Re: [fw-general] grade zend framework and compared to Symfony and ASP.NET MVC

2009-09-22 Thread neobeacon
I'm a student and I'm really new for Zend Framework.Yes,PHP and Zend is little bit behind than some other languages and Frameworks.But they are always easy to learn and have appropriate power they want and especially clean.Zend also open source,If you have any idea how would be this in future,I th

Re: [fw-general] grade zend framework and compared to Symfony and ASP.NET MVC

2009-09-22 Thread Cameron
You seem to be overlooking the entire concept behind Zend. Many frameworks are designed for people who want their hands held through the application building process, Zend is designed for professional developers who know what they are doing and all they want are a few reliable and standardized tool

Re: [fw-general] grade zend framework and compared to Symfony and ASP.NET MVC

2009-09-22 Thread David Mintz
Yeah but ZF has the most incredibly patient, tolerant, indulgent, forgiving community of users -- perhaps too much so! Why do I keep reading these threads? Because I am looking for a good flamewar, but it's so hard to bait these equanimous ZFers that none is forthcoming. It's getting really boring.

Re: [fw-general] grade zend framework and compared to Symfony and ASP.NET MVC

2009-09-22 Thread Pádraic Brady
re. Pádraic Brady http://blog.astrumfutura.com http://www.survivethedeepend.com OpenID Europe Foundation Irish Representative From: aoohralex To: fw-general@lists.zend.com Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 7:30:49 PM Subject: [fw-general] grade zend framework and compared to

Re: [fw-general] grade zend framework and compared to Symfony and ASP.NET MVC

2009-09-22 Thread Daniel Latter
*I can make basic things in ZF – connect to database, queries insert/update/delete, basic zend forms, authorization, use jquery and layout in zend, controllers, views.* Sounds good if you can do all that and you say you are only at grade 1, says something about ZF to me. Thanks Daniel Latter 20

Re: [fw-general] grade zend framework and compared to Symfony and ASP.NET MVC

2009-09-22 Thread Diego Potapczuk
You made some good points, i agree on some, but, isnt Symfony a PHP Framework? ::: Diego Potapczuk »» NEAD - Núcleo de Educação a Distância »» SENAI-BA »» Tel: (71) 3287-8343 / (71) 9144-3062 »» http://www.diegoliveira.com.br On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 3:30 PM, aoohralex wrote: > > Sry for my

Re: [fw-general] grade zend framework and compared to Symfony and ASP.NET MVC

2009-09-22 Thread Alexander Steshenko
Zend Framework provides flexibility. That's the point. You're probably not good enough to understand that. So I think it's one of the moments when you need to go somewhere else and learn something new. On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 10:30 PM, aoohralex wrote: > > Sry for my English – it isn't my nationa

Re: [fw-general] grade zend framework and compared to Symfony and ASP.NET MVC

2009-09-22 Thread Jurian Sluiman
Uuhm, you don't have to use the framework. There are many choices besides ZF you're not using either. So why don't you leave the ZF where it is and stop using it? You're not buying a car you don't like, are you? Please stop spamming the list with your nonsense. -- Jurian Sluiman Soflomo.com Op

[fw-general] grade zend framework and compared to Symfony and ASP.NET MVC

2009-09-22 Thread aoohralex
Sry for my English – it isn't my national language. I have started learn ZF because I wanted to learn something new. If we have range 0 – 10. My knowledge ZF is 1 – I can make basic things in ZF – connect to database, queries insert/update/delete, basic zend forms, authorization, use jquery and l