Re: [Full-disclosure] Two bulletins from Microsoft on Patch Tuesday

2008-11-08 Thread n3td3v
There is no evidence of 0day in the wild for the upcoming patches and Microsoft have released no information to suggest so. On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 4:18 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2) There's a very high chance that at least some percent of the black-hat community is sitting on a 0-day exploit

Re: [Full-disclosure] Two bulletins from Microsoft on Patch Tuesday

2008-11-07 Thread James Matthews
. november 2008 07:34 To: full-disclosure@lists.grok.org.uk; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Two bulletins from Microsoft on Patch Tuesday -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 What scene... On Thu, 06 Nov 2008 20:06:47 -0500 n3td3v [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i've been

Re: [Full-disclosure] Two bulletins from Microsoft on Patch Tuesday

2008-11-07 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Fri, 07 Nov 2008 07:18:18 GMT, Col said: I don't think any hacker is going to bother spending 5 days looking for a needle in a haystack when he can reverse engineer specific files once the patch is released. I know very little of looking for pointers in DLLs but from what I've seen it

[Full-disclosure] Two bulletins from Microsoft on Patch Tuesday

2008-11-06 Thread n3td3v
On Thursday, Microsoft announced two security bulletins for Tuesday. The advance notice is intended as a heads up for IT departments before Patch Tuesday, the company's monthly patch day. One bulletin is considered critical, the most serious ranking offered by the software giant, while the other

Re: [Full-disclosure] Two bulletins from Microsoft on Patch Tuesday

2008-11-06 Thread waveroad waveroad
Shut the fuck up We're tired to hear your shit dude. Why don't you just keep on squatting your fucking mailing list with your friends ? You have no friends here, and you're not welcome, get the fuck out of here. ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it.

Re: [Full-disclosure] Two bulletins from Microsoft on Patch Tuesday

2008-11-06 Thread n3td3v
blackhats like you will always hate on me, so i just ignore the negative responses i get. ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/

Re: [Full-disclosure] Two bulletins from Microsoft on Patch Tuesday

2008-11-06 Thread Biz Marqee
Do you even understand why people dont like you? It is because you have all these crackpot ideas but no experience to back it up. All your ideas only make sense from a theoretical standpoint, but in practicality most will fail. Do you understand that or are you much of an ignorant person to even

Re: [Full-disclosure] Two bulletins from Microsoft on Patch Tuesday

2008-11-06 Thread Anders B Jansson
n3td3v wrote: blackhats like you will always hate on me, so i just ignore the negative responses i get. Whitehats hate you equally because you just create spam and don't post anything of actual value. You have your mailing list. Why can't you just stay there until you have anything of value

Re: [Full-disclosure] Two bulletins from Microsoft on Patch Tuesday

2008-11-06 Thread waveroad waveroad
You can be monitoring the scene since 20 years if you want to, it's not for that your point will be valuable. And actually it is not, also this is about logic. See you're wrong again. Get the fuck out of here. 2008/11/6, n3td3v [EMAIL PROTECTED]: i've been monitoring the scene since

Re: [Full-disclosure] Two bulletins from Microsoft on Patch Tuesday

2008-11-06 Thread offbitz
Dear n3td3v, I sincerely regret to inform you that if all you have done for the past 10 years is monitor the scene (i.e. trolling/spamming mailing lists and chatrooms with elementary ramblings) then you have no leg to stand on when somebody questions your experience. In fact, it is quite

Re: [Full-disclosure] Two bulletins from Microsoft on Patch Tuesday

2008-11-06 Thread n3td3v
so you don't think its logical that these 5 day heads up could be helping the bad guys out? right. i think the world's biggest hackers could do a lot of research in 5 days. but then again n3td3v isn't logical so i must be wrong. damn those drugs eh? i just asked what the realistic possibility was

Re: [Full-disclosure] Two bulletins from Microsoft on Patch Tuesday

2008-11-06 Thread Ureleet
thats 9 years u fucking moron. that could NOT have been funnier. most of us on this list have been WORKING in this industry for longer than that. u just sit and rant. take everyones advice, including mine. fucking leave. we dont care about u. microsoft is smarter than u, we are all smarter

Re: [Full-disclosure] Two bulletins from Microsoft on Patch Tuesday

2008-11-06 Thread Biz Marqee
I have watched movies for 10 years, does this make me an experienced director? No, because watching isn't doing and as such it is not experience. Now please address the issue of your illegal drug use, which demonstrates complete disregard for your governments laws. On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 12:06

Re: [Full-disclosure] Two bulletins from Microsoft on Patch Tuesday

2008-11-06 Thread Ureleet
first off, u arent going to get any1 2 change anything. so, lets get that out of the way right there. second of all, in order for u 2 prove ur point, id like 4 u to go to some research of how many exploits have come out during the 5 day period between vague-ass disclosure and patch publish. then

Re: [Full-disclosure] Two bulletins from Microsoft on Patch Tuesday

2008-11-06 Thread n3td3v
i'm sorry that you don't agree with my heads up theory, i stand by what i said however. i'm sure microsoft don't read full-disclosure anyway, so you're right i'm not going to change anything. by the way, i've noticed you haven't stopped stalking me yet, im a bit concerned about your health.

Re: [Full-disclosure] Two bulletins from Microsoft on Patch Tuesday

2008-11-06 Thread Biz Marqee
Acting like the child that he is, n3td3v continues to ignore questions posed to him. How can he be such an avid debater over the legality of things like metasploit, 0day auctions and similarly themed bullshit threads when he completely disregards drug laws? How do you intend to lobby people to

Re: [Full-disclosure] Two bulletins from Microsoft on Patch Tuesday

2008-11-06 Thread n3td3v
you seem like an hd moore/metasploit fan boy pissed off that i don't respect him or like his metasploit software. n3td3v doesn't respect people like the sheep do, i think for myself, have opinions about other white hats that may not be in support of them. get used to it bozo. On Fri, Nov 7, 2008

Re: [Full-disclosure] Two bulletins from Microsoft on Patch Tuesday

2008-11-06 Thread Biz Marqee
I could care less about metasploit, all it does is help the kiddies.. but that doesnt mean it should be illegal. Software is knowledge and knowledge should be free, but that is not the issue here. The issue is that you are a bullshitting drug abuser who's child like demeanor wont allow him to even

Re: [Full-disclosure] Two bulletins from Microsoft on Patch Tuesday

2008-11-06 Thread n3td3v
why should i respond to your off-topic personal jabs? all it would do is start a flame war and im not into that. im performing self control and restraint by not responding to your personal jabs, nobody on the list wants a flame war based on personal jabs, so im not going to feed it. im reading

Re: [Full-disclosure] Two bulletins from Microsoft on Patch Tuesday

2008-11-06 Thread Biz Marqee
Nobody on the list wants YOU so I don't see how you can justify what people want to see as your argument for not retaliating. Ill fuck you 'til you love me, faggot. On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 4:31 PM, n3td3v [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: why should i respond to your off-topic personal jabs? all it

Re: [Full-disclosure] Two bulletins from Microsoft on Patch Tuesday

2008-11-06 Thread n3td3v
haha, you agree with n3td3v on something! you're making a start at least young padawan. keep up the good work. On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 5:09 AM, Biz Marqee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I could care less about metasploit, all it does is help the kiddies. ___

Re: [Full-disclosure] Two bulletins from Microsoft on Patch Tuesday

2008-11-06 Thread vulcanius
Probably because there's noone on his mailing list despite his claim of 5000 subscribers. Seriously n3td3v, I'd love to hear you answer as to why you continue to troll the FD list with blatant nonsense while you have this amazing list of 5000 some odd subscribers who all want to hear what you have

Re: [Full-disclosure] Two bulletins from Microsoft on Patch Tuesday

2008-11-06 Thread Col
2008/11/6 n3td3v [EMAIL PROTECTED]: snip i'm not sure this is a good idea as it gives a heads up to hackers. you may think its not long but its actually 5 days for a hacker to figure out potentially a vulnerability in said area. maybe we should have a discussion about the pros and cons of

Re: [Full-disclosure] Two bulletins from Microsoft on Patch Tuesday

2008-11-06 Thread Elazar Broad
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 What scene... On Thu, 06 Nov 2008 20:06:47 -0500 n3td3v [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i've been monitoring the scene since 1999 so what do you mean no experience? i make that about 10 years experience if my math is correct. On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 12:48