Re: [Full-disclosure] Wachovia Bank website sends confidential information

2007-07-12 Thread Bob Toxen
Wachovia Bank's Web Security people did phone me late yesterday to thank me for raising the security issue. They also stated that they were investigating why my initial contacts with Wachovia did not result in an appropriate response. They said that they also were working with their legal people

Re: [Full-disclosure] Wachovia Bank website sends confidential information

2007-07-11 Thread Bob Toxen
On Tue, Jul 10, 2007 at 09:39:33PM -0400, Jim Popovitch wrote: On Tue, 2007-07-10 at 20:20 -0400, Bob Toxen wrote: VI. VENDOR RESPONSE The vendor (Wachovia Bank) was notified via their customer service phone number on June 25. We were transferred to web support. The person answering

Re: [Full-disclosure] Wachovia Bank website sends confidential information

2007-07-11 Thread J. Oquendo
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 21:39:33 EDT, Jim Popovitch said: 7 days? industry practice? Come on Bob I know you know that large corporations can't feed a cat in 7 days let alone make unscheduled website changes that fast. Change control approvals alone would include 14

Re: [Full-disclosure] Wachovia Bank website sends confidential information

2007-07-11 Thread kazaam
I got you right? The one doing just for fun researches is in duty to find the correct person and not the company, making big buisness, in providing easy access to this person? Yes you are obviously right ^^ J. Oquendo wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 21:39:33 EDT, Jim

Re: [Full-disclosure] Wachovia Bank website sends confidential information

2007-07-11 Thread Bob Bruen
While it is true that lots of folk pick on vendors for a few minutes of fame, the Wachovia case is slightly different. They do have an attitude problem and are technically challenged. The basis for this is a law enforcement conference about six months ago. During a pressentation a Wachovia

Re: [Full-disclosure] Wachovia Bank website sends confidential information

2007-07-11 Thread J. Oquendo
Bob Bruen wrote: While it is true that lots of folk pick on vendors for a few minutes of fame, the Wachovia case is slightly different. They do have an attitude problem and are technically challenged. The basis for this is a law enforcement conference about six months ago. During a

Re: [Full-disclosure] Wachovia Bank website sends confidential information

2007-07-11 Thread Security Guy
Or hey, if you're not getting anywhere with him, talk to this guy! http://www.belkcollege.uncc.edu/jpfoley/ Let me see: wachovia security cissp incident +network via Google This looks interesting: http://www.bryceporter.com/ I would have contacted someone on this level to put me in

Re: [Full-disclosure] Wachovia Bank website sends confidential information

2007-07-11 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Wed, 2007-07-11 at 12:03 -0400, Bob Bruen wrote: While it is true that lots of folk pick on vendors for a few minutes of fame, the Wachovia case is slightly different. They do have an attitude problem and are technically challenged. The basis for this is a law enforcement conference

Re: [Full-disclosure] Wachovia Bank website sends confidential information

2007-07-11 Thread Bob Bruen
Hi Jim, No, I did not declare the whole of Wachovia technically challenged based on the one incident at a security conference.. What I was pointing out is that the current problem of their failure to put up a secure web and their failure to respond to notification about has another data point

Re: [Full-disclosure] Wachovia Bank website sends confidential information

2007-07-11 Thread Steve Ragan
The link now redirects to an HTTPS page -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Toxen Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 8:20 PM To: full-disclosure@lists.grok.org.uk Subject: [Full-disclosure] Wachovia Bank website sends confidential information

Re: [Full-disclosure] Wachovia Bank website sends confidential information

2007-07-11 Thread Bob Toxen
On Wed, Jul 11, 2007 at 12:38:54PM -0400, Steve Ragan wrote: The link now redirects to an HTTPS page Thanks Steve. This proves the value of Full Disclosure. This seems to have changed within a few hours of my posting to Full Disclosure rather than in the several weeks after I first alerted it.

Re: [Full-disclosure] Wachovia Bank website sends confidential information

2007-07-11 Thread Peter Dawson
Reconfirming time stamp(s) !-- Vignette V6 Wed Jul 11 16:13:41 2007 -- their policy pages was updated On 7/11/07, Bob Toxen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jul 11, 2007 at 12:38:54PM -0400, Steve Ragan wrote: It has comments with time-stamps of late yesterday, after I disclosed on the

Re: [Full-disclosure] Wachovia Bank website sends confidential information

2007-07-10 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Tue, 2007-07-10 at 20:20 -0400, Bob Toxen wrote: VI. VENDOR RESPONSE The vendor (Wachovia Bank) was notified via their customer service phone number on June 25. We were transferred to web support. The person answering asked us to FAX the details to her and we did so, also on June 25.

Re: [Full-disclosure] Wachovia Bank website sends confidential information

2007-07-10 Thread Tremaine Lea
On 10-Jul-07, at 7:39 PM, Jim Popovitch wrote: On Tue, 2007-07-10 at 20:20 -0400, Bob Toxen wrote: VI. VENDOR RESPONSE The vendor (Wachovia Bank) was notified via their customer service phone number on June 25. We were transferred to web support. The person answering asked us to FAX the

Re: [Full-disclosure] Wachovia Bank website sends confidential information

2007-07-10 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 21:39:33 EDT, Jim Popovitch said: 7 days? industry practice? Come on Bob I know you know that large corporations can't feed a cat in 7 days let alone make unscheduled website changes that fast. Change control approvals alone would include 14 or more days in most