On Sun, 15 May 2005 01:39:23 EDT, Brian Anderson said:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, 14 May 2005 21:25:31 BST, James Tucker said:
There are no [X] (benign worms)
What like X = Aliens, conspiracies, deities?
Bring me an example of any one of those 4, and I'll believe in it.
The Boy
On Fri, May 13, 2005 at 04:47:35PM -0700, Eric Paynter wrote:
I think we're getting a little into an argument of semantics. The
defendant did in fact *intend* to sell the weapon, which was against the
law to do. He just wasn't aware of the law. Ignorance of the law does not
protect you.
This
-- Original message from "Eric Paynter" [EMAIL PROTECTED]: -- On Fri, May 13, 2005 3:49 pm, Benjamin Franz said: There are a many laws that turn on facts rather than intent. "Lack of criminal intent does not shield a citizen from the BATF. In United States v.
k k wrote:
I am an academic researcher. ...
One so well-versed in the area of which you enquire and with such a
relevant academic record that you hide behind a Hotmailaddress?
Yeah, right...
... I benefited a lot during my previous
interaction at the full disclosure list on a different
You actually know admins that write viruses to do their patching? Sorry,
but I think you're full of shit. If you're not, then these admins need
to be immediately given a boot in the balls, followed by an unemployment
benefit.
Why should the taxes of this country be used to pay this guy
As usual Nick I was enjoying the reading you created and agreeing with what
you were saying, except maybe the tone was a little harsh?...
But I was ultra impressed with the plural use of the word, 'miscreant'.
LMAO
--- You must really hang out in very limited circles. The only folk in
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On Sat, May 14, 2005 9:30 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Even if you *do* manage to code the worm correctly, all it takes is for
*one* person visiting your site to have plugged their laptop into the net,
and you're at least potentially screwed.
Hopefully as a minimum, one would code it to be
On Sat, 14 May 2005 10:50:18 PDT, Eric Paynter said:
On Sat, May 14, 2005 9:30 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Even if you *do* manage to code the worm correctly, all it takes is for
*one* person visiting your site to have plugged their laptop into the net,
and you're at least potentially
The idea of a begin worm is a nice idea but doesn't work in practice. Oh
I have known admins who let loose all sorts of automatic update process
that were little different from worms and they regretted it. These
people were far from middle school. and millions and billions sounds
something
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, 14 May 2005 21:25:31 BST, James Tucker said:
There are no [X] (benign worms)
What like X = Aliens, conspiracies, deities?
Bring me an example of any one of those 4, and I'll believe in it.
The Boy Scouts were in on the JFK plot.
There's a conspiracy for ya. ;)
--
On Sun, 15 May 2005, Brian Anderson wrote:
The Boy Scouts were in on the JFK plot.
No - they just happened to be standing at the corner when Kennedy passed.
They were *really* waiting for the motorcade to pass so they could cross
the street on their way to the Good Father Of The Little Boys
Hi,
I am an academic researcher. I benefited a lot during my previous
interaction at the full disclosure list on a different topic and now, I am
here to get some input on benign worms.
There is debate surrounding whether releasing benign worms such as Nachi or
Welcha, in general is ethical or
On Fri, 13 May 2005 11:13:03 CDT, k k said:
(Yes, even the best of us hit 'send' too soon sometimes ;)
There is debate surrounding whether releasing benign worms such as Nachi or
Welcha, in general is ethical or not.
Oh? Who has lined up on the it's a good idea side of the room?
I suspect
k k wrote:
I am an academic researcher. I benefited a lot during my previous
interaction at the full disclosure list on a different topic and now,
I am here to get some input on benign worms.
There is debate surrounding whether releasing benign worms such as
Nachi or Welcha, in general is
1. Do people do that? Or at least, have you considered it?
Well, obviously it's been done. You mentioned two examples. Both of them
caused significant network disruption in and of themselves.
2. If yes, under what conditions would you do that?
None. Not even on my own network and not even if
On Fri, 13 May 2005, k k wrote:
There is debate surrounding whether releasing benign worms such as Nachi or
Welcha,
First off, lets get something straight: Neither of your two examples was
in any way benign. Both of these cost carriers and their customers
*billions* of dollars. Many of us
On Fri, 13 May 2005 15:43:44 CDT, J.A. Terranson said:
On Fri, 13 May 2005, k k wrote:
There is debate surrounding whether releasing benign worms such as Nachi or
Welcha,
First off, lets get something straight: Neither of your two examples was
in any way benign. Both of these cost
On Fri, May 13, 2005 9:59 am, Michael Holstein said:
3. If not, what prevents you from doing that?
Any worm/virus, regardless of intent, is still illegal -- and I don't
think I can get a DSL line in jail.
Not true. Intent is *everything* as far a criminal activity is concerned.
Intent aside,
On Fri, 13 May 2005, Eric Paynter wrote:
On Fri, May 13, 2005 9:59 am, Michael Holstein said:
3. If not, what prevents you from doing that?
Any worm/virus, regardless of intent, is still illegal -- and I don't
think I can get a DSL line in jail.
Not true. Intent is *everything* as far a criminal
On Fri, May 13, 2005 3:49 pm, Benjamin Franz said:
There are a many laws that turn on facts rather than intent.
Lack of criminal intent does not shield a citizen from the BATF. In
United States v. Thomas, the defendant found a 16- inch-long gun while
horseback riding. Taking it to be an
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