Re: [Full-disclosure] [OT] Obama said: American people understand that not everybody's been following the rules

2011-10-14 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 22:44:44 PDT, Mike Hale said: Seriously! Think about the injustice of having American helicopters engage armed individuals shadowing American soldiers. Shooting at armed individuals is one thing. If it's civilians and Reuters employees who *aren't* obviously armed, it's

Re: [Full-disclosure] [OT] Obama said: American people understand that not everybody's been following the rules

2011-10-14 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 2:19 AM, Mike Hale eyeronic.des...@gmail.com wrote: Except that they weren't obviously unarmed. Not only where they not obviously unarmed, they appeared to be armed. Look at the 4 minute mark. That sure as shit looks like an RPG. The crew thought the group was

Re: [Full-disclosure] [OT] Obama said: American people understand that not everybody's been following the rules

2011-10-14 Thread Mike Hale
Obviously not. Again. They looked like they had weapons. The pilots weren't wondering...they were sure they saw weapons. They then engaged what appeared to be a clear threat to other US forces nearby. The pilots acted exactly as they should have, given the information presented to them. This

Re: [Full-disclosure] Possible German Governmental Backdoor found (R2D2)

2011-10-14 Thread xD 0x41
Andrew, please check all computers that you have used recently, as somebody has apparently compromised at least one account you use at Yahoo and is posting as you using your Yahoo credentials. I got this mail purportedly from you less than an hour later... hrm, although Andrew himself, seems to

Re: [Full-disclosure] [OT] Obama said: American people understand that not everybody's been following the rules

2011-10-14 Thread Darren Martyn
...And what, exactly, gave the US the right to be there in the first place? Non existant WMD? Human rights? The US has to stop seeing themselves as international police. /ends miniature rant On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 7:28 AM, Mike Hale eyeronic.des...@gmail.comwrote: Obviously not. Again.

Re: [Full-disclosure] Snail mail vs. Email

2011-10-14 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 1:34 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 22:11, Jeffrey Walton noloa...@gmail.com wrote: Sparta, as one of the first democracies, had it right. They put the public officials on trial when their term expired because they knew what Class A

Re: [Full-disclosure] [OT] Obama said: American people understand that not everybody's been following the rules

2011-10-14 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 7:26 AM, Darren Martyn d.martyn.fulldisclos...@gmail.com wrote: ...And what, exactly, gave the US the right to be there in the first place? Non existant WMD? Human rights? The US has to stop seeing themselves as international police. The US can't police itself; and it

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2011-10-14 Thread Major Malfunction
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Re: [Full-disclosure] [OT] Obama said: American people understand that not everybody's been following the rules

2011-10-14 Thread Christian Sciberras
Yes, since humanity is a great success in a fragmented form. Not. Then again, there are those that believe the end of the world will come when man stops fighting with each other, so I suppose even culture and tradition are against me on this one. Fair enough, I don't quite care about the damage

Re: [Full-disclosure] [OT] Obama said: American people understand that not everybody's been following the rules

2011-10-14 Thread Georgi Guninski
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Re: [Full-disclosure] Full-Disclosure Digest, Vol 80, Issue 59

2011-10-14 Thread Michael Schmidt
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Re: [Full-disclosure] [OT] Obama said: American people understand that not everybody's been following the rules

2011-10-14 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On October 14, 2011 2:05:40 AM -0400 valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 22:44:44 PDT, Mike Hale said: Seriously! Think about the injustice of having American helicopters engage armed individuals shadowing American soldiers. Shooting at armed individuals is one thing. If

Re: [Full-disclosure] [OT] Obama said: American people understand that not everybody's been following the rules

2011-10-14 Thread Paul Schmehl
Go watch a few beheading videos and then come back and regale us with your stories of innocent civilians. -- Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. *** It is as useless to

Re: [Full-disclosure] Supermicro IPMI documentation omission: presence of second admin account

2011-10-14 Thread Jan van Niekerk
It seems that as user Anonymous there is not a lot to do on the CLP/2 interface. You can, however, access serial over lan as anonymous using IPMI: ipmitool -I lanplus -H 192.168.0.1 -P admin -U sol activate Moral: consider the serial port to be untrusted on these devices. Supermicro? Are

Re: [Full-disclosure] [OT] Obama said: American people understand that not everybody's been following the rules

2011-10-14 Thread Christian Sciberras
Resorting to personal attacks? Nice. Technical skills in what? Running a wordpress blog? Defacing a website? Growing pot? I rarely publicise any materials, most of the time I just tell whoever is responsible to do a fix. I'm not really running after publicity, unlike you guys. Also note that I

Re: [Full-disclosure] [OT] Obama said: American people understand that not everybody's been following the rules

2011-10-14 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Fri, 14 Oct 2011 13:56:12 CDT, Paul Schmehl said: Go watch a few beheading videos and then come back and regale us with your stories of innocent civilians. Do you have actual hard evidence that the people killed by the helicopter gunfire were in fact *the same people* that were responsible

Re: [Full-disclosure] [OT] Obama said: American people understand that not everybody's been following the rules

2011-10-14 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On October 14, 2011 3:39:06 PM -0400 valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: On Fri, 14 Oct 2011 13:56:12 CDT, Paul Schmehl said: Go watch a few beheading videos and then come back and regale us with your stories of innocent civilians. Do you have actual hard evidence that the people killed by the

Re: [Full-disclosure] [OT] Obama said: American people understand that not everybody's been following the rules

2011-10-14 Thread Laurelai
On 10/14/2011 2:25 PM, Christian Sciberras wrote: Resorting to personal attacks? Nice. Technical skills in what? Running a wordpress blog? Defacing a website? Growing pot? I rarely publicise any materials, most of the time I just tell whoever is responsible to do a fix. I'm not really

Re: [Full-disclosure] [OT] Obama said: American people understand that not everybody's been following the rules

2011-10-14 Thread Christian Sciberras
Yeah, let's just all ignore low insults. The world would be a much better place without them and whoever said them in the first place... On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 11:02 PM, Laurelai laure...@oneechan.org wrote: On 10/14/2011 2:25 PM, Christian Sciberras wrote: Resorting to personal

Re: [Full-disclosure] [OT] Obama said: American people understand that not everybody's been following the rules

2011-10-14 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 2:54 PM, Paul Schmehl pschmehl_li...@tx.rr.com wrote: --On October 14, 2011 2:05:40 AM -0400 valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 22:44:44 PDT, Mike Hale said: Seriously!  Think about the injustice of having American helicopters engage armed individuals

Re: [Full-disclosure] [OT] Obama said: American people understand that not everybody's been following the rules

2011-10-14 Thread xD 0x41
Cristiano , per favor' mi dai dieci minuti scusa mi ma, e' essentiale .. You really dont realise how much, you attack others when they post, NOMATTER what the topic... yet you are still wondering why somany people seem to despise your skinny little nerdy ass... well, nerdy isnt bad, but, your a

Re: [Full-disclosure] [OT] Obama said: American people understand that not everybody's been following the rules

2011-10-14 Thread Mike Hale
Of all the wars, crimes and massacres that happen in the world, you're gonna sit here and tell me it's the US that the security council should have stopped? If that's truly your attitude, your worldview is completely FUBAR. On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 4:29 AM, Jeffrey Walton noloa...@gmail.com

Re: [Full-disclosure] [OT] the nigger said: American people understand that not everybody's been following the rules

2011-10-14 Thread William Warren
Crossed what line? Frankly if black folks can call each other nigger it's reverse discrimination for white folks to not be able to say it as well. If you don't want the word used..don't use it at all. If you want the racist card to stick to a word don't use it yourself when referring to

Re: [Full-disclosure] [OT] Obama said: American people understand that not everybody's been following the rules

2011-10-14 Thread Laurelai
On 10/14/2011 6:32 PM, xD 0x41 wrote: Cristiano , per favor' mi dai dieci minuti scusa mi ma, e' essentiale .. You really dont realise how much, you attack others when they post, NOMATTER what the topic... yet you are still wondering why somany people seem to despise your skinny little nerdy

Re: [Full-disclosure] [OT] the nigger said: American people understand that not everybody's been following the rules

2011-10-14 Thread Laurelai
On 10/14/2011 4:04 PM, William Warren wrote: Crossed what line? Frankly if black folks can call each other nigger it's reverse discrimination for white folks to not be able to say it as well. If you don't want the word used..don't use it at all. If you want the racist card to stick to a

Re: [Full-disclosure] [OT] Obama said: American people understand that not everybody's been following the rules

2011-10-14 Thread Christian Sciberras
You think I'm biting that? Skinny and under-age is just about everything you could come up with. Congrats for creativity. Just because two of you decided you found common grounds for insult doesn't mean you're god-almighty-indisputably-right in every piece of shit you come up with. Did I

Re: [Full-disclosure] [OT] Obama said: American people understand that not everybody's been following the rules

2011-10-14 Thread Mike Hale
Except that they weren't obviously unarmed. Not only where they not obviously unarmed, they appeared to be armed. Look at the 4 minute mark. That sure as shit looks like an RPG. The crew thought the group was armed. Ergo, they were cleared to engage. This wasn't a war crime...and the

Re: [Full-disclosure] [OT] Obama said: American people understand that not everybody's been following the rules

2011-10-14 Thread xD 0x41
Hai! Nothing but, that guy makes it look like, a bad anything,wherver he goes.. lol. I suggest, dont say ANYTHING unless it is atleast ON TOPIC, be an adult, and stop being such a rude dude,or ppl will just ignore. Anyhow, no all jokes aside, please, be adult, and stop the abuse, or just plain

Re: [Full-disclosure] [OT] Obama said: American people understand that not everybody's been following the rules

2011-10-14 Thread xD 0x41
Go eat popcorn and stfu. f00,. On 15 October 2011 12:21, Christian Sciberras uuf6...@gmail.com wrote: You think I'm biting that? Skinny and under-age is just about everything you could come up with. Congrats for creativity. Just because two of you decided you found common grounds for

Re: [Full-disclosure] [OT] the nigger said: American people understand that not everybody's been following the rules

2011-10-14 Thread xD 0x41
If you want the racist card to stick to a word don't use it yourself when referring to members of your own ethnicitynot race..we are all of the human race..ethnicity. yes well buddy, it would be a much better world, if this was actually law :P I hate racism, and anyone who has anything

Re: [Full-disclosure] [OT] Obama said: American people understand that not everybody's been following the rules

2011-10-14 Thread Laurelai
On 10/14/2011 8:21 PM, Christian Sciberras wrote: You think I'm biting that? Skinny and under-age is just about everything you could come up with. Congrats for creativity. Just because two of you decided you found common grounds for insult doesn't mean you're

[Full-disclosure] [Full-flame-war] There used to be a security mailing list at this address.

2011-10-14 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
If you guys are going to continue your little flame war, would you at *least* trim the non-relevant parts of the mail you're replying to? And at least be *creative* in your flaming, m'kay? Oh, and quit top-posting. (And the person who wanted more pink bits - if you can't find free pr0n on the

Re: [Full-disclosure] [Full-flame-war] There used to be a security mailing list at this address.

2011-10-14 Thread Thor (Hammer of God)
Haven't we made it to the point where top posting is OK? I mean, it works from a Ped Xing standpoint, why not here? It is REALLY that bad? -Original Message- From: full-disclosure-boun...@lists.grok.org.uk [mailto:full-disclosure- boun...@lists.grok.org.uk] On Behalf Of

Re: [Full-disclosure] [Full-flame-war] There used to be a security mailing list at this address.

2011-10-14 Thread dave bl
On 15 October 2011 14:11, Thor (Hammer of God) t...@hammerofgod.com wrote: Haven't we made it to the point where top posting is OK?  I mean, it works from a Ped Xing standpoint, why not here?  It is REALLY that bad? I thought this was a security mailing list not an exercise in how not to do it