Hopefully in the most loving way. I very much admire the dedication of a
focused scholar, but I also enjoy poking a little fun at inevitable myopia.
Chandrasekar likely feels like you do about Newton, but that wouldn't stop
me from giggling when he speaks of Newton as the foremost Physicist.
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aps I will stop talking, now.
Nick
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By my internal model of Nick, I would guess that he is referring to Peirce.
Though it is funny to imagine that logic has done nothing of consequence since
1914, that no other thinkers have come along and moved the subject forward, and
I don't mean to derail here, but I would love to see an analysis of the tonk
operator as a terminal object in an additive category. It seems like it's
function is a lot like the zero vector space or the trivial group in a
category with exact sequences. Idk.
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Well, computation is a direct descendant of logic. And "mathematical logic" is
a bit of an offshoot related to the foundations of math. Things like modus
ponens are simply mechanical/effective transformations. You can build any logic
you want by removing or adding the operations from some formal
By my internal model of Nick, I would guess that he is referring to Peirce.
Though it is funny to imagine that logic has done nothing of consequence
since 1914, that no other thinkers have come along and moved the subject
forward, and that logicians still simply practice the subject from within
som
stipulate your objections.]
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>> Funny how, this article, a celebration of logic, buggers the definition
>> of logic, leaving out it’s ethical dimension. Well, unless one believes
>> that specious or fallacious logic is “logical”, logic is “good” thought,
>> i.e. thought that leads probably to the tru
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Both EricS and Marcus launched in the direction I want to go, which I *think*
ends in parallel Turing machines. Modern AI/ML is
Both EricS and Marcus launched in the direction I want to go, which I *think*
ends in parallel Turing machines. Modern AI/ML is clearly a success. And I'd
argue that its success depends fundamentally on its multi-paradigm modeling (or
as it makes more sense to me, multiple "models of computation
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this whole conversation seems so (il)logical
> Its funny how a non-logician presupposes he has a better definition of logic
> than others. The arrogance is debilitating.
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> On 1/14/21 8:31 AM, thompnicks...@gmail.com wrote:
>> It’s nice to know that logic is being celebrated. Still – surprise!—
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No, Nick. Thinking logically is just not thinking holistically, it misses the
whole enchilada, and one of the reasons we're doomed--clumsy, but the best I
have time to come up with now.
On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 10:24 AM
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Ha! It's like you didn't even read what I wrote. [sigh] Arrogance isn't the
problem. It's *this* particular arrogance that is debilitating.
On 1/14/21 11:33 AM, thompnicks...@gmail.com wrote:
> Glen, I have to say this: You are */at least/* as arrogant as I am, */and I
> love you for it/*/. /
So there,
Nick
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I tend to follow the standard diagnostic caveat that some thing isn't a problem
I tend to follow the standard diagnostic caveat that some thing isn't a problem
until/unless it *interferes* with one's daily activities. And the dose is the
poison. Arrogance (or over-confidence), as Jon pointed out one time can be
quite useful and appropriate in some circumstances. (I don't fi
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No, Nick. Thinking logically is just not thinking holistically, it misses the
whole enchilada, and one of the reasons we're doomed--clumsy, but the best I
have time to come up with now.
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Its funny how a n
Its funny how a non-logician presupposes he has a better definition of logic
than others. The arrogance is debilitating.
On 1/14/21 8:31 AM, thompnicks...@gmail.com wrote:
> It’s nice to know that logic is being celebrated. Still – surprise!—I have a
> correction.
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> Logic ... [is] the princi
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I find this celebration very disturbing and even dangerous at a time when some
are beginning to realize that logic alone is bereft of the complexity of all
the ways of being in a more
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In 1963 I was taking Philosophy 12, Introduction to Formal Logic, at
Berkeley. The professor at some point during the semester said that he
used to teach other lower division courses but once he was discussing the
meaning of "reality" and some student had a psychotic break. He was then
relegated
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> The ability to think is one of the most defining features of humankind. In
> different cultures, the definition of humanity is associated with concepts
> such as consciousness, knowledge and reason. According to the classic western
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