Re: losing value....

2002-06-01 Thread Travis Martin
> OK, here I come to save your minds > > x86 CPUs and 68k CPUs are both CISC (Complex Instructions Set > Computing) and the 8500 (PPC CPUs) are RISC (Reduced Instruction Set > Computing). > > is a 486 equal to that of a 8500? Um, no. But Kyle was saying that > comparison for this reason: > > w

Re: losing value....

2002-06-01 Thread Ryan Coleman
OK, here I come to save your minds x86 CPUs and 68k CPUs are both CISC (Complex Instructions Set Computing) and the 8500 (PPC CPUs) are RISC (Reduced Instruction Set Computing). is a 486 equal to that of a 8500? Um, no. But Kyle was saying that comparison for this reason: what was Apple rele

Re: losing value....

2002-06-01 Thread Travis Martin
> I was trying to equate a 1995 PC with a 1995 Mac. The 8500 came out in 1995. Sure; but isn't an 8500 a power pc processor? (I'm not nearly as familiar with macs as I am with pc's---that's why I subscribed to this list: to learn.) I think the 486 and 68040 were roughly equivalent; the pentiu

Re: losing value....

2002-06-01 Thread Kyle Hansen
Travis Martin wrote: > > I completely agree with Kyle here, sorry Michael. > > > >> Why is that not a good analogy? What was on the PC market in 1995? The > >> conversion to Windoze 95 had just started and most people were using 3.1. The > >> MOST advanced PC around that time for the consumer

Re: losing value....

2002-06-01 Thread Travis Martin
> I completely agree with Kyle here, sorry Michael. > >> Why is that not a good analogy? What was on the PC market in 1995? The >> conversion to Windoze 95 had just started and most people were using 3.1. The >> MOST advanced PC around that time for the consumer was a Pentium 1 at 133MHz. >>

Re: losing value....

2002-06-01 Thread Ryan Coleman
I completely agree with Kyle here, sorry Michael. >Why is that not a good analogy? What was on the PC market in 1995? The >conversion to Windoze 95 had just started and most people were using 3.1. The >MOST advanced PC around that time for the consumer was a Pentium 1 at 133MHz. >I think that w

Re: losing value....

2002-06-01 Thread Kyle Hansen
Michael Bryan Bell wrote: > > Do you know *anyone* using a 486 running Windoze 3.1 as their main machine > > still? > > Unfortunately, yeah I know quite a few. Most of them are tied to it due to > vertical market software. > > A 486 running 3.1 is not a good analogy compared to an 8500, more li

Re: losing value....

2002-06-01 Thread Michael Bryan Bell
> Do you know *anyone* using a 486 running Windoze 3.1 as their main machine > still? Unfortunately, yeah I know quite a few. Most of them are tied to it due to vertical market software. A 486 running 3.1 is not a good analogy compared to an 8500, more like the quadras and centris's and LC's. W

Re: losing value....

2002-05-31 Thread aron nelson
>I know people still using 8500's as their main machines with G3 upgrades. >The 8500 came out in 1995. I see, yes, my friend is using a 9600 I believe, but he got a G4 upgrade. > >Do you know *anyone* using a 486 running Windoze 3.1 as their main machine >still? No, most of them got CPU upgrade

Re: losing value....

2002-05-31 Thread George Gunderson
On Friday, May 31, 2002, at 10:54 , Kyle Hansen wrote: > > I know people still using 8500's as their main machines with G3 > upgrades. > The 8500 came out in 1995. Heh, my father uses an 8500/288MB/1GB with a Sonnet 400Mhz G3 card for his business needs (email and updating his website.) > > Do

Re: losing value....

2002-05-31 Thread Kyle Hansen
Aron Nelson wrote: > >That and the fact that PC's lose their value far faster than Mac's. > > How much is my TiBook 550Mhz which I bought 3 months ago worth now, > compared to new then :-) > > Actually on the PC side, I haven't found this to be the case. If you > buy the lower end - say a Penti

losing value....

2002-05-31 Thread Aron Nelson
>That and the fact that PC's lose their value far faster than Mac's. How much is my TiBook 550Mhz which I bought 3 months ago worth now, compared to new then :-) Actually on the PC side, I haven't found this to be the case. If you buy the lower end - say a Pentium 4 @ 1.8Ghz! = $899, it doesn'