Re: (ed & keith) Marx, Keynes and Ancestors)

1999-07-27 Thread Keith Hudson
Ray, Thanks for your latest. Please forgive me if I don't reply in detail -- I think we both know where we stand on a number of issues and we're unlikely to persuade each other. But you mention something at the end which has intrigued me enormously for some years -- though I suspect that I will

Re: Marx, Keynes and Ancestors -- Free Trade vs. Culture

1999-07-27 Thread Christoph Reuss
On Sat, 24 Jul 1999, Keith Hudson wrote: > For better or for worse, we recreate society much as it was before whenever > we have passed through technological/economic change. OK, we might well > lose picturesque customs and metaphors (such as 7 or 70 different names of > snow -- and it's important

RE: FW: Welcome to the Future! (gas prices)

1999-07-27 Thread Christoph Reuss
On Tue, 27 Jul 1999, Doug Schaff wrote: > I do know that when I was working in Saudi > Arabia 16 years ago, the cost of getting a barrel of oil from the ground to > the super-tanker loading platforms at Ros Tanora - where the per barrel > price is paid - was $.25 US. TWENTY-FIVE CENTS - to pr

Re: Marx, Keynes and Ancestors ed & keith

1999-07-27 Thread Ed Weick
Ray, Once again, I'm overwhelmed, so I'll reply with just a few short comments. >Our people have very long memories. Life seems to >mean more to us than most since we don't forgive and >forget. We believe that theft of children, land, mineral >rights, religion and opportunities are not forgive

Re: Marx, Keynes and Ancestors ed & keith

1999-07-27 Thread Ray E. Harrell
First: Ed Weick wrote: > Ray, > > I do accept your point, but I was not concerned with the arts when I used > the term 'romanticize'. I simply meant that one must avoid portraying > aboriginal Americans, or any people, as having a special wisdom or > nobility -- as being "the noble savage". Th

Re: (REH) Marx, Keynes and Ancestors second of II

1999-07-27 Thread Keith Hudson
Ray, At 03:18 27/07/99 -0400, you wrote: >This is a long document. If you are not up for it, >then accept my apologies and skip it. REH As you say, your message a long document and I don't understand most of it so I must confine myself to one or two brief points. >Keith, what I hear you sayi

FW Basic Income at SASE (fwd)

1999-07-27 Thread S. Lerner
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 16:54:28 -0400 From: Karl Widerquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Organization: Jerome Levy Economics Institute This just in from Philippe Van Parijs. It's his account of the SASE conference for the next BEIN newsletter which will go out to every BEIN member in a month or two: Madi

Re: Marx, Keynes and Ancestors second of II

1999-07-27 Thread Thomas Lunde
Thomas: I will be cruel. Without experience there is not understanding. Without feeling there is no wisdom. Western man objectivies everything and very little touchs him. People study religion, they do not practise religion. People study anthropology, they do not sit in the woods and feel the

Re: Marx, Keynes and Ancestors

1999-07-27 Thread Thomas Lunde
-- -- >From: "Ed Weick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "Thomas Lunde" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Keith Hudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: Marx, Keynes and Ancestors >Date: Mon, Jul 26, 1999, 10:17 PM > > Just a couple of points on Thomas Lunde's response to Keith Hudson: Point > one is t

Re: Marx, Keynes and Ancestors I of II

1999-07-27 Thread Ed Weick
> >Your comments about romantic are confusing >to me as an artist. Romanticism has a highly specific >meaning to me. Emerson for example was a romantic, >does that mean that his observations are untrue or >untrustworthy? The root of the word in Art goes back >to the Greek duality of Dionysu

Re: Marx, Keynes and Ancestors second of II

1999-07-27 Thread Ray E. Harrell
This is a long document. If you are not up for it, then accept my apologies and skip it. REH Well Ed and Keith, if I don't answer these things then people believe they are true. And there is a lot of just plain old economic paternalism in your post. Consider how there is very little systemat