On Jan 5, 2009, at 9:44 AM, D Stubbs wrote:
It's a 'Stack of Disks'
If it is a stack of discs (platter)- and if something failed does
it stand to reason that it would fail one disc at at time?
BUT Data is written on all of the #1 cylinders (tracks on the
disk), then writing
On Jan 5, 2009, at 9:50 AM, Hunter Fuller wrote:
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2009/1/5 D Stubbs :
I am trying to get my head around this concept - that a partition
is not a
partition. Tried googling Understanding Partitions and What is a
Partition. All I found were
On Jan 4, 2009, at 4:56 PM, George Hozendorf wrote:
- Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth
When I open Mail it quits before a window opens. I'm not having
problems with the two accounts I have under my login. What do you
mean move aside Mail's preferences?
Since this account
On Jan 5, 2009, at 9:29 AM, Hunter Fuller wrote:
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2009/1/4 Charles Davis :
But as I sit here with 26 (yes Twenty six) partitions on the right
hand side of my screen, there are times when the amount of 'real
estate' is a bother, but on the
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2009/1/5 D Stubbs :
I am trying to get my head around this concept - that a partition is not a
partition. Tried googling Understanding Partitions and What is a
Partition. All I found were basic descriptions of the fact. Even found a
recent blog
At 12:28 PM -0500 1/5/2009, Charles Davis wrote:
I think the usual failure mode these days, is a surface deformity of
some sort.
Surface deformities are mapped out during factory low-level formatting.
Oxide formations are what causes most sector failures -- RUST.
- Dan.
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On Jan 5, 2009, at 12:35 PM, Dan wrote:
At 12:28 PM -0500 1/5/2009, Charles Davis wrote:
I think the usual failure mode these days, is a surface deformity of
some sort.
Surface deformities are mapped out during factory low-level
formatting.
Oxide formations are what causes most
On Jan 5, 2009, at 12:35 PM, Dan wrote:
At 12:28 PM -0500 1/5/2009, Charles Davis wrote:
I think the usual failure mode these days, is a surface deformity of
some sort.
Surface deformities are mapped out during factory low-level
formatting.
Yeah, those 'scratches that didn't polish
Hello All, Thanks for your input!
I wanted to 'expand' on how I'm handling this family photo archive
project. :-)
I AM COMMITTED TO DOING THE SCANNING AND ORGANIZING OF FILES O-N-C-E
DOING IT R-I-G-H-T AND NOT HAVING TO REPEAT THE W-O-R-K FOR THESE
PARTICULAR PHOTOGRAPHS!
My work motto is '
On Jan 5, 2009, at 9:44 AM, D Stubbs wrote:
I suppose it is some kind of 'virtual directory'?
What makes no sense yet to me is how, say partition #3 could go
bad, and not the others - if it they all bunched together.
The following is vastly simplified, and there are a lot of
exceptions,
At 10:34 PM -0500 1/4/09, Dan posted:
At 1:27 PM -0800 1/4/2009, Amanda Ward wrote:
Maxtor OneTouch 4P 250 GB external drive
Sawtooth running X 10.5.6.
Disk Utility says it can't unmount the drive and I can't eject it
because The drive is in use.
When this happens to me, it's usually TextEdit
At 10:13 AM -0800 1/5/2009, aussieshepsrock wrote:
I wanted to 'expand' on how I'm handling this family photo archive
project. :-)
[snip - lots of details]
Sounds like a good, well thought out plan to me.
Query! - As someone who has definitely experienced the loss of data in
hd failure,
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2009/1/4 Charles Davis :
But as I sit here with 26 (yes Twenty six) partitions on the right
hand side of my screen, there are times when the amount of 'real
estate' is a bother, but on the other hand, I can see that I have 12
bootable systems
On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 1:13 PM, aussieshepsrock
ilovaussiesh...@yahoo.com wrote:
Query! - As someone who has definitely experienced the loss of data in
hd failure, optical disc failure/damage, floppy/zip failure, and video
tape decay. I wonder how something as fragile as 'Tapes' can be
2009/1/4 Charles Davis c...@gamewood.net:
BUT Data is written on all of the #1 cylinders (tracks on the
disk), then writing moves to 'Cylinder #2', then Cylinder #3,.
This is wrong. On an 80 GiB disk, for instance, if I make two 40 GiB
partitions, and save a file to the second, it
At 1:34 PM -0500 1/5/2009, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote:
Old 40 and 60 GB tape cartridges
LOL Guess I'm dating myself. When I think of mag tape, I think of
9track - 800 or 1600 or 6250bpi reels, not carts.
I have some mylar paper tape, from the 70s and 80s. No data degradation there!
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Has anyone used CRC LECTRA CLEAN to clean contact points and if so,
is it advisable? Opinions?
Thank you
John Callahan
jcalla...@stny.rr.com
If there are no dogs in Heaven, when I die I want to go where they
went.¨
--Will Rogers
extreme positive = (ybya2)
On Jan 5, 2009, at 9:28 AM, Charles Davis wrote:
The reason being that it is faster to 'change the W/R head, than it
is to physically move the W/R head to a different cylinder.
Well- and for the obvious reason that you aren't always partitioning
into pieces that divide perfectly among
As for your older files, You should be able to use OS9 Classic
Environment either way for files 9.2 and older.
On Jan 4, 10:21 pm, joe j...@joethejuggler.com wrote:
On Jan 1, 2009, at 4:05 AM, Kris Tilford wrote:
The key to this Mac is:
Machine Model: PowerMac3,3
An AGP Graphics
On Jan 5, 2009, at 9:33 AM, Hunter Fuller wrote:
2009/1/4 Charles Davis c...@gamewood.net:
BUT Data is written on all of the #1 cylinders (tracks on the
disk), then writing moves to 'Cylinder #2', then Cylinder
#3,.
This is wrong. On an 80 GiB disk, for instance, if I make
At 8:44 AM -0600 1/5/2009, D Stubbs wrote:
I am trying to get my head around this concept - that a partition is
not a partition. Tried googling
But I am no further in understanding what is actually happening.
I suppose it is some kind of 'virtual directory'?
What makes no sense yet to me is
You would need to adapt the DA power supply to match the Quicksilver's
pinout; see:
http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/tips/MDD_ps_mods/MDD_PS_Mods.html
On Jan 5, 12:52 am, jonas ulrich jonasulrich3...@gmail.com wrote:
I was wondering if it is possible to put a quicksilver mother board in a
digital
Bruce may not have the time to say what he said a few weeks ago. So, I
will pass it on. It was a single line that essentially suggests; get a
G5 than spend money on a G4 upgrade. I'm still mulling that suggestion.
I have Sawtooths. I was hoping to get a DA but Bruce gave me something
to think
On Jan 5, 2009, at 12:21 AM, joe wrote:
On Jan 1, 2009, at 4:05 AM, Kris Tilford wrote:
The key to this Mac is:
Machine Model: PowerMac3,3
An AGP Graphics (Sawtooth) should be PowerMac3,1.
Yes. Also, on my AGP Graphics (originally a 450 mhz) the profiler
even identifies it as
Here is Leopards minimum requirements in the following link.
http://www.apple.com/macosx/techspecs/
On Jan 4, 10:21 pm, joe j...@joethejuggler.com wrote:
On Jan 1, 2009, at 4:05 AM, Kris Tilford wrote:
The key to this Mac is:
Machine Model: PowerMac3,3
An AGP Graphics (Sawtooth)
The modeling that determines what CPU to use is more complex than has been
stated. it is not simply a matter of cost and capability but, and these are
just some more considerations, it is a matter of answering these two additional
questions:
1- Am I satisfied with what my current CPU does?
2-
It's a 'Stack of Disks'
If it is a stack of discs (platter)- and if something failed does
it stand to reason that it would fail one disc at at time?
BUT Data is written on all of the #1 cylinders (tracks on the
disk), then writing moves to 'Cylinder #2', then Cylinder #3,.
'Tis an interesting discussion.
As for mag tapes, higher bit density leads to less than permanent
storage. Good old 7 track 256 BPI tapes had a good reputation. In
spite of the better magnetic materials, group-encoded tape records
with their auto correcting error codes just got worse and
At 2:34 PM -0500 1/5/2009, Charles Davis wrote:
On Jan 5, 2009, at 1:48 PM, MIKO .. wrote:
On Jan 5, 2009, at 9:28 AM, Charles Davis wrote:
Well- and for the obvious reason that you aren't always partitioning
into pieces that divide perfectly among platters!
But, you forget Partitions
At 1:31 PM -0700 1/5/2009, Doug McNutt wrote:
As for optical disks the little pits are smaller for higher density
DVDs than for CD-ROMs. I should be expected that smaller pits will
be more subject to damage than bigger ones. But an important part of
the safety is the material in which the pits
On Jan 5, 2009, at 12:00 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:
In the slot or on the DIMMS?
I've always gone low tech on the dimms, using a white Mars eraser on
them. Cleans the traces right up.
I've never used that CRC product, but I've used Permatex electrical
contact cleaner in the past with
Old 40 and 60 GB tape cartridges and the drive to use them are in a
backroom somewhere as forgotten technology waiting to be given away to
someone. I am not saying this is best for you but the old stuff is out
there, hardly used in many cases and still viable. They were designed
for long
On Jan 5, 2009, at 2:22 PM, John Callahan wrote:
On the dimms, what do you suggest for the slots?
Thanks
That's what I've used the spray cleaner for. However, when I've used
stuff like that it's usually because I've needed to do a serious
cleaning and so have disassembled the system,
Regarding the format of your archived photos: The photo industry
believes that the highest quality version of an image is its RAW
version, when available. The address this, and a global standard, the
DNG format has been evolving and DNG format with the original RAW
image embedded along
On Jan 5, 2009, at 10:31 AM, Dan wrote:
Magnetic media is actually less fragile than burned media. heh.
I've got tapes and floppies that were written in the 80s, that still
read just fine.
Tapes/etc store data as magnetic patterns that don't degrade / fade
much.
I think tapes are
At 4:34 PM -0500 1/5/2009, John Callahan wrote:
It seems from this excellent interchange that for long term storage
tape is the longest lasting.
yes, but... The tape market is undergoing big changes, format,
interface etc. I think the built-in obsolescence is very limiting.
At least in the
At 1:55 PM -0800 1/5/2009, MIKO .. wrote:
The photo industry believes that the highest quality version of an
image is its RAW
version, when available.
Each company has its own variant of RAW. There will be no standard
any time soon.
TIFF is better.
No physical media type (like CD-R) is
Original Poster Here:
Query? - There are Ultra-High Grade Discs made with Gold (to resist
corrosion), High Grade Plastics to resist scratches and etc, and with
the use of 'higher' stability Dyes (?) all put together with high
quality construction processes in their production. The prices are
On Jan 5, 2009, at 5:12 PM, Dan wrote:
At 1:55 PM -0800 1/5/2009, MIKO .. wrote:
The photo industry believes that the highest quality version of an
image is its RAW
version, when available.
Each company has its own variant of RAW. There will be no standard
any time soon.
TIFF is
Hey one I can answer! It seems to be that Kodachrome 25 has a life of at least
it seems 70 years under proper conditions of archival storage, Ektachrome seems
to be about half to 3/4s of that time as some visible fading has occurred. BW
prints properly fixed and rinsed are limited by the paper
On Jan 5, 2009, at 11:30 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote:
On Jan 4, 2009, at 4:56 PM, George Hozendorf wrote:
- Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth
When I open Mail it quits before a window opens. I'm not having
problems with the two accounts I have under my login. What do you
On Jan 5, 2009, at 2:42 PM, Sam Macomber wrote:
Each company has its own variant of RAW. There will be no standard
any time soon.
TIFF is better.
Whoever wrote this is a bit rude. Yes of course I know that every
form on RAW is different, which is EXACTLY why you convert it to DNG
and
On Jan 5, 2009, at 2:42 PM, Sam Macomber wrote:
At this point with newer systems they're generally all supported by
Photoshop CameraRAW and can be converted to DNG. i feel that's
reasonably safe since I'm seeling the useful life right around 10
years for an image, I don't see many calls
How about storing our archival digital disks in a hermetically sealed
container, flushed with nitrogen or carbon dioxide (easy to obtain,
even from a flake of dry ice, dropped into the storage container just
before sealing it)? That way, there should be little or no oxyge, and
little or
Hi Miko,
I happen to personally 'like' your DNG suggestion and am a genuine
devotee of RAW files and actively shoot and store them! However, the
archive I am creating is NOT an archive for ME or being created for MY
use. It's being created for two equally important 'future' relatives -
Someone
On Jan 5, 2009, at 4:36 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:
On Jan 5, 2009, at 2:22 PM, John Callahan wrote:
On the dimms, what do you suggest for the slots?
Thanks
That's what I've used the spray cleaner for. However, when I've used
stuff like that it's usually because I've needed to do a
On Jan 5, 2009, at 7:13 PM, Stanton Mitrany wrote:
How about storing our archival digital disks in a hermetically sealed
container, flushed with nitrogen or carbon dioxide (easy to obtain,
even from a flake of dry ice, dropped into the storage container just
before sealing it)? That way,
On Jan 5, 2009, at 4:16 PM, aussieshepsrock wrote:
Sorry Miko, The purpose of my project disqualifies your suggestion for
reasons seperate to what makes dng raw so wonderful. I dearly hope
that 5-10 years from now DNG has the status of TIFF. LONG LIVE ADOBE -
LONG LIVE PHOTOSHOP!
No need
On Jan 5, 2009, at 4:13 PM, Stanton Mitrany wrote:
How about storing our archival digital disks in a hermetically sealed
container, flushed with nitrogen or carbon dioxide (easy to obtain,
even from a flake of dry ice, dropped into the storage container just
before sealing it)? That way,
On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 6:13 PM, George Hozendorf ghoze...@gmail.com wrote:
On Jan 5, 2009, at 11:30 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote:
On Jan 4, 2009, at 4:56 PM, George Hozendorf wrote:
- Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth
When I open Mail it quits before a window opens. I'm not
2009/1/5 Dan dantear...@gmail.com:
At 8:50 AM -0600 1/5/2009, Hunter Fuller wrote:
The disk is partitioned in this manner:
Say you have multiple platters in a drive (the most common) and you
have an 80 GiB disk.
We will say it has four platters for simplicity.
When you partition it, let's say
On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 7:58 PM, George Hozendorf ghoze...@gmail.com wrote:
On Jan 5, 2009, at 6:51 PM, Marty Levine wrote:
On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 6:13 PM, George Hozendorf
ghoze...@gmail.com wrote:
On Jan 5, 2009, at 11:30 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote:
On Jan 4, 2009, at 4:56 PM, George
At 2:28 PM -0800 1/5/2009, aussieshepsrock wrote:
There are Ultra-High Grade Discs made with Gold (to resist
corrosion), High Grade Plastics to resist scratches and etc, and with
the use of 'higher' stability Dyes (?) all put together with high
quality construction processes in their production.
The task I have is to transfer a number of calls on my answering machine
to a digital file. So I have to do it with a mike input. I figured
since the Powerbook has a built-in mike that I can set levels on,
recording would be a simple task.
But of course, it ain't.
I'm probably gonna spring
Could some one tell me an easy way to import Last Name, First Name and
eMail address info from Excel into the Address Book Application?
George
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Some personal data points to add to the discussion:
Wooden box = bad idea!
You want a CHEMICALLY INERT container. Wood has all sorts of acids/
resins/whatever that may leach out and attack/contaminate the dyes
that hold the data on your precious disks. Go for stainless steel
(good luck finding
2009/1/5 Clark Martin cm...@sonic.net:
At least from what I have seen, cylinder order *is* done by numbering
cylinders starting on one platter, then the next, etc.
Cylinderx SPAN platters, so they don't start on one platter, etc.
TRACKS start on one platter then the next and on to the next
Original Poster Here:
who's
AUTHORITY and METHODS were exceptionally well regarded. Where is an
organization like this for storage mediums. One (or more) has to exist
but where do I find it?
You can find some information from NIST here:
http://www.itl.nist.gov/iad/894.05/home.html
or try the
On Jan 5, 2009, at 7:40 PM, MIKO .. wrote:
On Jan 5, 2009, at 4:13 PM, Stanton Mitrany wrote:
How about storing our archival digital disks in a hermetically sealed
container, flushed with nitrogen or carbon dioxide (easy to obtain,
even from a flake of dry ice, dropped into the storage
On 5 Jan 2009, at 17:58:51 PST, George Hozendorf wrote:
Could some one tell me an easy way to import Last Name, First Name and
eMail address info from Excel into the Address Book Application?
George
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Maybe save it as a text file, each record a separate line,
fields
At 5:42 PM -0500 1/5/2009, Sam Macomber wrote:
On Jan 5, 2009, at 5:12 PM, Dan wrote:
At 1:55 PM -0800 1/5/2009, MIKO .. wrote:
The photo industry believes that the highest quality version of an
image is its RAW version, when available.
Each company has its own variant of RAW. There will be no
On Jan 5, 2:17 pm, dorayme
Had a moment this morning to see if I could open the LCD screen. I
have been putting it off because it never looked easy! I located the
part I probably need, the tube in US. ...Am stuck for
now. Am searching web for tips and found some but I dunno... I need
better
You do need to be aware that the simplest questions, posed here, can
generate excessive amounts of only possibly useful information.
;-)
Chuck D.
[On being aware!!, it's probably obvious by now!!!]
On Jan 5, 2009, at 11:59 PM, D Stubbs wrote:
Whew, I am a bit speechless. I am going to
On Jan 5, 2009, at 7:34 PM, insightinmind wrote:
I haven't read this entire enormous thread, but has anyone mentioned
storing the data files in cyberspace?
I definitely wanted to mention this but GUESS WHAT! I HAVE
EXPERIENCE! I was storing music files onlinr and then the company
I have an external DVD Burner that for some reason will only read and burn
dvds connected through USB to my Powermac G4. I can play dvds from it on
other computers that have internal dvd drives, but not mine because I have
an internal CD RW drive. DVD player just says there is no supported dvd
At 9:09 PM -0800 1/5/2009, MIKO .. wrote:
On Jan 5, 2009, at 7:34 PM, insightinmind wrote:
I haven't read this entire enormous thread, but has anyone mentioned
storing the data files in cyberspace?
Nothing wrong with keeping a copy of your files up on a remote server
somewhere. Apps like
Well, for the ultimate in archivalness (is that a word?), to preserve
things for future generations of your family, do what I plan to do:
get rid of both magnetic and optical storage. Back to basics here.
Sure, we all shoot digital now, but we don't have to store that way.
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