Re: Proof that Apple could not have dropped ADB support in Tiger and Leo

2010-02-22 Thread Clark Martin
On 2/22/10 7:58 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: On Feb 22, 2010, at 9:17 PM, James Therrault wrote: I can't confirm any loading of extensions since I use Tiger. What? You can look in System Profiler under "Extensions", although this may not show every extension. For a complete list of every loaded ex

Re: [G3-5]Re: Beige Desktop Ram Question

2010-02-22 Thread MaGioZal
On 2/15/10 9:28 AM, Kris Tilford at wrote: > That's great to know. I only have experience with the VIA Combo card > that isn't backwards compatible to OS 9, and also isn't very good in > OS X. I wouldn't recommend a VIA card VIA Cards are usable only if the Mac has a system equal or superior to

Re: [G3-5]Re: Beige Desktop Ram Question

2010-02-22 Thread MaGioZal
On 2/15/10 3:14 PM, Kasey Smith at wrote: > Works fine in OS9 on the B&W but not on the Molar Mac > (beige G3) That's weird. Theoretically, NEC cards should work even within a Performa 6360! Have you checked the USB driver configuration and/or Mac OS installation on the Molar Mac's HD? --

Re: Better GPU for G4 Digi Audio?

2010-02-22 Thread Michael G.M.
Thank you all for the help and tips as I really appreciate them!!! I guess I'm going through the PPC blues, especially when I read on other Mac sites about performance and all the new power available from even the mini intel. And of course, all the groaning of PPC Mac users. (Like mine) I'm not g

When Macs go evil

2010-02-22 Thread Dan
Over the years, I think we've all taken note of Mac product placement in TV shows and movies. From Scotty talking into that mouse, to David Levinson using a PowerBook to upload a virus into the alien mothership, on Independence Day. (Yes, Mac OS *is* compatible with alien computer systems!)

Re: Need for list message morphing rule

2010-02-22 Thread Dan
At 5:58 AM + 2/23/2010, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: What does that have to do with the topic of morphing/thread highjacking ? I did not read the webcam threads as I was not interested in the subject line. 1. The original thread's topic, webcam issues, was on-topic to g3-5. 2. The ori

Re: Proof that Apple could not have dropped ADB support in Tiger and Leo

2010-02-22 Thread PM7500
Your iBook does not have an ADB port, but internally it uses ADB for the trackpad and keyboard. On Feb 21, 9:38 pm, Bob Whiton wrote: > At 6:54 PM -0700 2/21/10, Kasey Smith wrote: > > >It would be hard for Apple to have dropped ADB because, according > >to

Re: Need for list message morphing rule

2010-02-22 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 2:14 AM, Kyle Hansen wrote: > On 2/22/10 2:42 PM, "Wallace Adrian D'Alessio" > wrote: > >> Kyle, >> >> How about addressing whether list rules and other issues directly >> related to a specific list are legitimate subjects to discuss. >> >> And if LEMlists group list is th

Re: Better GPU for G4 Digi Audio?

2010-02-22 Thread Kris Tilford
On Feb 22, 2010, at 10:06 PM, Michael G.M. wrote: I got the wrong SATA connector for my drive I just ordered. It's the Seritek SCS1. I don't see any such model of Seritek card? You may have transposed the model# ? I thought it was for using SATA on ATA bus, but it's for ATA/ IDE on SATA

Re: G4 with sleeping problem

2010-02-22 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Feb 22, 2010, at 7:55 PM, Jason tar wrote: I have OS X and ubuntu installe; this has happened during an update to ubuntu. then it's some weird thing to do with ubuntu. I know Ubuntu has reported issues with power management on a number of systems, it's why I run Suse on my netbook.

Re: Better GPU for G4 Digi Audio?

2010-02-22 Thread Michael G.M.
Perhaps I'm flogging a old tired horse. The DA does have a CPU upgrade; It's a PL 800 MHz with fast L2 and L3 caches, which accordingly makes it as fast as a 1 GHz. I'll have to fiddle with things when I get some time. I got the wrong SATA connector for my drive I just ordered. So, I can't install

Re: Proof that Apple could not have dropped ADB support in Tiger and Leo

2010-02-22 Thread Kris Tilford
On Feb 22, 2010, at 9:17 PM, James Therrault wrote: I can't confirm any loading of extensions since I use Tiger. What? You can look in System Profiler under "Extensions", although this may not show every extension. For a complete list of every loaded extension open Terminal and use the com

Re: G4 with sleeping problem

2010-02-22 Thread Kris Tilford
On Feb 22, 2010, at 9:12 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: This article about enabling Mac hibernation on older Macs says that Linux uses the same type thing called "software suspend". Opps, forgot the link about enabling hibernation on older Macs: --

Re: Proof that Apple could not have dropped ADB support in Tiger and Leo

2010-02-22 Thread James Therrault
On Feb 22, 2010, at 6:31 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: On Feb 22, 2010, at 4:28 PM, James Therrault wrote: I've been lurking on this thread and always thought that indeed, G4 powerbooks had internal ADB even though it does not show up in "About This Mac" hardware listings. I have a 1.25GHz PB t

Re: G4 with sleeping problem

2010-02-22 Thread Kris Tilford
On Feb 22, 2010, at 8:55 PM, Jason tar wrote: I do not believe that I have any USB devices that would cause a problem (keyboard and mouse) save an iPod cable with an iPod attched. But I still do not think that that is causing the problem as it has happened with just a keyboard and mouse att

Re: G4 with sleeping problem

2010-02-22 Thread Jason tar
> Just a Guess: USB devices attached may make a difference. > Are any still active / drawing power when you try to Sleep > the machine? > > Are there any processes still running when you Sleep the > machine? I do not believe that I have any USB devices that would cause a problem (keyboard an

Re: Need for list message morphing rule

2010-02-22 Thread Kyle Hansen
On 2/22/10 2:42 PM, "Wallace Adrian D'Alessio" wrote: > Kyle, > > How about addressing whether list rules and other issues directly > related to a specific list are legitimate subjects to discuss. > > And if LEMlists group list is the "only" place to legitimately discuss > such list business wh

Re: G4 with sleeping problem

2010-02-22 Thread Bill Connelly
On Feb 22, 2010, at 7:45 PM, Jason tar wrote: Do excuse me if this is problem has been addressed before, but my PowerMac G4 MDD 867MHZ 10.4 512 MB RAM does not sleep correctly sometimes. Most of the time, it will sleep fine with the power button fading, but other times the hard drive and f

G4 with sleeping problem

2010-02-22 Thread Jason tar
Do excuse me if this is problem has been addressed before, but my PowerMac G4 MDD 867MHZ 10.4 512 MB RAM does not sleep correctly sometimes. Most of the time, it will sleep fine with the power button fading, but other times the hard drive and fans spin down and video shut down but the light up f

Re: Proof that Apple could not have dropped ADB support in Tiger and Leo

2010-02-22 Thread James Therrault
On Feb 22, 2010, at 12:40 PM, Da'Birdman wrote: Yep, Kasey! Supported or not, I'm using a Apple Design Keyboard on this post with an iMate on a Mac Mini Intel running Snow Leopard. I much prefer the ADB Keyboards, especially this one. OTOH, never found an ADB mouse that I really liked. . .

Re: Large HD in a Sawtooth

2010-02-22 Thread Dennis Myhand
Thanks, Kris and Stewie for the answers I was looking for. Kris Tilford wrote: On Feb 22, 2010, at 5:20 PM, Dale Hoffman wrote: I just acquired a 320 GB HD for my Sawtooth FrankenMac. I know there is a 128 GB limit on drive size. What do I need to do to use the whole drive? Use an enabler

Re: Proof that Apple could not have dropped ADB support in Tiger and Leo

2010-02-22 Thread Kris Tilford
On Feb 22, 2010, at 4:28 PM, James Therrault wrote: I've been lurking on this thread and always thought that indeed, G4 powerbooks had internal ADB even though it does not show up in "About This Mac" hardware listings. I have a 1.25GHz PB that dates from 2003. I agree. I've always though

RE: Large HD in a Sawtooth

2010-02-22 Thread Stewie de Young
> Hi Folks: > > I just acquired a 320 GB HD for my Sawtooth FrankenMac. I know there is > a 128 GB limit on drive size. What do I need to do to use the whole > drive? Is there a free disk utility which will let me use the whole > drive? Even if I set it up with three partitions, that woul

Re: Proof that Apple could not have dropped ADB support in Tiger and Leo

2010-02-22 Thread James Therrault
On Feb 22, 2010, at 2:45 PM, J.M.P.Hissel wrote: On 22-02-2010 03:38, Bob Whiton, m...@rswhiton.com, wrote: Wrong. My 2004 iBook only has USB and Firewire. I've never seen a G4 Mac with ADB. You are right about the G4 iBooks. But you are wrong about the G4 PowerBooks!! Up to the PB G4 17"

Re: Large HD in a Sawtooth

2010-02-22 Thread Kris Tilford
On Feb 22, 2010, at 5:20 PM, Dale Hoffman wrote: I just acquired a 320 GB HD for my Sawtooth FrankenMac. I know there is a 128 GB limit on drive size. What do I need to do to use the whole drive? Use an enabler for LBA48 support or do the firmware patch. One method is to use Intech's sol

Re: Large HD in a Sawtooth

2010-02-22 Thread Dale Hoffman
On Feb 22, 2010, at 5:57 PM, Dennis Myhand wrote: Hi Folks: I just acquired a 320 GB HD for my Sawtooth FrankenMac. I know there is a 128 GB limit on drive size. What do I need to do to use the whole drive? Is there a free disk utility which will let me use the whole drive? Even if I

Re: Proof that Apple could not have dropped ADB support in Tiger and Leo

2010-02-22 Thread Mike Linnett
On 22 Feb 2010, at 21:57, JOHN CARMONNE wrote: On Feb 22, 2010, at 12:45 PM, J.M.P.Hissel wrote: On 22-02-2010 03:38, Bob Whiton, m...@rswhiton.com, wrote: Wrong. My 2004 iBook only has USB and Firewire. I've never seen a G4 Mac with ADB. You are right about the G4 iBooks. But you ar

Re: Proof that Apple could not have dropped ADB support in Tiger and Leo

2010-02-22 Thread Clark Martin
On 2/22/10 10:13 AM, Kelly Harding wrote: My 2005 iBook G4 seems to be a mix of ADB and USB internally it would seem, the trackpad registers as USB, but theres ADBKeyboard and ADBButtons extensions loaded (guessing for the trackpad button and keyboard). I'm not certain but I'm pretty sure that

Large HD in a Sawtooth

2010-02-22 Thread Dennis Myhand
Hi Folks: I just acquired a 320 GB HD for my Sawtooth FrankenMac. I know there is a 128 GB limit on drive size. What do I need to do to use the whole drive? Is there a free disk utility which will let me use the whole drive? Even if I set it up with three partitions, that would be okay. I

Re: Need for list message morphing rule

2010-02-22 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 9:13 PM, Kyle Hansen wrote: > On 2/22/10 11:51 AM, "Wallace Adrian D'Alessio" > wrote: > > And why the moderators don't press joining the LEMlists group is a mystery. > > > > > The moderators have a ton of issues to deal with.  A message can turn into a > different theme a

Re: Better GPU for G4 Digi Audio?

2010-02-22 Thread Eric Volker
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 1:02 PM, dc wrote: > On Feb 21, 3:59 pm, "Michael G.M." wrote: > > I've done a little cleaning and GPU swapping in my dear old DA. > > > > The first card I was using was the ATi retail AGP card that I liked, > > but it's way slow for Leo, but is great for Panther and OS 9

Re: Proof that Apple could not have dropped ADB support in Tiger and Leo

2010-02-22 Thread JOHN CARMONNE
On Feb 22, 2010, at 12:45 PM, J.M.P.Hissel wrote: On 22-02-2010 03:38, Bob Whiton, m...@rswhiton.com, wrote: Wrong. My 2004 iBook only has USB and Firewire. I've never seen a G4 Mac with ADB. You are right about the G4 iBooks. But you are wrong about the G4 PowerBooks!! Up to the PB G4 17

Re: Need for list message morphing rule

2010-02-22 Thread John Musbach
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Jonas Lopez wrote: > For what it is worth, I know nothing of any sort of LEMLIST and hope not to > need to. Well then, it'd be wise to read and understand http://lowendmac.com/lists/lemlists.html so that you don't make the same mistake Jonas did. -- Best Regar

Re: Need for list message morphing rule

2010-02-22 Thread Jonas Lopez
> >> Point taken John. But I could swear each list had a set of rules that > >> allowed rule discussion as legit content of discussion. and you would be exactly correct! > > Rule discussion is rarely legit and usually ignored. and you would also be exactly correct! > > I cannot agree with eit

Re: Need for list message morphing rule

2010-02-22 Thread Kyle Hansen
On 2/22/10 11:51 AM, "Wallace Adrian D'Alessio" wrote: > And why the moderators don't press joining the LEMlists group is a mystery. > > > > The moderators have a ton of issues to deal with. A message can turn into a different theme as can a conversation. We let it go until it becomes compl

Re: Apple jack message

2010-02-22 Thread gifutiger
Greetings It seams to me that I had this problem many years ago. Check your Console log to see if you have a PCI-USB card not responding correctly. Could be one or more ports. I fixed my problem by removing the card. That PCI-USB card worked just fine in a WINTEL machine. Cheers Harry San Jose,

Re: Need for list message morphing rule

2010-02-22 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 8:43 PM, Dan wrote: > At 7:51 PM + 2/22/2010, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: >> >> Point taken John. But I could swear each list had a set of rules that >> allowed rule discussion as legit content of discussion. > > Rule discussion is rarely legit and usually ignored.

Re: Proof that Apple could not have dropped ADB support in Tiger and Leo

2010-02-22 Thread J.M.P.Hissel
On 22-02-2010 03:38, Bob Whiton, m...@rswhiton.com, wrote: > Wrong. My 2004 iBook only has USB and Firewire. I've never seen a > G4 Mac with ADB. You are right about the G4 iBooks. But you are wrong about the G4 PowerBooks!! Up to the PB G4 17" 1.5GHz "Q41A", all the G4 PB's had an internal ADB

Re: Hidden Remote Webcam activation is it in Firmware, HD, or PRAM?

2010-02-22 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 2:43 AM, wrote: > > I think we have a better understanding. Go fish somewhere else. Warm > regards, Rt _ Jailhouse flashback ? I really don't think you understand Jonas. -- Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer fluxstrin...@gma

Re: Need for list message morphing rule

2010-02-22 Thread Dan
At 7:51 PM + 2/22/2010, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: Point taken John. But I could swear each list had a set of rules that allowed rule discussion as legit content of discussion. Rule discussion is rarely legit and usually ignored. The LEMlists list is basically a blackhole. *shrug* -

Re: My favorite powerpc G- computer

2010-02-22 Thread Nicholas Fantuzzi
2010/2/22 dc > On Feb 20, 2:54 am, Mark Sokolovsky wrote: > >The G4 cube is sleek, cool, and it runs leopard. > > I can load it up with 2GB of ram, and a 1.42Ghz Dual G4 processor. > > It sounds more like a G4 Mac Mini, > no way, the Mac Mini PPC can mount ram up to 1GB! Nicholas -- You rece

Re: Hidden Remote Webcam activation is it in Firmware, HD, or PRAM?

2010-02-22 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 6:25 PM, JOHN CARMONNE wrote: > > On Feb 21, 2010, at 9:59 AM, Dan wrote: > >> At 9:17 AM -0800 2/21/2010, John Carmonne wrote: >>> >>>  >> Whenever you get your paws on a used computer or HD, ERASE the HD! >>>  > Please erase the hard drive before Dan explodes! >>> >>> You

Re: Need for list message morphing rule

2010-02-22 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 7:03 PM, John Musbach wrote: > > > You are incorrect, please refer to lowendmac.com/lists/lemlists.html. > ___ If I may further make comment here without further ticking anyone off, it is interesting that the LEMlists gro

Re: Need for list message morphing rule

2010-02-22 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 7:03 PM, John Musbach wrote: > On 2/22/10, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 5:06 AM, John Musbach >wrote: > > > >> On 2/21/10, Jonas Lopez wrote: > >> > Need for list message morphing rule > >> > > >> > Since I am the author of a post that has

Re: Need for list message morphing rule

2010-02-22 Thread John Musbach
On 2/22/10, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: > On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 5:06 AM, John Musbach wrote: > >> On 2/21/10, Jonas Lopez wrote: >> > Need for list message morphing rule >> > >> > Since I am the author of a post that has now morphed into an entirely >> > inappropriate commentary on how to k

Re: Better GPU for G4 Digi Audio?

2010-02-22 Thread dc
On Feb 21, 3:59 pm, "Michael G.M." wrote: > I've done a little cleaning and GPU swapping in my dear old DA. > > The first card I was using was the ATi retail AGP card that I liked, > but it's way slow for Leo, but is great for Panther and OS 9. Now I've > switched back to my Geforce4 ti 4600 that

Re: Need for list message morphing rule

2010-02-22 Thread John Musbach
On 2/22/10, Jonas Lopez wrote: > --- On Mon, 2/22/10, Dan wrote: >> From: Dan >> Subject: Re: Need for list message morphing rule >> To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com >> Date: Monday, February 22, 2010, 9:32 AM >> At 12:06 AM -0500 2/22/2010, John Musbach wrote: >> >On 2/21/10, Jonas Lopez wrote:

Re: My favorite powerpc G- computer

2010-02-22 Thread dc
On Feb 20, 2:54 am, Mark Sokolovsky wrote: >The G4 cube is sleek, cool, and it runs leopard. > I can load it up with 2GB of ram, and a 1.42Ghz Dual G4 processor. It sounds more like a G4 Mac Mini, the G4 Cube was offerred as a single 450 MHz or 500 MHz processor with up to 1.5 GB RAM. The G4 mini

Re: Need for list message morphing rule

2010-02-22 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 5:06 AM, John Musbach wrote: > On 2/21/10, Jonas Lopez wrote: > > Need for list message morphing rule > > > > Since I am the author of a post that has now morphed into an entirely > > inappropriate commentary on how to kill a hd, and since this list is > always > > monitor

Re: Proof that Apple could not have dropped ADB support in Tiger and Leo

2010-02-22 Thread Da'Birdman
Yep, Kasey! Supported or not, I'm using a Apple Design Keyboard on this post with an iMate on a Mac Mini Intel running Snow Leopard. I much prefer the ADB Keyboards, especially this one. OTOH, never found an ADB mouse that I really liked. . . Scott Birdwell DeFalco's Home Wine & Beer Supplies H

Re: Proof that Apple could not have dropped ADB support in Tiger and Leo

2010-02-22 Thread Kelly Harding
My 2005 iBook G4 seems to be a mix of ADB and USB internally it would seem, the trackpad registers as USB, but theres ADBKeyboard and ADBButtons extensions loaded (guessing for the trackpad button and keyboard). kelly -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for

Re: Need for list message morphing rule

2010-02-22 Thread Jonas Lopez
--- On Mon, 2/22/10, Dan wrote: > From: Dan > Subject: Re: Need for list message morphing rule > To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com > Date: Monday, February 22, 2010, 9:32 AM > At 12:06 AM -0500 2/22/2010, John Musbach wrote: > >On 2/21/10, Jonas Lopez wrote: > >>  Need for list message morphing rul

Re: DVI TO VGA MONITOR CONNECTIONS

2010-02-22 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Feb 22, 2010, at 9:46 AM, stevo137 wrote: I just purchased a mac display monitor. It has the right dvi connector on it, but the powerpc, a G4 mac has a different female connector on the back for DVI. Can I buy an adaptor to connect it to the vga? Or do i change the dvi conected to cable on m

Re: Apple jack message

2010-02-22 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Feb 22, 2010, at 10:33 AM, Norm Rowe wrote: I have a G4 gigabit mac desktop tower with Os 10.5.8 with a 1 gz sonnet processor and 2 gigs of ram. Apple Jack reports { 41 9184483 UniNEnet:: restartReceiver} and it is in pinl letters and repeats over and over until I push the enter key. A

Apple jack message

2010-02-22 Thread Norm Rowe
I have a G4 gigabit mac desktop tower with Os 10.5.8 with a 1 gz sonnet processor and 2 gigs of ram. Apple Jack reports { 41 9184483 UniNEnet:: restartReceiver} and it is in pinl letters and repeats over and over until I push the enter key. Anyone know what this means and how to correct what e

Re: Need for list message morphing rule

2010-02-22 Thread Dan
At 12:06 AM -0500 2/22/2010, John Musbach wrote: On 2/21/10, Jonas Lopez wrote: Need for list message morphing rule Since I am the author of a post that has now morphed into an entirely inappropriate commentary on how to kill a hd, and since this list is always monitored and those Niamey's

Re: Need for list message morphing rule

2010-02-22 Thread Dan
At 3:19 PM -0800 2/21/2010, Jonas Lopez wrote: Need for list message morphing rule Since I am the author of a post that has now morphed into an entirely inappropriate commentary on how to kill a hd, Threads drift - just like most communications between human beings. Get over it. We gave y

Re: 17" inch hinge gap?

2010-02-22 Thread Carmonne
In a message dated 2/22/10 7:06:40 AM, onecoolka...@earthlink.net writes: > >    I have seen on ebay about replacing these hinges using some kind of > glue for when they break and you replace them with new ones... This is a very > weak area in design on these computers, maybe who ever replace

Re: 17" inch hinge gap?

2010-02-22 Thread Richard Gerome
Title: 17" inch hinge gap?    I have seen on ebay about replacing these hinges using some kind of glue for when they break and you replace them with new ones... This is a very weak area in design on these computers, maybe who ever replaced it didn't do it right??? I have to replace the LCD screen i

Re: Hidden Remote Webcam activation is it in Firmware, HD, or PRAM?

2010-02-22 Thread Dan
At 11:49 PM -0600 2/21/2010, Bill Christensen wrote: At 5:01 PM -0500 2/21/10, Samuel Macomber wrote: with a sledgehammer.Actually I usually take the drive apart, those magnets work great on the fridge. Than smash the remains. Found laptop drive are the best for protecting your data, the

Re: Proof that Apple could not have dropped ADB support in Tiger and Leo

2010-02-22 Thread Kasey Smith
On Feb 21, 2010, at 11:36 PM, Mike Linnett wrote: Also, for what it's worth, my blue and white g3 running tiger works just fine with an apple extended keyboard (possibly 2) plugged into it's adb port. Same for me with both an ADB Keyboard II, ADB Mouse II and Apple Design Keyboard. --