Re: [funsec] What was that about hubris?

2009-09-30 Thread chris
--- On Tue, 9/29/09, Peter Evans pe...@ixp.jp wrote:     Totally! I approve! Having recently watched the Smug Storm episode of South Park with my kids and explained to them the incredible evil of smugness, my nine-year-old daughter now thumbs-ups every hybrid she sees (good fer you!) and

Re: [funsec] McAfee really DOES write new Malware! Wholey Moley!

2009-09-30 Thread Drsolly
Stroking a long-haired cat works well, but only from the seated position. On Tue, 29 Sep 2009, Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon Hannah wrote: Date sent:Tue, 29 Sep 2009 15:20:28 -0700 From: Buhrmaster, Gary g...@slac.stanford.edu But first, let me grow out

[funsec] New Trojan re-writes online bank statements to cover fraud

2009-09-30 Thread Juha-Matti Laurio
New malware being used by cybercrooks does more than let hackers loot a bank account; it hides evidence of a victim’s dwindling balance by rewriting online bank statements on the fly, according to a new report. The sophisticated hack uses a Trojan horse program installed on the victim’s

Re: [funsec] New Trojan re-writes online bank statements to cover fraud

2009-09-30 Thread Drsolly
Stealth fraud. On Wed, 30 Sep 2009, Juha-Matti Laurio wrote: New malware being used by cybercrooks does more than let hackers loot a bank account; it hides evidence of a victim’s dwindling balance by rewriting online bank statements on the fly, according to a new report. The

[funsec] Microsoft Essentials...any evaluation?

2009-09-30 Thread RandallM
Microsoft Security Essentials provides real-time protection for your home PC that guards against viruses, spyware, and other malicious software. http://www.microsoft.com/security_essentials/?mkt=en-us -- been great, thanks a.k.a System ___ Fun and

Re: [funsec] Microsoft Essentials...any evaluation?

2009-09-30 Thread Alex Eckelberry
PC Mag just did a review http://tinyurl.com/yc85oht I've blogged my thoughts: http://tinyurl.com/yby92jl Alex Alex Eckelberry, CEO Sunbelt Software 33 N. Garden Avenue, Clearwater, FL 33755 p: 727-562-0101 x220 e: a...@sunbeltsoftware.com MSN: alex...@hotmail.com w:

Re: [funsec] No AV? Shock, horror!

2009-09-30 Thread Rich Kulawiec
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 10:39:36PM -0400, Michael Collins wrote: Well, I've checked off that I bought a firewall box, so I *must* be scure), and because it does give developers a way out. I agree; and I'll point out that this also provides air cover for management when subsequent incidents

Re: [funsec] What was that about hubris?

2009-09-30 Thread Paul M. Moriarty
Simply put, a Mac is a UNIX box with a great GUI that runs most commercial, off-the-shelf software that people actually want. For me, that's worth paying a premium. Yeah, yeah, nitpick about Mach, blah, blah, blah... Are you at risk doing stupid things with a Mac? Sure, just like you're

Re: [funsec] McAfee really DOES write new Malware! Wholey Moley!

2009-09-30 Thread Blanchard_Michael
To confront the enemy, it's necessary to know the enemy -- and the enemy's strategies and tactics. Refusing to learn these guarantees defeat. ---Rsk True, but to study the enemy you must study HIS tactics and HIS maneuvers. Not create brand new ones and study them. You must study existing

Re: [funsec] What was that about hubris?

2009-09-30 Thread Alex Eckelberry
Macs rock. It's hard to say bad things about them, except for the fact that Apple charges outrageous amounts of money and there really isn't good support for left-mouse clicking (something I'm addicted to). But we have 2 at the house along with an assortment of Windows boxes, and they're really

Re: [funsec] New Trojan re-writes online bank statements to cover fraud

2009-09-30 Thread RandallM
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 8:33 AM, funsec-requ...@linuxbox.org wrote: -- Message: 8 Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:53:06 +0300 (EEST) From: Juha-Matti Laurio juha-matti.lau...@netti.fi Subject: [funsec] New Trojan re-writes online bank statements to cover        fraud

[funsec] Another risk of social networking - insurance companies

2009-09-30 Thread Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon Hannah
http://www.vancouversun.com/technology/ICBC+uses+Facebook+photos+against+ woman+seeking+damages/2048122/story.html http://www.timescolonist.com/ICBC+uses+Facebook+refute+injury+claims/204962 2/story.html http://www.canada.com/woman+busted+Facebook+site/2050125/story.html In this case, it would

Re: [funsec] McAfee really DOES write new Malware! Wholey Moley!

2009-09-30 Thread Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon Hannah
Date sent: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 13:14:13 +0100 (BST) From: Drsolly drsol...@drsolly.com Stroking a long-haired cat works well, but only from the seated position. Always mount a scratch cat. (But beware of scratches.) == (quote inserted randomly

[funsec] Secure storage

2009-09-30 Thread Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon Hannah
OK, they've figured out how to store and transmit data in a very dense fashion: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8281544.stm But: Reading out the data on a light pulse is limited by the same electronics that generate them in current systems, so a decompressing scheme would need to be

Re: [funsec] What was that about hubris?

2009-09-30 Thread chris
--- On Wed, 9/30/09, Paul M. Moriarty p...@igtc.com wrote: Simply put, a Mac is a UNIX box with a great GUI that runs most commercial, off-the-shelf software that people actually want.  For me, that's worth paying a premium. Yeah, yeah, nitpick about Mach, blah, blah, blah... Are you at

Re: [funsec] What was that about hubris?

2009-09-30 Thread charlie derr
Alex Eckelberry wrote: Macs rock. It's hard to say bad things about them, snippage Maybe so, but I love a challenge, so please let me try :-] DRM is the scourge of the earth and it's so embedded into the OS (with all kinds of shady marketing to try to make itunes as ubiquitous as possible)

Re: [funsec] New Trojan re-writes online bank statements to cover fraud

2009-09-30 Thread Paul Ferguson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 10:49 AM, RandallM randa...@fidmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 8:33 AM, funsec-requ...@linuxbox.org wrote: New malware being used by cybercrooks does more than let hackers loot a bank account; it hides

[funsec] mac is not unix [Re: What was that about hubris?]

2009-09-30 Thread Gadi Evron
Peter Evans wrote: On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 09:49:40AM -0700, Paul M. Moriarty wrote: Simply put, a Mac is a UNIX box with a great GUI that runs most commercial, off-the-shelf software that people actually want. For me, that's worth paying a premium. Pause to count number of good

Re: [funsec] New Trojan re-writes online bank statements to cover fraud

2009-09-30 Thread RandallM
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 2:49 PM, Paul Ferguson fergdawgs...@gmail.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 10:49 AM, RandallM randa...@fidmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 8:33 AM,  funsec-requ...@linuxbox.org wrote: New malware being used

Re: [funsec] What was that about hubris?

2009-09-30 Thread David Lodge
On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:49:40 +0100, Paul M. Moriarty p...@igtc.com wrote: Simply put, a Mac is a UNIX box with a great GUI that runs most commercial, off-the-shelf software that people actually want. For me, that's worth paying a premium. Great GUI? So explain the stuck in the 80s concept of

Re: [funsec] What was that about hubris?

2009-09-30 Thread Paul M. Moriarty
I used Gnome as my primary desktop for years. The term lipstick on a pig springs to mind. When I finally decided I didn't want to be a computer hobbyist any more, i.e., constantly tinkering to get my machine to work just so, that's when I bought a Mac. On Sep 30, 2009, at 1:44 PM, David

Re: [funsec] mac is not unix [Re: What was that about hubris?]

2009-09-30 Thread Chris Boyd
On Sep 30, 2009, at 2:54 PM, Gadi Evron wrote: Well actually, I believed that as well. But as it was explained to me by a very nice guy, an operating system is built of three components. The core, the GUI and the command interface. Of all these, only the last is Unix-based. The myth

Re: [funsec] Secure storage

2009-09-30 Thread Gregory Hicks
From: Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon Hannah rmsl...@shaw.ca Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 11:23:50 -0800 OK, they've figured out how to store and transmit data in a very dense fashion: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8281544.stm But: Reading out the data on a light pulse is

[funsec] Smug

2009-09-30 Thread Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon Hannah
Date sent: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 11:41:50 -0700 (PDT) From: ch...@blask.org There isn't anything wrong with a Mac other than the smug http://zigvid.com/video_player.php?p=Nrvp=4v=836 or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNMNQZFIyeI == (quote inserted

Re: [funsec] What was that about hubris?

2009-09-30 Thread chris
--- On Wed, 9/30/09, charlie derr cd...@simons-rock.edu wrote: Alex Eckelberry wrote: Macs rock.  It's hard to say bad things about them, Oh, I dunno. Let me try a few: DRM is the scourge of the earth and it's so embedded into You touched right at the core of my dissatisfaction. [ahem]

Re: [funsec] McAfee really DOES write new Malware! Wholey Moley!

2009-09-30 Thread Rich Kulawiec
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 01:18:15PM -0400, blanchard_mich...@emc.com wrote: True, but to study the enemy you must study HIS tactics and HIS maneuvers. Not create brand new ones and study them. You must study existing malware, pull it apart, debug it, decompile it, see what makes it tick.