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2003-06-12 Thread List Bot
On 10 Jun 2003 at 19:14:37 northern snowfall wrote: It's just the way it presented.. using hacker like nigger or kike spic etc. Unfortunately, this is what the media has presented to our new generations. Movies, television, etc incorporate the term hacker with malicious sneaky computer

Re: [Full-Disclosure] USDOJ BRAINWASHING TECHNIQUES

2003-06-11 Thread Peter van den Heuvel
Not the fact that somehow that web page is trying to promote any particular opinion on hacking into is disturbing to me. What did raise my eyebrows was the fact that it bluntly promoted why don't you spy on your friends for us and turn in every suspect; the governmental fear and obedience

[Full-Disclosure] USDOJ BRAINWASHING TECHNIQUES

2003-06-10 Thread morning_wood
USDOJ BRAINWASHING TECHNIQUES need I say more? http://www.usdoj.gov/kidspage/do-dont/net2b.htm morning_wood http://nothackers.org http://exploitlabs.com ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter:

RE: [Full-Disclosure] USDOJ BRAINWASHING TECHNIQUES

2003-06-10 Thread David Vincent
of action you see in all these sort of morality tests. -d -Original Message- From: morning_wood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: June 10, 2003 11:09 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 0day Subject: [Full-Disclosure] USDOJ BRAINWASHING TECHNIQUES USDOJ BRAINWASHING TECHNIQUES need I say more

Re: [Full-Disclosure] USDOJ BRAINWASHING TECHNIQUES

2003-06-10 Thread northern snowfall
The fact is it we need to take measures that help children understand hacking. This is hardly an issue of brain- washing. It is an issue of survival as a society. The more we help children understand about malicious hacking, the less likely they will perform these acts later in life. That only

Re: [Full-Disclosure] USDOJ BRAINWASHING TECHNIQUES

2003-06-10 Thread morning_wood
It's just the way it presented.. using hacker like nigger or kike spic etc. I hack my front door to my house when my one hand is holding something, figuring out how to overcome the security of the doorknob, using not a hand or finger to open it. Who determines exactly what constitutes hacking?

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2003-06-10 Thread northern snowfall
It's just the way it presented.. using hacker like nigger or kike spic etc. Unfortunately, this is what the media has presented to our new generations. Movies, television, etc incorporate the term hacker with malicious sneaky computer cracking. The government website has to talk to children in

Re: [Full-Disclosure] USDOJ BRAINWASHING TECHNIQUES

2003-06-10 Thread KF
The fact is it we need to take measures that help children understand hacking. This is hardly an issue of brain- washing. It is an issue of survival as a society. The more we help children understand about malicious hacking, the less likely they will perform these acts later in life. That only

Re: [Full-Disclosure] USDOJ BRAINWASHING TECHNIQUES

2003-06-10 Thread northern snowfall
Don't get me wrong...I will agree that educating children to not hack *could* cut down on attacks however it does nothing to stop the vulnerabilities that exist in soo many products. Time would be better spent educating the kids about how vulnerabilities are caused and what they could do

Re: [Full-Disclosure] USDOJ BRAINWASHING TECHNIQUES

2003-06-10 Thread Darren Reed
In some mail from KF, sie said: The fact is it we need to take measures that help children understand hacking. This is hardly an issue of brain- washing. It is an issue of survival as a society. The more we help children understand about malicious hacking, the less likely they will