Re: [FRIAM] Rosen, Life Itself - in context

2008-08-13 Thread Phil Henshaw
> OK. So perhaps you might be willing to change your question to: > "Given > an INcomplete math representation of a button, how would you derive a > math representation of a button hole?" If you did that, then we might > be able to formulate an answer. However, although that modified > questio

Re: [FRIAM] Rosen, Life Itself - in context

2008-08-13 Thread glen e. p. ropella
Phil Henshaw wrote: > You seem to suggest it is 'illformed' to have local knowledge and unanswered > contextual questions. No, not at all. One can easily have an incomplete math representation of some aspect of a concrete thing. But one cannot have a complete math representation of some aspect

Re: [FRIAM] Rosen, Life Itself - in context

2008-08-13 Thread Phil Henshaw
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Rosen, Life Itself - in context > > Phil Henshaw wrote: > > So, you get the representation of the unknown context of a thing by > somehow > > knowing that the thing is not well described with

Re: [FRIAM] Rosen, Life Itself - in context

2008-08-13 Thread glen e. p. ropella
Phil Henshaw wrote: > So, you get the representation of the unknown context of a thing by somehow > knowing that the thing is not well described without it? How do you know > what you're missing?I don't get where you propose the missing > information to come from. What? I don't understand.

Re: [FRIAM] Rosen, Life Itself - in context

2008-08-13 Thread Phil Henshaw
gt; From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of glen e. p. ropella > Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 2:29 PM > To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Rosen, Life Itself - in context > > Phil Henshaw wrote: > > You say

Re: [FRIAM] Rosen, Life Itself - in context

2008-08-12 Thread glen e. p. ropella
Phil Henshaw wrote: > You say math can jump in and out of context with 'meta-math', "a mechanistic > method for "jumping out" of the context of any given mechanism into its > entailing context."If you have a complete mathematical representation of > a button, how would you derive a representati

Re: [FRIAM] Rosen, Life Itself - in context

2008-08-12 Thread Phil Henshaw
Glen, You say math can jump in and out of context with 'meta-math', "a mechanistic method for "jumping out" of the context of any given mechanism into its entailing context."If you have a complete mathematical representation of a button, how would you derive a representation of a button hole fr