Re: next generation of laptop construction and design

2004-06-08 Thread Bruce Mitchell
I love the trackpad. I'm a high-speed touch-typist and to me the track pad is far better ergonomically than a track ball or mouse. I don't think I have ever hit it accidentally during the course of typing. Bruce on 6/7/04 10:57 PM, Andrew F. at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, as a

Re: next generation of laptop construction and design

2004-06-08 Thread Timothy Luoma
On 6/8/04 2:21 AM, Andrew F. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I still prefer the feel of the IBM Eraserhead Thingee, which to me is about the best laptop pointing device out there. Ick. Hate em. Love the trackpad. There may be something better out there to be invented, but the eraserhead is awful.

Re: next generation of laptop construction and design

2004-06-08 Thread Andrew F.
I see your office 2004 test drive footer. How do you like it so far? I have and like v.X, but figured on upgrading since I qualify for the student and teacher addition, which is a steal at $150 for three licenses and I only have the single license on v.X (installed on two computers, but can't

Re: next generation of laptop construction and design

2004-06-08 Thread Susan Platter
it. Altogether, a very pleasant, attractive design. Susan Platter Swindon, Wiltshire, England On Tuesday, June 8, 2004, at 07:01 AM, G-Books wrote: Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2004 01:53:34 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: next generation of laptop construction and design Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: next generation of laptop construction and design

2004-06-08 Thread Mikael Byström
Whatabout magnesium housing? I remember skateboard trucks was (are?) made from aluminium and that magnesium ones replaced them to some extent as they were lighter. Would that be a good material for portables too? -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronics

Re: next generation of laptop construction and design

2004-06-08 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 6/8/04 3:49 AM, Susan Platter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The whole ergonomics of the G3 Series is (are?) superior to later models. The trackpad that follows the contour of the case interior, the excellent keyboard, the curved case that somehow makes it more human-friendly, the feel of the

Re: next generation of laptop construction and design

2004-06-08 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 6/8/04 1:57 AM, Andrew F. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The 500-series were cool because they introduced the touchpad (woe be to us), and now, a decade later, we have, the same, ergonomically dismal trackpad. But I don't miss removing the ball to clean the rollers. david -- G-Books is

Re: next generation of laptop construction and design

2004-06-08 Thread Dana Sibera
On 08/06/2004, at 5:49 PM, Susan Platter wrote: The whole ergonomics of the G3 Series is (are?) superior to later models. The trackpad that follows the contour of the case interior, the excellent keyboard, the curved case that somehow makes it more human-friendly, the feel of the matt black

Re: next generation of laptop construction and design

2004-06-08 Thread COCCORP
In a message dated 6/8/2004 1:58:04 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Something along the lines of the IBM eraserhead, only easier to use, retaining the ability to tap but without the huge square of touch-sensitive whatever the hell its made of to be accidentally touched. I'm

Re: next generation of laptop construction and design

2004-06-08 Thread Andrew F.
PROTECTED] Subject: Re: next generation of laptop construction and design Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Speaking of the next generation PowerBooks, it would be really neat if Apple would scrap the trackpads used in the G4's and went back to the configuration used in the Pismo. Having it raised

Re: next generation of laptop construction and design

2004-06-08 Thread Andrew F.
Problem with a touchscreen is that for the touch capability they usual sacrifice some brightness and sharpness. If they could make one that looked as good as a conventional TFT that would be a good option. Andrew On 6/8/04 7:12 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message

Re: next generation of laptop construction and design

2004-06-08 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Jun 7, 2004, at 10:57 PM, Andrew F. wrote: Actually, as a long-time trackpad-hater and IBM TrackPoint fan, why not just get rid of the trackpad altogether and let Apple inovate something new? The original PB 100 was so cool because unlike the clip-on mice of the competition, it had a

Re: next generation of laptop construction and design

2004-06-08 Thread Christopher Kolp
Let's take it back old-school and put trackballs back on them! :) Seriously, am I the only one who liked/likes using the 1xx series with the trackballs? -Chris On Jun 8, 2004, at 12:14 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: Oh lordy *ANYTHING* but that damned eraserhead. I *hate* those things. They are a

Re: next generation of laptop construction and design

2004-06-08 Thread Laurent Daudelin
On 08/06/04 12:30, Christopher Kolp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let's take it back old-school and put trackballs back on them! :) Seriously, am I the only one who liked/likes using the 1xx series with the trackballs? I much prefer trackpads... -Laurent. --

Re: next generation of laptop construction and design

2004-06-08 Thread Mikael Byström
Susan, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: the excellent keyboard (of the G3 series) Excuse me, but I think the keyboard of the Powerbook Titanium is the best so far. I write about twice as fast and make fewer errors. I have more erroneous trackpad twinches, but maybe I havwe to adjust. -- G-Books is

Re: next generation of laptop construction and design

2004-06-08 Thread TjL
.. Original Message ... On Tue, 8 Jun 2004 08:49:13 +0100 Susan Platter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The whole ergonomics of the G3 Series is (are?) superior to later models. fyi (since you sorta asked) ... ergonomics is plural so are would be proper. -- G-Books is sponsored by

Re: next generation of laptop construction and design

2004-06-08 Thread Andrew F.
No, you aren't. Despite all of the advances, I still consider my old 145B to be about the best writing machine I've ever used. I miss it so much I've actually toyed with the idea of getting another one. Andrew On 6/8/04 9:30 AM, Christopher Kolp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let's take it back

Re: next generation of laptop construction and design

2004-06-08 Thread Andrew F.
Titanium or aluminum? The aluminum keyboard is fabulous, but the one on the titanium feels mushy to me, much like an iBook keyboard. Andrew On 6/8/04 3:14 AM, Mikael Byström [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Susan, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: the excellent keyboard (of the G3 series) Excuse me, but I

Re: next generation of laptop construction and design

2004-06-08 Thread Mikael Byström
Christopher, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Seriously, am I the only one who liked/likes using the 1xx series with the trackballs? Yes, I'd say so. Maybe if it was possible to have a large ball. But how? A trackball with no moving parts? -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and...

Re: next generation of laptop construction and design

2004-06-08 Thread Michelle Klein-Hass
On Tuesday 08 June 2004 11:32 am, Mikael Byström wrote: Christopher, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Seriously, am I the only one who liked/likes using the 1xx series with the trackballs? Yes, I'd say so. Maybe if it was possible to have a large ball. But how? A trackball with no moving parts?

Re: next generation of laptop construction and design

2004-06-08 Thread Susan Platter
on lap! Susan Platter Swindon, Wiltshire, England On Tuesday, June 8, 2004, at 08:01 PM, G-Books wrote: Subject: Re: next generation of laptop construction and design Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: TjL [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2004 14:09 -0400

Re: next generation of laptop construction and design

2004-06-08 Thread Hal
Heh, I agree with you. I have an old PB180 that I still occasionally use. I like the feel of the TiBook keyboard over the iBook (I have a 900mHz G3) and previous G3 Powerbooks. I had a rev. B 12 PBG4 that felt OK, but not a significant improvement from the Ti (IMHO). I also find that I make

Re: next generation of laptop construction and design

2004-06-07 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Jun 6, 2004, at 3:42 PM, Donald Keenan wrote: Does anyone suspect that Apple will settle with light metal, specifically aluminum, from now on? Is there likely to be a new industrial plastic or composite of some sort that will be more durable and damage resistant?-- No more than they've

Re: next generation of laptop construction and design

2004-06-07 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 6/6/04 6:42 PM, Donald Keenan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looking at my Pismo, I now find the Titanium PowerBook vintage appeal starting to call me. These were troublesome in that they were easily banged up, scratched, etc. Is the aluminum as vulnerable. Since the 17 and 12 aluminum models

Re: next generation of laptop construction and design

2004-06-07 Thread Donald Keenan
On Monday, June 7, 2004, at 12:31 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: IMO the Aluminum 'books look really nice new, really nice old, and kinda crappy inbetween ;-) Once they're scratched up to get kind of a matte finish all over, they're not bad looking, but they look kinda beat up when there are enough

Re: next generation of laptop construction and design

2004-06-07 Thread Dana Sibera
On 07/06/2004, at 8:42 AM, Donald Keenan wrote: Hi! I've got a very genereal question and I'd be very interested if anyone has any thoughts about it. Looking at my Pismo, I now find the Titanium PowerBook vintage appeal starting to call me. These were troublesome in that they were easily

Re: next generation of laptop construction and design

2004-06-07 Thread Hoju Dingo
Hi I agree the White iBook was nice ... but not for the PowerBooks; I reckon a return to black would be nice ... maybe with some chrome highlights ... but it could be my motorbike days are messing with Pismo on my brain ... I'm unsure whether a glossy black or a matt black would be the go ...

Re: next generation of laptop construction and design

2004-06-07 Thread Andrew F.
I rather like the aluminum, so much so that I spent a whole lot more money for my 1GHz 12 when the 800MHz G4 iBook would have equally served my needs. For me, it was just too many nice points on the expensive PB (the keyboard is to die for) and an overall cheapness about the iBook. Oh well, the

Re: next generation of laptop construction and design

2004-06-07 Thread Andrew F.
Actually, as a long-time trackpad-hater and IBM TrackPoint fan, why not just get rid of the trackpad altogether and let Apple inovate something new? The original PB 100 was so cool because unlike the clip-on mice of the competition, it had a wonderful trackball built-in. The 500-series were cool

next generation of laptop construction and design

2004-06-06 Thread Donald Keenan
Hi! I've got a very genereal question and I'd be very interested if anyone has any thoughts about it. Looking at my Pismo, I now find the Titanium PowerBook vintage appeal starting to call me. These were troublesome in that they were easily banged up, scratched, etc. Is the aluminum as