Re: FW - some hard questions about a Basic Income 1 - Tom

1998-02-20 Thread Colin Stark
At 03:34 PM 2/20/98 -0500, Thomas Lunde wrote: >Tom Walker answered: > >If I can try and paraphrase your answer, it would be that we should change because "a wage system is no longer appropriate to the way that a modern economy works." And because of this, the cost of providing a worker is borne

Re FW - some hard questions about a Basic Income -Eva

1998-02-20 Thread Durant
Thomas Lunde: > I f I can paraphrase your answer Eva, I hear you saying that if there is = > enough to give, that in itself should be the reason to give. > > How would you answer the current world paradigm that "you have to work = > for what have"? > > There is overproduction and more workers

Re: FW - some hard questions about a Basic Income 1 - Tom

1998-02-20 Thread Franklin Wayne Poley
On Fri, 20 Feb 1998, Colin Stark wrote: > At 03:34 PM 2/20/98 -0500, Thomas Lunde wrote: > >Tom Walker answered: > > > >If I can try and paraphrase your answer, it would be that we should change > because "a wage system is no longer appropriate to the way that a modern > economy works." And beca

Re: FW - some hard questions about a Basic Income 1 - Tom

1998-02-20 Thread Arthur Cordell
One practical reason for a basic income. Maintain effective demand in the economy. Maintain purchasing power. Going to be hard to buy all that output without access to purchasing power. arthur cordell On Fri, 20 Feb 1998, Colin Stark wrote: > At 03:34 PM 2/20/98 -0500, Thomas Lunde wrote:

Re: FW - some hard questions about Basic Income -1

1998-02-20 Thread pete
Jim Dator <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Separating "work" entirely from access to goods and services, and >permitting/enabling people to live meaningful, satisfied lives without >"working" seems one of the biggest challenges of the present, and >foreseable future. Trying to create more jobs is fu

Re: FW - some hard questions about a Basic Income 1 - Tom

1998-02-20 Thread Thomas Lunde
Tom Walker answered:   I'd have a look at John Maurice Clark's writing on labour as an overheadcost (in his _Studies in the Economics of Overhead Costs_). Thejustification is that a wage system is no longer appropriate to the way thata modern economy works. The wage system is a form of contr

Re: Fw - Some hard questions about a Basic Income 1 -Brad

1998-02-20 Thread Thomas Lunde
Brad McCormick answered:   Hasn't our society already answered this question for all thosepersons who "come into" an annual income by accident ofbirth rather than their accountable personal efforts?  (This is obvious,but surely not irrelevant.)\brad mccormick   Thomas   If I can paraphrase

Re FW - some hard questions about a Basic Income -Eva

1998-02-20 Thread Thomas Lunde
Eva Durant answered:   I thought this was easy. If there is enough to give toeverybody, than you have to justify why youdon't. (I don't think you can.)Eva   Thomas   I f I can paraphrase your answer Eva, I hear you saying that if there is enough to give, that in itself should be the reason t

Re: FW - some hard questions about a Basic Income 1 - Tom

1998-02-20 Thread Jim Dator
The last series of interchanges have been the main reason I joined (and have remained lurking) on Futurework. I just don't see that there are now enough needed jobs at sufficiently high wages to give everyone (at least in the post-industrial world) a living income. Many, perhaps most, people are

FWork - Concealed Unemployment ?

1998-02-20 Thread D S Byrne
In Europe figures like Bauman and Offe are arguing that the contemporary form of capitalist industrialization has rendered a large part of the potentially employable population surplus, even as a reserve army of labour. When confronted with the effective reality of full employment in the US they a

Re: FW - Some hard questions about a Basic Income 1

1998-02-20 Thread Brad McCormick, Ed.D.
Thomas Lunde wrote: > > Hi FWer's: > > Some of my recent reading has asked me to consider some serious > questions, questions which need to be discussed and critiqued. I > will pose some of these questions and see what kind of responses the > questions evoke. For example: > > Given that the c