Re: [Full-disclosure] [Professional IT Security Providers - Exposed] QuietMove ( D - )

2008-01-02 Thread Andre Gironda
On Jan 1, 2008 9:51 PM, reepex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ok so they are nothing alike because ptp/hts actually teach you stuff while UPT was for jokes... so your post was stupid The joke's on you since you don't have the context. I am not a part of secreview but I realize following email

Re: [Full-disclosure] [Professional IT Security Providers - Exposed] QuietMove ( D - )

2008-01-02 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Tue, 01 Jan 2008 12:33:36 CST, reepex said: Is this list up to date? It makes it seem as if you are learning basic linux commands, sed, and basic perl. Also why are you reading operating system design and implementation when you do not know C? C is not a prerequisite for understanding

Re: [Full-disclosure] [Professional IT Security Providers - Exposed] QuietMove ( D - )

2008-01-02 Thread reepex
everyone who is not a kiddie knows rsnake is a joke, just like anyone else involved in his *.ackers group. If rsnake was to post to places like this instead of lamer 'hacker'/'security' magazines then he would be ridiculed off the list like pdp architect was. Instead I believe rsnake knows hes

Re: [Full-disclosure] [Professional IT Security Providers - Exposed] QuietMove ( D - )

2008-01-02 Thread reepex
if you noticed he was reading tanebaum's book about minix. If you would look at the book you would see he relies heavily on source code and actually has the code in the back of the book so that he can refer to it constantly. In other books i agree you do not have to know C, but for this book, if

Re: [Full-disclosure] [Professional IT Security Providers - Exposed] QuietMove ( D - )

2008-01-01 Thread Adam Muntner
Your review gets a d-. You can't add. You can't spell. Your skills appear to be limited to rudimentary use of a browser and linkedin.com. In combination with your undeserved and unearned sense of self importance, pretty pathetic. You spelled Marcin's last name wrong. Great use of

Re: [Full-disclosure] [Professional IT Security Providers - Exposed] QuietMove ( D - )

2008-01-01 Thread Marcin Wielgoszewski
Marcin Wielgoszewski here, the green consultant you mentioned but chose not to focus on. I'm not sure what you mean by green, but whatever. I have just finished my bachelor's degree, have done internships with some Fortune-100's and I am constantly doing research on my own. I also make an

Re: [Full-disclosure] [Professional IT Security Providers - Exposed] QuietMove ( D - )

2008-01-01 Thread Adam Muntner
Secreview, you might learn something by reading Marcin's blog. Adam Muntner Managing Partner QuietMove, Inc. Fax: 866-272-8194 http://www.quietmove.com Sent from my iPhone On Jan 1, 2008, at 11:57 AM, Marcin Wielgoszewski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marcin Wielgoszewski here, the green

Re: [Full-disclosure] [Professional IT Security Providers - Exposed] QuietMove ( D - )

2008-01-01 Thread reepex
On Jan 1, 2008 9:04 AM, Adam Muntner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hsve been pentesting since 98 and nearly nonstop since 2000. You cannot spell either and you have been a 'pentester' ... does this mean you ran nessus and other automated testing tools and call yourself a hacker? Sent from my

Re: [Full-disclosure] [Professional IT Security Providers - Exposed] QuietMove ( D - )

2008-01-01 Thread SilentRunner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Adam I appreciate that you have to defend your firm, but why are you giving the skiddie the satisfaction of even acknowledging his existence? Don't be fooled by the we, secreview is one person. A kid of maybe 15 sitting in his room looking for

Re: [Full-disclosure] [Professional IT Security Providers - Exposed] QuietMove ( D - )

2008-01-01 Thread reepex
You are worthless. http://www.tssci-security.com/bookshelf/ Is this list up to date? It makes it seem as if you are learning basic linux commands, sed, and basic perl. Also why are you reading operating system design and implementation when you do not know C? ( Seeing as C books are in your

Re: [Full-disclosure] [Professional IT Security Providers - Exposed] QuietMove ( D - )

2008-01-01 Thread veda
reepex wrote: On Jan 1, 2008 9:04 AM, Adam Muntner [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hsve been pentesting since 98 and nearly nonstop since 2000. You cannot spell either and you have been a 'pentester' ... does this mean you ran nessus and other automated testing

Re: [Full-disclosure] [Professional IT Security Providers - Exposed] QuietMove ( D - )

2008-01-01 Thread Jeffrey Denton
On Jan 1, 2008 7:33 PM, reepex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.tssci-security.com/bookshelf/ Is this list up to date? It makes it seem as if you are learning basic linux commands, sed, and basic perl. Also why are you reading operating system design and implementation when you do not

Re: [Full-disclosure] [Professional IT Security Providers - Exposed] QuietMove ( D - )

2008-01-01 Thread Marcin Wielgoszewski
You're right. I'm new and young and I'll be the first to admit it. We can't all be born security gurus, and I'm not trying to hide that, but me aside... what have you done besides hide behind your gmail account and troll FD? Thanks for pointing out those two pages, two pages out of 100's that

Re: [Full-disclosure] [Professional IT Security Providers - Exposed] QuietMove ( D - )

2008-01-01 Thread Adam Muntner
That would be an incorrect assumption. As I mentioned in the followup email - I types my response on my phones touchscreen, on a moving train. D- on your reading comprehension skills. F on your need to diss, anonymously. F- on if there is such a thing based on your suggestion of suicide for

Re: [Full-disclosure] [Professional IT Security Providers - Exposed] QuietMove ( D - )

2008-01-01 Thread reepex
your attitude sure has changed since your last post. Maybe you shouldn't sound so commanding on a real list next time and instead stick to your local 2600 meetings. On Jan 1, 2008 1:08 PM, Marcin Wielgoszewski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're right. I'm new and young and I'll be the first to

Re: [Full-disclosure] [Professional IT Security Providers - Exposed] QuietMove ( D - )

2008-01-01 Thread reepex
So what exactly do you do then? Please explain your skills to us since you conveinenly avoided my questions about your metasploit and auto hacking skills. On Jan 1, 2008 1:33 PM, Adam Muntner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That would be an incorrect assumption. As I mentioned in the followup email

Re: [Full-disclosure] [Professional IT Security Providers - Exposed] QuietMove ( D - )

2008-01-01 Thread Andre Gironda
On Dec 31, 2007 2:13 PM, secreview [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not sure about our readers, but to us at Secreview that hardly makes Adam an IT Security Expert. But wait, now we have a discrepancy... Pardon me, but who is this? secreview? Who is behind this email address? If you don't identify

Re: [Full-disclosure] [Professional IT Security Providers - Exposed] QuietMove ( D - )

2008-01-01 Thread reepex
On Dec 31, 2007 9:36 PM, Andre Gironda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sites such as PullThePlug, HackThisSite, etc all borrowed ideas from UPT, what exactly was borrowed? because I am pretty sure none of the hackthissite founders were around when this magazine was. There are few PCI ASV's or

Re: [Full-disclosure] [Professional IT Security Providers - Exposed] QuietMove ( D - )

2008-01-01 Thread SecReview
Readers (and haters) Just so we're clear, we've offered QuietMove a second shot at being reviewed. As a result we're going to remove our existing review and release a new review in short time. As usual, we'll do our best to make sure that the reviews are truthful and honest. To date,

Re: [Full-disclosure] [Professional IT Security Providers - Exposed] QuietMove ( D - )

2008-01-01 Thread reepex
On Jan 1, 2008 9:53 PM, Andre Gironda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wouldn't do a direct comparison, but I thought UPT was more about being funny than being seriously challenging. ok so they are nothing alike because ptp/hts actually teach you stuff while UPT was for jokes... so your post was

Re: [Full-disclosure] [Professional IT Security Providers - Exposed] QuietMove ( D - )

2008-01-01 Thread reepex
On Jan 1, 2008 9:35 PM, SecReview [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: QuietMove has not provided us with any information that contradicts anything that we've written in our origional post. We're still waiting for answers back from them. It is probably because they, like everyone else, do not care about

Re: [Full-disclosure] [Professional IT Security Providers - Exposed] QuietMove ( D - )

2008-01-01 Thread coderman
On Jan 1, 2008 8:51 PM, reepex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... So you list 5 tools they use then mention they modify a javascript library... So basically they use automated tools and are former web developers ... sound pretty hardcore this is sufficient skill for lucrative security audit /

[Full-disclosure] [Professional IT Security Providers - Exposed] QuietMove ( D - )

2007-12-31 Thread secreview
QuiteMove, located at http://www.quitemove.com is a small Professional IT Security Services Provider that offers Training services, Incident Response Services, Web Application Security Services and Penetration Testing Services. QuiteMove was started by Adam Munter in 2006 along with Jeffrey

Re: [Full-disclosure] [Professional IT Security Providers - Exposed] QuietMove ( D - )

2007-12-31 Thread Bob Bruen
Well, I guess this settles how you should be judged. Spelling is hard, especially when complaining about somebody else. Is it quitemove.com or quietmove.com? Not quite, eh? -- bob On Mon, 31 Dec 2007, secreview wrote: QuiteMove, located at http://www.quitemove.com is a small

Re: [Full-disclosure] [Professional IT Security Providers - Exposed]QuietMove ( D - )

2007-12-31 Thread Randal T. Rioux
snip hack snip snip QuiteMove http://www.quitemove.com QuietMove snip snip hack snip A tad more attention to details would be nice. Good thing you're not graded on spelling here. C-. Happy New Year, Randy ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it.