Re: [FRIAM] Message from Cambridge

2013-11-04 Thread Arlo Barnes
nothing you find can be used in court against me. The problem is the same one government has right now: we cannot immediately know Snowden is not making up any given leak (although we probably have good reason to think not by now), but most any claim he makes we can FOIA. It is the knowledge

Re: [FRIAM] Message from Cambridge

2013-11-04 Thread Pamela McCorduck
I'm not praising data mining without my permission; just saying what happened, and grateful my eccentricities didn't sent them on a witch hunt. Yes, I understand what you're saying about the other issues, Arlo. This is an ugly moment in a civilized country. And today comes a report from a

Re: [FRIAM] Message from Cambridge

2013-11-04 Thread Nick Thompson
...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Pamela McCorduck Sent: Monday, November 04, 2013 9:58 AM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Message from Cambridge I'm not praising data mining without my permission; just saying what happened, and grateful my eccentricities didn't sent

Re: [FRIAM] Message from Cambridge

2013-11-04 Thread Marcus G. Daniels
On 11/4/13, 1:45 AM, Arlo Barnes wrote: we cannot immediately know Snowden is not making up any given leak but in some cases.. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2013/11/04/how-we-know-the-nsa-had-access-to-internal-google-and-yahoo-cloud-data/

Re: [FRIAM] Message from Cambridge

2013-11-03 Thread Pamela McCorduck
Perhaps we already knew was for most of us more like, we suspected. But for myself, I didn't already know. To suspect seemed too far-fetched. I mean, MY telephone calls? Who'd care? It's a shock to discover that the NSA cares, and is very busy indeed. And so we might finally rear up, and say

Re: [FRIAM] Message from Cambridge

2013-11-03 Thread Marcus G. Daniels
On 11/3/13, 12:28 PM, Pamela McCorduck wrote: I'm not suspected of anything, so get out of my life, NSA. If you insist on staying there, nothing you find can be used in court against me. Network analyses from transaction metadata addresses that -- to find something suspect. Fixing the latter