote circa 10-07-13 09:07 PM:
The proposition of entropy causing action at a distance reminded me of a
notorious demonstration. A beaker of water and a beaker of sugar
dissolved in water are sealed together inside a bell jar. Over time the
level of liquid in the beaker of
://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
http://www.cusf.org [City University of Santa Fe]
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From: glen e. p. ropella g...@agent-based-modeling.com
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group friam@redfish.com
Date: 7/16/2010 12:34:15 PM
Subject: [FRIAM] entropic force
PM
To: friam@redfish.com
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] entropic force (was Gravity as an emergent phenomenon)
Glen,
You and Grant are starting to make my poor=old rejected english major's
brain spin: I think I have finally seen the point of this whole discussion
about gravity. Let it be the case
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