Re: Mac keyboards (was: Shift-apple-cmd-power key combo?)

2005-01-05 Thread Luis Sequeira
And don't get me started on the following issue: the popular shortcuts in programs (Photoshop, for example) are activated: - by Ctrl (Ctrl-S) on Windows. Ctrl is the leftmost key on most PC keyboards. - by Command (Command-S) on Mac. Command is the key just left to the spacebar on Apple keyboards.

Mac keyboards (was: Shift-apple-cmd-power key combo?)

2005-01-04 Thread Marcin Wichary
You may have the keys mixed up. The Apple key is the Command key. I believe Apple should be at fault here. On PCs every key had one designation and it was perfectly clear which is which. On my PowerBook G4, UK edition: - the ctrl key is Ctrl or ^ (not labeled) - the alt key is Alt or the

Re: Mac keyboards (was: Shift-apple-cmd-power key combo?)

2005-01-04 Thread Dennis B. Swaney
At 9:16 AM +0100 1/4/05, Marcin Wichary wrote: You may have the keys mixed up. The Apple key is the Command key. I believe Apple should be at fault here. On PCs every key had one designation and it was perfectly clear which is which. On my PowerBook G4, UK edition: - the ctrl key is Ctrl or ^

Re: Mac keyboards (was: Shift-apple-cmd-power key combo?)

2005-01-04 Thread Pauline Turtle-Bear Guillermo
On Jan 4, 2005, at 8:03 AM, Dennis B. Swaney wrote: And my personal favourite is the escape key, which is Esc, but also has a symbol (a circle with an arrow pointing out). This symbol is not present on my keyboard, but I found it (and only it) in one of the (older) programs, and its also shown

Re: Mac keyboards (was: Shift-apple-cmd-power key combo?)

2005-01-04 Thread Amber
On 1/4/05 12:16 AM, Marcin Wichary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You may have the keys mixed up. The Apple key is the Command key. I believe Apple should be at fault here. On PCs every key had one designation and it was perfectly clear which is which. Actually, I think Apple's keys are very

Re: Mac keyboards (was: Shift-apple-cmd-power key combo?)

2005-01-04 Thread Clark Martin
At 7:03 AM -0800 1/4/05, Dennis B. Swaney wrote: History Lesson: Originally, what is now the left Command key was called the Open-Apple key on the Apple II keyboards. The right Command key was called the Closed-Apple key and the apple was a solid one. Both of these modifier keys did different

Re: Mac keyboards (was: Shift-apple-cmd-power key combo?)

2005-01-04 Thread Marcin Wichary
In the Finder go to the Help menu and type in 'Symbols for special keys' and go to that help document to see all the symbols for keys. In my field (interaction design) there's a saying that if something needs a help screen, it's badly designed in the first place. I don't have many problems with

Re: Mac keyboards (was: Shift-apple-cmd-power key combo?)

2005-01-04 Thread Marcin Wichary
Actually, I think Apple's keys are very clearly marked and easy to identify. I simply wasn't paying attention and made an error when I typed them into my note. I meant to type in the option key but instead typed in Apple and Cmd keys which are one in the same. This is/was of course not aimed at

Re: Mac keyboards (was: Shift-apple-cmd-power key combo?)

2005-01-04 Thread Marcin Wichary
The alt was added to the option key so that people used to pc machines would know what the key did Could you elaborate on that, please? The way I see it it doesn't do the thing many PC users would expect it to do, which is activating menu items with the corresponding letter underlined. AFAIK

Re: Mac keyboards (was: Shift-apple-cmd-power key combo?)

2005-01-04 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Jan 4, 2005, at 11:32 AM, Marcin Wichary wrote: This is/was of course not aimed at you personally... although I can't help but wonder if the keys had just one designation each, would the likelihood of you making the same mistake be the same? because one refers to the Mac keyboard, and the

Re: Mac keyboards (was: Shift-apple-cmd-power key combo?)

2005-01-04 Thread Marcin Wichary
This is/was of course not aimed at you personally... although I can't help but wonder if the keys had just one designation each, would the likelihood of you making the same mistake be the same? because one refers to the Mac keyboard, and the other to what this key is called on other systems. I

Re: Mac keyboards (was: Shift-apple-cmd-power key combo?)

2005-01-04 Thread Amber
On 1/4/05 10:32 AM, Marcin Wichary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I meant to type in the option key but instead typed in Apple and Cmd keys which are one in the same. This is/was of course not aimed at you personally... although I can't help but wonder if the keys had just one designation each,

Re: Mac keyboards (was: Shift-apple-cmd-power key combo?)

2005-01-04 Thread Marcin Wichary
I know what you are saying but this really was just a case of being exhausted at the time I wrote the note and not catching my error before I sent it. :-) Got it. :) I still wish (think) it could (should) be as simple as it once was... http://www.aci.com.pl/mwichary/about/portfolio/posters/