[funsec] Sandy Hook

2012-12-14 Thread Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon & Hannah
OK, tell me that this does not indicate that the US *does* need gun control. Tell me that this tragedy could have been avoided if only all the 8-year-olds had been armed. I dare you. == (quote inserted randomly by Pegasus Mailer) rsl...@vcn.bc.ca sl...@victoria.tc.ca

Re: [funsec] Sandy Hook

2012-12-14 Thread Marc
Ok - I'll take that dare - emotion runs high at a time like this (I live in CT): Let's not blame inanimate objects for the actions of people, or vilify any particular country over the acts of an individual: http://www.ctnow.com/sns-rt-us-china-stabbingsbre8bd065-20121213,0,5848749.s tory BEIJING

Re: [funsec] Sandy Hook

2012-12-14 Thread Blanchard, Michael (InfoSec)
Gun control would not have prevented this, not at all, not one tiddly bit a criminal would have found a way could have easily parked a truck full of explosives near the school too I'll bet it could have been lessened if some teachers were allowed to carry though, yes. Michael P.

Re: [funsec] Sandy Hook

2012-12-14 Thread Kyle Creyts
I suppose it depends on how much they play video games... On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 11:02 AM, Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon & Hannah wrote: > OK, tell me that this does not indicate that the US *does* need gun > control. Tell > me that this tragedy could have been avoided if only all the 8-

Re: [funsec] Sandy Hook

2012-12-14 Thread Kyle Creyts
Er, _violent_ video games. On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 11:40 AM, Kyle Creyts wrote: > I suppose it depends on how much they play video games... > > > On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 11:02 AM, Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon & > Hannah wrote: > >> OK, tell me that this does not indicate that the US *doe

Re: [funsec] Sandy Hook

2012-12-14 Thread Blanchard, Michael (InfoSec)
Also, why was this crazy son of a bitch allowed to enter the school? Why were the doors not locked to prevent entry from the outside? If gun control worked, the shooting in the UK that occurred a couple years back would never have happened... I don't remember the specifics, but he's the SOB th

Re: [funsec] Sandy Hook

2012-12-14 Thread Marc
Initial reports are that he had a child in the school - he was allowed (buzzed) in. He also killed his parents in NJ prior to driving to CT according to the initial reports. >-Original Message- >From: Blanchard, Michael (InfoSec) [mailto:michael.blanch...@emc.com] >Sent: Friday, December

Re: [funsec] Sandy Hook

2012-12-14 Thread Dan White
On 12/14/12 19:36 +, Blanchard, Michael (InfoSec) wrote: Gun control would not have prevented this, not at all, not one tiddly bit a criminal would have found a way could have easily parked a truck full of explosives near the school too I'll bet it could have been lessened if so

Re: [funsec] Sandy Hook

2012-12-14 Thread Blanchard, Michael (InfoSec)
Dan, Although if that guy wanted a gun to shoot people, even if there werent' any in the US, he would have found an illegal one to do so... Everything else I agree with you and you are absolutely 100% correct my friend! :-) Mike B Michael P. Blanchard Senior Security Engineer, CISSP, GCIH, C

Re: [funsec] Sandy Hook

2012-12-14 Thread Blanchard, Michael (InfoSec)
Yah, I just read that he killed a family member at home, and that his mom was the Kindergarten teacher... and the crazy SOB decided to take out everyone in the classroom He was probably just buzzed right in without anyone thinking twice about it I can just imagine what the person that

Re: [funsec] Sandy Hook

2012-12-14 Thread Rich Kulawiec
I'm not normally the voice of reason/calm, but I'd like to suggest that perhaps we should table this debate until, at least, the bleeding stops. ---rsk ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funs

Re: [funsec] Sandy Hook

2012-12-14 Thread Blanchard, Michael (InfoSec)
Agreed Michael P. Blanchard Senior Security Engineer, CISSP, GCIH, CCSA-NGX, MCSE Cyber Security Services EMC ² Corporation 32 Coslin Drive Southboro, MA 01772 -Original Message- From: funsec-boun...@linuxbox.org [mailto:funsec-boun...@linuxbox.org] On Behalf Of Rich Kulawiec Sent:

Re: [funsec] Sandy Hook

2012-12-14 Thread Dan White
On 12/14/2012 14:57, Dan White wrote: That's not exactly fair. If he didn't have a gun, he would have been unlikely to kill very many people. If he didn't have a gun, but the school had an armed security guard, there probably would have been a much different outcome. Something as simple as locki

Re: [funsec] Sandy Hook

2012-12-14 Thread Kenneth Bechtel
Dan White wrote: >>On 12/14/2012 14:57, Dan White wrote: >>> >>> That's not exactly fair. If he didn't have a gun, he would have been >>> unlikely to kill very many people. If he didn't have a gun, but the >>> school had an armed security guard, there probably would have been a >>> much differe

Re: [funsec] Sandy Hook

2012-12-14 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Dan White wrote: >> On 12/14/2012 14:57, Dan White wrote: >>> >>> > > It may be a bit easier for me in Oklahoma to find the crazy people, since > a law allowing citizens to openly carry handguns has recently gone into > effect. I can say, without hesitation, th

Re: [funsec] Sandy Hook

2012-12-14 Thread Dan White
On 12/14/12 17:18 -0500, Kenneth Bechtel wrote: Dan White wrote: On 12/14/2012 14:57, Dan White wrote: That's not exactly fair. If he didn't have a gun, he would have been unlikely to kill very many people. If he didn't have a gun, but the school had an armed security guard, there probably wo