Kernel panic? why?

2009-10-20 Thread Jeffrey Engle
System Configuration Model: PowerMac7,3, BootROM 5.2.4f1, 2 processors, PowerPC G5 (3.1), 2.3 GHz, 5 GB Graphics: kHW_ATIrv351leItem, ATY,RV351, spdisplays_agp_device, 128 MB Memory Module: DIMM0/J11, 1 GB, DDR SDRAM, PC3200U-30440 Memory Module: DIMM1/J12, 1 GB, DDR SDRAM, PC3200U-30440 Me

RE: Kernel panic? why?

2009-10-20 Thread Stewie de Young
until all your Ram passes. Slowly introduce your PCI cards and peripherals back into the computer and use it for a while to see if the problem persists. Sometimes it is just a long process of elimination. Stewie From: macgu...@gmail.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Kernel panic? why? Dat

Re: Kernel panic? why?

2009-10-21 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Oct 20, 2009, at 11:34 AM, Jeffrey Engle wrote: > > here's the report... anybody got a clue? > > Interval Since Last Panic Report: 580133 sec > Panics Since Last Report: 1 > Anonymous UUID:10C6C46F-CE7C-477C-92F8- > FC97D168236F > > Tue Oct 20 11:26:14 2009 > >

Re: Kernel panic? why?

2009-10-21 Thread Jeffrey Engle
On Oct 21, 2009, at 8:57 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: > > > On Oct 20, 2009, at 11:34 AM, Jeffrey Engle wrote: > >> >> here's the report... anybody got a clue? >> >> Interval Since Last Panic Report: 580133 sec >> Panics Since Last Report: 1 >> Anonymous UUID:10C6C46F-C

Re: Kernel panic? why?

2009-10-21 Thread Dan
At 8:57 AM -0700 10/21/2009, Bruce Johnson wrote: >On Oct 20, 2009, at 11:34 AM, Jeffrey Engle wrote: > > Tue Oct 20 11:26:14 2009 > > BSD process name corresponding to current thread: rsync > >One-off KP's do happen, but looking at the time since the last panic >(6 days) and the thread running

Re: Kernel panic? why?

2009-10-21 Thread Jeffrey Engle
On Oct 21, 2009, at 8:57 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: > One-off KP's do happen, but looking at the time since the last panic > (6 days) and the thread running (rsync) Was your mac doing a backup > with CCC, SuperDuper or Rsync? > > Can you reproduce the error by running the software you were running

Re: Kernel panic? why?

2009-10-21 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Oct 21, 2009, at 10:34 AM, Jeffrey Engle wrote: > After unplugging > everything, yup, started right up fine and fast. after about two hours > of testing, I found that the timeouts believe it or not, were coming > from a "Speedzter 5" enclosure that I have a superdrive in. It seems > that the

Re: Kernel panic? why?

2009-10-21 Thread James Therrault
On Oct 21, 2009, at 2:03 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: > > > I've had a rash of "weird errors with ^...@#%@$ Firewire Boxes" lately. > > A professor just had his Iomega external drive cause OS X to be unable > to launch anything after it's plugged in. Weird. All the programs > running *before* you plu

Re: Kernel panic? why?

2009-10-22 Thread Jeffrey Engle
On Oct 20, 2009, at 3:30 PM, Stewie de Young wrote: > The best way is to eliminate all unknowns by removing all your > plugged in gear - PCI cards , peripherals etc and start from a very > basic machine. > Then I would download and run "Memtest ". > Problems if any with Ram modules will appea

Re: Kernel panic? why?

2009-10-22 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Oct 22, 2009, at 11:50 AM, Jeffrey Engle wrote: > > Now.. after I thought I'd fixed the problem last night by > disconnecting my firewire device, this morning... the same blue > screen... now sometimes stupid I am, realized and thought of this > question.. if the computer boots fine from the

Re: Kernel panic? why?

2009-10-22 Thread Jeffrey Engle
On Oct 22, 2009, at 12:51 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: > Uhh "C" drive? I mean, starting it up via the super-drive and Tiger/Leopard install disk. (holding down the C key) sorry. J --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group

Re: Kernel panic? why?

2009-10-22 Thread Jeffrey Engle
On Oct 22, 2009, at 12:51 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: > If it *STILL* KP's after that, you have a hardware fault. I wonder when Apple will make a computer that "just tells me" what's the matter with it? Or just hollers at me, "Hey, buddy! that firewire device you just plugged in ain't gonna wo

Re: Kernel panic? why?

2009-10-22 Thread glen
- Original Message > From: Jeffrey Engle > > If it *STILL* KP's after that, you have a hardware fault. > > I wonder when Apple will make a computer that "just tells me" what's > the matter with it? Or just hollers at me, "Hey, buddy! that firewire > device you just plugged in a

Re: Kernel panic? why?

2009-10-22 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Oct 22, 2009, at 2:47 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote: > On Oct 22, 2009, at 12:51 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: > >> If it *STILL* KP's after that, you have a hardware fault. > > I wonder when Apple will make a computer that "just tells me" what's > the matter with it? Seriously, it's because of the nat

Re: Kernel panic? why?

2009-10-23 Thread dorayme
> Date: Thurs, Oct 22 2009 5:15 pm > From: Bruce Johnson > > On Oct 22, 2009, at 2:47 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote: > >> On Oct 22, 2009, at 12:51 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: >> >>> If it *STILL* KP's after that, you have a hardware fault. >> >> I wonder when Apple will make a computer that "just tells me

Re: Kernel panic? why?

2009-10-24 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Oct 23, 2009, at 5:28 PM, dorayme wrote: > But surely *just* before it does this, it knows it is going to do > this That would be where the thiotimoline bit comes in...google it. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not ha

Re: Kernel panic? why?

2009-10-24 Thread dorayme
> TOPIC: Kernel panic? why? > http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list/t/3f6b58de1e6e93ee?hl=en > == > > > == 1 of 1 == > Date: Sat, Oct 24 2009 12:02 pm > From: Bruce Johnson > > On Oct

Re: Kernel panic? why?

2009-10-24 Thread Len Gerstel
On Oct 24, 2009, at 7:28 PM, dorayme wrote: >> > > The thiotimoline bit I understand. Translated, you are possibly > saying, it is logically impossible to do X. Not sure how to google > for why an instruction that cannot be executed makes it impossible to > design the OS to say as much. Lacking

Re: Kernel panic? why?

2009-10-24 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Oct 24, 2009, at 4:28 PM, dorayme wrote: > . Lacking a good model, I guess. Is it > like someone falls into a sound proof black hole suddenly and cannot > message anything? Pretty much. The Google article about 'kernel panic' does explain things; the idea is to stop the computer from doing

Re: Kernel panic? why?

2009-10-26 Thread dorayme
> Date: Sat, Oct 24 2009 7:11 pm > From: Len Gerstel > > > > On Oct 24, 2009, at 7:28 PM, dorayme wrote: > >>> >> >> The thiotimoline bit I understand. Translated, you are possibly >> saying, it is logically impossible to do X. Not sure how to google >> for why an instruction that cannot be execut