Re: [FRIAM] Information technology judiiciary.

2007-08-09 Thread Glen E. P. Ropella
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Pamela McCorduck wrote: > On Aug 8, 2007, at 9:09 PM, Nicholas Thompson wrote: >> I think there is a difference between a political discussion in >> which we all ideologically flatulate one one where we, as experts, >> contribute to clarifying a proble

Re: [FRIAM] Information technology judiiciary.

2007-08-09 Thread Pamela McCorduck
On Aug 8, 2007, at 9:09 PM, Nicholas Thompson wrote: > Pamela, > > I think there is a difference between a political discussion in which > we > all ideologically flatulate one one where we, as experts, contribute to > clarifying a problem that the rest of the world totally misunderstands. > >> F

Re: [FRIAM] Information technology judiiciary.

2007-08-08 Thread Marcus G. Daniels
Nicholas Thompson wrote: > From a technical stand point, does the idea of a IT-Judiciary make sense??? > If laws are made routinely that facilitate certain government officials to persecute people for no good reason than their political convenience (e.g. for individuals' public statements), th

Re: [FRIAM] Information technology judiiciary.

2007-08-08 Thread Nicholas Thompson
ake sense??? Nick > [Original Message] > From: Pamela McCorduck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group > Date: 8/8/2007 1:37:14 PM > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Information technology judiiciary. > > Nick. I

Re: [FRIAM] Information technology judiiciary.

2007-08-08 Thread jpgirard
08, 2007 1:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Information technology judiiciary. Nick. I share your outrage--was just on the phone to an old pal who used to be John Kerry's legislative director. Those supine Democrats! I

Re: [FRIAM] Information technology judiiciary.

2007-08-08 Thread David Breecker
But remember, at risk of digressing: IT can also be a powerful tool in support of human rights; I think someone wise once said that technology is neutral. It's the intent of its users that makes it a force for good or bad. For a good example, see Benetech.org: The Human Rights Data Analysi

Re: [FRIAM] Information technology judiiciary.

2007-08-08 Thread PPARYSKI
Certainly Nick has a point about information technology being used to impinge upon basic rights. I do believe that those involved in IT and complexity/modeling should be concerned about the use of these powerful tools. They could be used for example to data mine criticism of the Iraq inva

Re: [FRIAM] Information technology judiiciary.

2007-08-08 Thread Marcus G. Daniels
Pamela McCorduck wrote: > I don't want to turn FRIAM into a political bulletin board, so perhaps > I should simply say that yes, I agree that data mining presents very > different issues, and needs some imaginative ideas for privacy > protection. > Too late, don't even try to backpedal. Now you

Re: [FRIAM] Information technology judiiciary.

2007-08-08 Thread Pamela McCorduck
Nick. I share your outrage--was just on the phone to an old pal who used to be John Kerry's legislative director. Those supine Democrats! I hate to give up my right to vote in a primary, but I'm appalled by both parties right now, and certainly don't feel I belong to the Democrats, who not on

[FRIAM] Information technology judiiciary.

2007-08-08 Thread Nicholas Thompson
All, I feel like "WE" (by which I mean you-all) have something to contribute to the current discussion on warrantless wire taps.Note the Washington Post, below. Does anybody else agree that Data Mining needs an entirely different structure of civil rights protections then investigations