MDD G4 Leopard native OS 9 boot

2013-02-16 Thread Click
I saw a thread a while back (here)https://groups.google.com/forum/m/?fromgroups#!topic/macos9/omLso5j1dkU about OS 9 native boot on a FW800 MDD machine. I just acquired one of these and am curious if anyone got it to work. I very much need a native OS9 boot machine. Is the workaround

Re: MDD G4 Leopard native OS 9 boot

2013-02-16 Thread Alex Sciortino
IIRC MDDs don't support OS9. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at

Re: MDD G4 Leopard native OS 9 boot

2013-02-16 Thread John Carmonne
On Feb 16, 2013, at 9:49 AM, Alex Sciortino wrote: IIRC MDDs don't support OS9. -- -- MDD F/W800's don't boot OS9, The FW/400 does. John Carmonne Broadway Mfg Inc. broadway...@gmail.com 714 335 6925 -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for

Re: MDD G4 Leopard native OS 9 boot

2013-02-16 Thread Tom Singleton
Yes, that is the point. They are not supposed to and don't as a standard, but if you look at the thread, it has evidently been done with a fairly simple workaround. That goes to the nature of my query. On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 9:49 AM, Alex Sciortino zeosr...@gmail.com wrote: IIRC MDDs don't

Re: MDD G4 Leopard native OS 9 boot

2013-02-16 Thread Kris Tilford
skeptical of these reports of booting OS 9 on FW800 or G5. This ability to boot will be set in firmware I believe. The ONLY plausible report I read was the possibility that Apple gave alternate firmware to developers that had the ability to boot OS 9; or that someone hacked the firmware

Re: MDD G4 Leopard native OS 9 boot

2013-02-16 Thread John Carmonne
On Feb 16, 2013, at 11:47 AM, Kris Tilford wrote: On Feb 16, 2013, at 10:28 AM, Click wrote: I very much need a native OS9 boot machine. Why won't Classic suffice? In my case I use a CAD/CAM program $15,000.00 that incorporates a Rainbow hardware dongle that requires OS9 boots the Eve

Re: MDD G4 Leopard native OS 9 boot

2013-02-16 Thread Click
Thanks for the response, Kris *Why won't Classic suffice? * I have done everything that I know to get a program to run in Classic using a mini G4, but it does not perform certain critical output (file write and report generation) functions. My understanding is that there are certain

Re: MDD G4 Leopard native OS 9 boot

2013-02-16 Thread Kris Tilford
, RainbowUSBSHim are located in the OS 9 extensions folder, and the Eve3.framework from the OS X Sentinel Driver installer package is installed for OS X. This may work for you? See here: http://forums.newtek.com/archive/index.php/t-13857.html -- -- You received this message because you

Re: MDD G4 Leopard native OS 9 boot

2013-02-16 Thread Kris Tilford
On Feb 16, 2013, at 2:39 PM, Click wrote: Why won't Classic suffice? I have done everything that I know to get a program to run in Classic using a mini G4, but it does not perform certain critical output (file write and report generation) functions. My understanding is that there are

Re: MDD G4 Leopard native OS 9 boot

2013-02-16 Thread David W. Morris
I also have some Avid Audio/Video equipment and software that will only work with a native OS9 booting Mac computer, which is why I am keeping my dual 1.25GHz G4 PowerMac (upgraded to dual 1.42GHz G4 CPU module from the FW800 G4), even though I also have my dual 2.7GHz G5 PowerMac. The 8

Re: MDD G4 Leopard native OS 9 boot

2013-02-16 Thread David W. Morris
, but a company that was founded here in Topeka, NewTek, uses these dongles for their LightWave software, and they have a way to use LightWave in Classic as long as the USBSentinel, RainbowUSBSHim are located in the OS 9 extensions folder, and the Eve3.framework from the OS X Sentinel Driver

Re: MDD G4 Leopard native OS 9 boot

2013-02-16 Thread Click
Yes, I understand, but usually the problem is a hardware issue rather than a software issue. Well, the behavior is interesting. The total report as printed on an OS 9 G3 should be, let's say, 4 pages: 3 detail sheets followed without interruption or intervention, by a summary page

Re: G3 BLUE WHITE WILL NOT LOAD OS 9

2012-06-15 Thread Jonas Lopez
wrote: From: Jonas Lopez jonaslo...@yahoo.com Subject: G3 BLUE WHITE WILL NOT LOAD OS 9 To: G3 G5 List g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, June 13, 2012, 9:36 PM G3 BLUE WHITE WILL NOT LOAD OS 9 from CD, does clear the screen and puts up the arrow and that is all. I have this memory

G3 BLUE WHITE WILL NOT LOAD OS 9

2012-06-14 Thread Jonas Lopez
G3 BLUE WHITE WILL NOT LOAD OS 9 from CD, does clear the screen and puts up the arrow and that is all. I have this memory stick Micron 128MB PC100 SDRAM 168-pin DIMM PC100-322-620 in slot 3. It appears that slot 0 is defective, got 3 bongs when it is in slot 0, but none when in slot 3

Re: G3 BLUE WHITE WILL NOT LOAD OS 9

2012-06-14 Thread Valter Prahlad
Il giorno 14-06-2012 6:36, Jonas Lopez ha scritto: G3 BLUE WHITE WILL NOT LOAD OS 9 from CD, does clear the screen and puts up the arrow and that is all. I have this memory stick Micron 128MB PC100 SDRAM 168-pin DIMM PC100-322-620 in slot 3. It appears that slot 0 is defective, got 3 bongs

Re: G3 BLUE WHITE WILL NOT LOAD OS 9

2012-06-14 Thread Cameron Kaiser
Is 128MB enough to run OS9? Why does it start to load, but stops? OS 9 CD is know to be good. What did you test it on? What version of OS 9 (though all should work on a Yosemite)? Do you get a happy Mac? Valter's other suggestions are also important to try

Re: G3 BLUE WHITE WILL NOT LOAD OS 9

2012-06-14 Thread Mac User #330250
-- Original message -- Subject: G3 BLUE WHITE WILL NOT LOAD OS 9 Date:Thursday, 14. June 2012 From:Jonas Lopez jonaslo...@yahoo.com To: G3 G5 List g3-5-list@googlegroups.com G3 BLUE WHITE WILL NOT LOAD OS 9 from CD, does clear the screen and puts up the arrow

Re: G4 dual boot flat screen iMac won't boot into OS 9

2011-01-10 Thread John Carmonne
On Jan 9, 2011, at 6:30 PM, Jane, (Portland, OR) wrote: On Jan 6, 6:42 am, John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com wrote: On Jan 6, 2011, at 6:34 AM, Geke wrote: Jane, do you have a backup image of your system? What you write sounds like it's damaged: 1. the OS 9 drivers are there and I have

Re: G4 dual boot flat screen iMac won't boot into OS 9

2011-01-09 Thread Jane, (Portland, OR)
On Jan 6, 6:42 am, John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com wrote: On Jan 6, 2011, at 6:34 AM, Geke wrote: Jane, do you have a backup image of your system? What you write sounds like it's damaged: 1. the OS 9 drivers are there and I have started up in 9 before. But it will NOT start up in 9 now

Re: G4 dual boot flat screen iMac won't boot into OS 9

2011-01-08 Thread John Carmonne
On Jan 6, 2011, at 6:34 AM, Geke wrote: Jane, do you have a backup image of your system? What you write sounds like it's damaged: 1. the OS 9 drivers are there and I have started up in 9 before. But it will NOT start up in 9 now. I even had to run Disk Warrior to get it back to boot

Re: G4 dual boot flat screen iMac won't boot into OS 9

2011-01-06 Thread Geke
Jane, do you have a backup image of your system? What you write sounds like it's damaged: 1. the OS 9 drivers are there and I have started up in 9 before. But it will NOT start up in 9 now. I even had to run Disk Warrior to get it back to boot in 10.4. Everything else is working just fine. 2. I

Re: G4 dual boot flat screen iMac won't boot into OS 9

2011-01-04 Thread Jane, (Portland, OR)
To make this easier, I am going to reply to each of you in this one email. The problem: I have a G4 flat screen iMac (the kind with the half ball on the bottom) that is supposed to boot into OS 9 and X. I am running 10.4.11. I tried booting into 9 and it won't do it. Classic will run OK, though

G4 dual boot flat screen iMac won't boot into OS 9

2011-01-02 Thread Jane, (Portland, OR)
I have a G4 flat screen iMac (the kind with the half ball on the bottom) that is supposed to boot into OS 9 and X. I am running 10.4.11. I tried booting into 9 and it won't do it. Classic will run OK, though. Somehow it is screwed up somewhere. I need to boot up in 9 to retrieve some stuff off

Re: G4 dual boot flat screen iMac won't boot into OS 9

2011-01-02 Thread Daggett Ken
On 2 Jan 2011, at 21:01:51 PST, Jane, (Portland, OR) wrote: I have a G4 flat screen iMac (the kind with the half ball on the bottom) that is supposed to boot into OS 9 and X. I am running 10.4.11. I tried booting into 9 and it won't do it. Classic will run OK, though. Somehow it is screwed up

Re: G4 dual boot flat screen iMac won't boot into OS 9

2011-01-02 Thread John Carmonne
On Jan 2, 2011, at 9:01 PM, Jane, (Portland, OR) wrote: I have a G4 flat screen iMac (the kind with the half ball on the bottom) that is supposed to boot into OS 9 and X. I am running 10.4.11. I tried booting into 9 and it won't do it. Classic will run OK, though. Somehow it is screwed up

Re: G4 dual boot flat screen iMac won't boot into OS 9

2011-01-02 Thread John Carmonne
On Jan 2, 2011, at 9:01 PM, Jane, (Portland, OR) wrote: I have a G4 flat screen iMac (the kind with the half ball on the bottom) that is supposed to boot into OS 9 and X. I am running 10.4.11. I tried booting into 9 and it won't do it. Classic will run OK, though. Somehow it is screwed up

Re: G4 dual boot flat screen iMac won't boot into OS 9

2011-01-02 Thread Kris Tilford
On Jan 2, 2011, at 11:01 PM, Jane, (Portland, OR) wrote: I need to boot up in 9 to retrieve some stuff off of a floppy disk. This makes no sense. There is no floppy disc drive in any G4 iMac, and any external USB floppy disc drive works in OS X, not OS 9. This means you don't need to boot

Re: OS 9 Apps on G5

2010-08-04 Thread John Carmonne
On Aug 3, 2010, at 12:07 PM, Mark Sokolovsky wrote: Yeah, like I said there is almost no way you'll be able to get OS 9 to work on a G5. Even if you install on a G4 or a G3 and transplant the HDD to a G5, it still won't boor because a G5 is 64-bit, and OS 9 only has 32 bit code in it. Try

Re: OS 9 Apps on G5

2010-08-03 Thread Illirik Smirnov
to run some old Apps like Hypercard and Final Cut Pro 2.0 on this machine. Do I need to install OS 9? Is this possible? Thanks Yes, 10.4 will support OS9 classic (10.5 won't) so you'll need to instal OS9. Ted -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group

Re: OS 9 Apps on G5

2010-08-03 Thread Mark Sokolovsky
Yeah, like I said there is almost no way you'll be able to get OS 9 to work on a G5. Even if you install on a G4 or a G3 and transplant the HDD to a G5, it still won't boor because a G5 is 64-bit, and OS 9 only has 32 bit code in it. Try it, but no guarantee. Try CCC. --  From Mark's PM G4

OS 9 Apps on G5

2010-08-02 Thread Les
Hi, I just received a PowerPC G5 1.8 DP desktop tower running OS X 10.4.11. I would like to run some old Apps like Hypercard and Final Cut Pro 2.0 on this machine. Do I need to install OS 9? Is this possible? Thanks -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group

Re: OS 9 Apps on G5

2010-08-02 Thread Ted Treen
Les wrote: Hi, I just received a PowerPC G5 1.8 DP desktop tower running OS X 10.4.11. I would like to run some old Apps like Hypercard and Final Cut Pro 2.0 on this machine. Do I need to install OS 9? Is this possible? Thanks Yes, 10.4 will support OS9 classic (10.5 won't) so you'll need

Re: What was the last Mac to natively run OS 9?

2010-05-15 Thread JoeTaxpayer
- From: coolr...@comcast.net Sent: May 14, 2010 3:54 PM To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: What was the last Mac to natively run OS 9? I want to know which was the last Mac to be able to boot into OS9   regardless of what it shipped with. I think someone answered that   though

Re: What was the last Mac to natively run OS 9?

2010-05-15 Thread Mac User #330250
-- Original message -- Subject: What was the last Mac to natively run OS 9? Date:Freitag 14 Mai 2010N From:coolr...@comcast.net To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com The subject pretty much asks the question. Also, which Mac last shipped with OS9? Wad it a G4? G3

Re: What was the last Mac to natively run OS 9?

2010-05-15 Thread Mac User #330250
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: What was the last Mac to natively run OS 9? Date:Samstag 15 Mai 2010N From:Mac User #330250 macuser330...@gmx.net To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com That said, I'm not sure if these models (up to the QS) actually shipped with Mac OS

Re: What was the last Mac to natively run OS 9?

2010-05-15 Thread t...@io.com
I haven't seen the iMac discussed, although I may have overlooked it. The last iMac to boot into OS9 was an iLamp. The G4/800 MHz, 17 LCD model and 15 LCD models. There was a nearly identical 17 iLamp model which does not boot OS9. The one that does is modelM8812LL/A. It shipped with an

Re: What was the last Mac to natively run OS 9?

2010-05-14 Thread coolrays
I want to know which was the last Mac to be able to boot into OS9 regardless of what it shipped with. I think someone answered that though. Rick On May 14, 2010, at 12:05 AM, Richard Gerome wrote: Are you asking when the last computer came out with ONLY OS 9 without OS 10

Re: What was the last Mac to natively run OS 9?

2010-05-14 Thread Richard Gerome
??? -Original Message- From: coolr...@comcast.net Sent: May 14, 2010 3:54 PM To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: What was the last Mac to natively run OS 9? I want to know which was the last Mac to be able to boot into OS9 regardless of what it shipped with. I think someone answered

Re: What was the last Mac to natively run OS 9?

2010-05-14 Thread Jason Brown
I think he means natively BOOT OS 9. There are a couple of machines, and correct me if I am wrong on this. But the newest machine that will BOOT OS 9 would be the MDD based G4 powermac with standard Airport. The Airport Extreme model will not booth OS 9 and even on the one with the standard

RE: What was the last Mac to natively run OS 9?

2010-05-14 Thread Stewie de Young
I think he means natively BOOT OS 9. There are a couple of machines, and correct me if I am wrong on this. But the newest machine that will BOOT OS 9 would be the MDD based G4 powermac with standard Airport. The Airport Extreme model will not booth OS 9 and even on the one

What was the last Mac to natively run OS 9?

2010-05-13 Thread coolrays
The subject pretty much asks the question. Also, which Mac last shipped with OS9? Wad it a G4? G3? r -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at

Re: What was the last Mac to natively run OS 9?

2010-05-13 Thread Dennis Myhand
coolr...@comcast.net wrote: The subject pretty much asks the question. Also, which Mac last shipped with OS9? Wad it a G4? G3? r I remember working at a school in Texas (Willie Nelson's home town) and we received a new G-3 iMac in Red running OS9. That was in April of 2001. I think the

Re: What was the last Mac to natively run OS 9?

2010-05-13 Thread Kris Tilford
You can use MacTracker to find these answers yourself. PowerMac G4 MDD iBook G3 900MHz 32MB VRAM PowerBook G4 1GHz -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at

Re: What was the last Mac to natively run OS 9?

2010-05-13 Thread Bruce Johnson
On May 13, 2010, at 3:54 PM, coolr...@comcast.net wrote: The subject pretty much asks the question. After the G5's came out, Apple released a revised MDD model that booted into a special-for-this-model-only version of OS 9.2.2. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy

Re: What was the last Mac to natively run OS 9?

2010-05-13 Thread Richard Gerome
Are you asking when the last computer came out with ONLY OS 9 without OS 10??? Or when they stopped putting OS 9 in them??? If it is the last with only OS 9 I would have to say maybe the end of 2000, because this is when I got it for my Clamshell when it first came out it was OS 10

Re: What was the last Mac to natively run OS 9?

2010-05-13 Thread Richard Gerome
I made a mistake it was the end of 2001 I got that OS 10 disc... So I would have to say the G3 iBooks and iMacs were the last to just come with OS 9 (or somewhere in the middle of the G3's before the G4's) then I think they started to come dual boot 9 and 10 with Classic after that but I

OS 9

2010-04-26 Thread Lawrence David Eden
Some time ago someone gave a url for a net install of OS 9. Could someone repost that url? Thanks, Larry -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http

Re: OS 9

2010-04-26 Thread Fabian Fang
On Apr 26, 2010, at 4:24 PM, Lawrence David Eden wrote: Some time ago someone gave a url for a net install of OS 9. Could someone repost that url? http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=120243 You could have found this by searching the G-Group Archives, or searching Apple

Re: OS 9

2010-04-26 Thread Len Gerstel
On Apr 26, 2010, at 7:37 PM, Fabian Fang wrote: On Apr 26, 2010, at 4:24 PM, Lawrence David Eden wrote: Some time ago someone gave a url for a net install of OS 9. Could someone repost that url? http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=120243 You could have found

USB 2.0 with OS 9?

2010-04-19 Thread Gorka L Martinez Mezo
Did OS 9 support the USB 2.0 protocol? I would like to get a USB 2.0 PCI card for a Beige G3 running 9.1 and some cards say they will run USB 2.0 only under OS X. Thanks! Gorka from Spain -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4

Re: USB 2.0 with OS 9?

2010-04-19 Thread Len Gerstel
On Apr 19, 2010, at 3:52 PM, Gorka L Martinez Mezo wrote: Did OS 9 support the USB 2.0 protocol? I would like to get a USB 2.0 PCI card for a Beige G3 running 9.1 and some cards say they will run USB 2.0 only under OS X. Thanks! Sorry, no USB 2 drivers were ever written for OS 9. So

Re: USB 2.0 with OS 9?

2010-04-19 Thread Gorka L Martinez Mezo
Sorry, no USB 2 drivers were ever written for OS 9. So the cards are correct, but they should still work at USB 1 speeds. Thanks! I´m fairly new to OS 9. The machine already has a 2xUSB/2xFW400 PCI card so looks like a replacement wouldn`t be needed! Gorka from Spain -- You received

Re: USB 2.0 with OS 9?

2010-04-19 Thread Kris Tilford
On Apr 19, 2010, at 2:52 PM, Gorka L Martinez Mezo wrote: Did OS 9 support the USB 2.0 protocol? No, there are no MacOS (OS 9.x) cards, they're all OS X only. I would like to get a USB 2.0 PCI card for a Beige G3. Install 10.4 Tiger on your Beige and it will work with a USB 2.0 card

Re: USB 2.0 with OS 9?

2010-04-19 Thread Mark Sokolovsky
Install Tiger on e beige G3? Yeah right... unless you are looking to run into problems with performance, i suggest you go with jaguar. Here is what i suggest for your system to have before you get tiger on it: 300Mhz PowerPC G3 512MB RAM 16MB video RAM 30GB HDD Tiger will work on it for sure,

Best wireless adapter for OS 9

2010-04-05 Thread Thomas Chen
I have a Pismo (upgraded to G4/550) and BW (upgraded to G4/600) running both OS 9.2.2 and 10.4.11 just fine. Any recommendations for the best wireless adapter for each? Here are my limitations: 1) Want to have capability for WPA 2) Want to run in both OS 9 and OS 10 3) Prefer not to use up

Re: Best wireless adapter for OS 9

2010-04-05 Thread Dana Collins
for WPA 2) Want to run in both OS 9 and OS 10 3) Prefer not to use up another PCI slot in the BW. It already has ATA controller and USB 2.0/Firewire cards The PIsmo already has an original Airport card but it only supports WEP in OS 9. Plus, it's a little buggy connecting to some routers (e.g

Re: OS 9 boot CD

2010-03-01 Thread Michael G.M.
Oh G-Group, Oh G-Group! I think this has been a very informative discussion. We don't need to get snappy over Mac OS 9, do we? I love Mac OS 9! Using it tonight! Can't wait to try out the new Classilla version! I'll try it out this week! -Mike On Mar 1, 1:03 am, Fabian Fang f...@mac.com wrote

OS 9 boot CD

2010-02-28 Thread Ray
Hello. I have a G4 MDD 1.25 with FW400 and I have been looking for a long time for the original OS 9 CD that came with this computer. I have tried many different OS 9 versions but for this G4, it has to have the exact CD's that came with it to make it boot. Any help is greatly appreciated

Re: OS 9 boot CD

2010-02-28 Thread Michael G.M.
may need to boot disabling extensions the first time to disable a couple for proper setup of Mac OS 9 native booting as some Classic support extensions conflict with booting Mac OS 9 properly(?) Best, -Mike On Feb 28, 9:38 am, Ray rfy...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello. I have a G4 MDD 1.25 with FW400

Re: OS 9 boot CD

2010-02-28 Thread Kasey Smith
On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 8:38 AM, Ray rfy...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello. I have a G4 MDD 1.25 with FW400 and I have been looking for a long time for the original OS 9 CD that came with this computer. I have tried many different OS 9 versions but for this G4, it has to have the exact CD's

Re: OS 9 boot CD

2010-02-28 Thread Ken Daggett
On 28 Feb 2010, at 16:37:46 PST, Kasey Smith wrote: On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 8:38 AM, Ray rfy...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello. I have a G4 MDD 1.25 with FW400 and I have been looking for a long time for the original OS 9 CD that came with this computer. I have tried many different OS 9 versions

Re: OS 9 boot CD

2010-02-28 Thread Bill Connelly
On Feb 28, 2010, at 8:46 PM, Ken Daggett wrote: On 28 Feb 2010, at 16:37:46 PST, Kasey Smith wrote: On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 8:38 AM, Ray rfy...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello. I have a G4 MDD 1.25 with FW400 and I have been looking for a long time for the original OS 9 CD that came

Re: OS 9 boot CD

2010-02-28 Thread Bill Connelly
much info: http://lowendmac.com/ppc/mdd-power-mac-g4-dual.html Is the OS 9 discussion group up and running some where? My OS 9.2.2 Install disk is for my Quicksilver 2002 Dual 1GHz. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop

Re: OS 9 boot CD

2010-02-28 Thread Clark Martin
for the original OS 9 CD that came with this computer. I have tried many different OS 9 versions but for this G4, it has to have the exact CD's that came with it to make it boot. Any help is greatly appreciated if you have this exact model. thanks __ Just grab

Re: OS 9 boot CD

2010-02-28 Thread Fabian Fang
On Feb 28, 2010, at 8:35 PM, Bill Connelly wrote: Is the OS 9 discussion group up and running some where? The LEM Mac OS9 Group is live and well, with almost a thousand members: http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/macos9.html Its messages are generally civil and focused, with few OT posts

Re: OS 9 boot CD

2010-02-28 Thread John Musbach
On 2/28/10, Ray rfy...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello. I have a G4 MDD 1.25 with FW400 and I have been looking for a long time for the original OS 9 CD that came with this computer. I have tried many different OS 9 versions but for this G4, it has to have the exact CD's that came with it to make

Where OS 9 needs to be..?

2010-01-01 Thread Bruce Godfrey
I have a B/W, upgraded with an XLR8 G4 zif, which is running from an IDE drive that used to reside in my old Beige G3 desktop. In that previous computer OS X had to be installed on the first drive partition and I had two smaller ones which each had a version of OS 9. All those partitions

Re: Where OS 9 needs to be..?

2010-01-01 Thread Kasey Smith
On Jan 1, 2010, at 6:59 PM, Bruce Godfrey wrote: Is the above information about which system has to be in the first partition different on IDE vs SCSI drives in the G3 line? I did the boot up from the OS 9 installer disk and remove the system 9 from the system folder on the hard drive, than

Re: Where OS 9 needs to be..?

2010-01-01 Thread Bruce Godfrey
Kasey Smith wrote: On Jan 1, 2010, at 6:59 PM, Bruce Godfrey wrote: Is the above information about which system has to be in the first partition different on IDE vs SCSI drives in the G3 line? I did the boot up from the OS 9 installer disk and remove the system 9 from the system folder

Powermac G4 1.2ghz powerlogix question with OS 9

2009-11-12 Thread crhm85
Hello, I have a heavily upgraded powermac G4 sawtooth unit (superdrive/1.2 GB RAM/powerlogix CPU/SATA drive adapter and SATA drives). Everything works great with the powerlogix cpu upgrade in Leopard, but the one thing I cannot do is boot off an os 9 disc and install the OS. As soon

Re: Powermac G4 1.2ghz powerlogix question with OS 9

2009-11-12 Thread Kris Tilford
I have tried an OS 9.2.2 disc and an OS 9.0.4 disc. Try the Netboot 9.2.2 free download: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=120243#English This is an OS X installer package, double-click the package to install. Remove the two netboot extensions from the System folderExtensions

Re: Powermac G4 1.2ghz powerlogix question with OS 9

2009-11-12 Thread Clark Martin
crhm85 wrote: Hello, I have a heavily upgraded powermac G4 sawtooth unit (superdrive/1.2 GB RAM/powerlogix CPU/SATA drive adapter and SATA drives). Everything works great with the powerlogix cpu upgrade in Leopard, but the one thing I cannot do is boot off an os 9 disc and install the OS

Re: Mac OS 9 Booting in X Only G4 Macs, using firmware tweaks

2009-05-23 Thread Mullin9
On May 22, 1:37 am, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: On May 22, 2009, at 2:11 AM, MaGioZal wrote: The problem is that Classic emulation does not function with 10.5 or   the intel Macs... Yes, but under 10.5 or Intel Macs (or PCs) you can use Sheepshaver to   run OS 9

Re: Mac OS 9 Booting in X Only G4 Macs, using firmware tweaks

2009-05-22 Thread Kris Tilford
On May 22, 2009, at 12:39 AM, Mullin9 wrote: Is there's a way to boot the X Only G4 Macs, Using Mac OS 9, using firmware tweaks Perhaps possible, but why? Unless you plan to write new OS 9 hardware drivers for a myriad of new hardware, for example: FW800, PCI-X, PCIe, 802.11g/n, newer

Re: [G3-5]Re: Mac OS 9 Booting in X Only G4 Macs, using firmware tweaks

2009-05-22 Thread MaGioZal
On 5/22/09 4:00 AM, Kris Tilford at ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: Remember, all this newer hardware IS supported for OS 9 under Classic emulation. If you need OS 9, use Classic, or get a Mac that can boot OS 9. The problem is that Classic emulation does not function with 10.5 or the intel Macs

Re: [G3-5]Re: Mac OS 9 Booting in X Only G4 Macs, using firmware tweaks

2009-05-22 Thread Kris Tilford
On May 22, 2009, at 2:11 AM, MaGioZal wrote: The problem is that Classic emulation does not function with 10.5 or the intel Macs... Yes, but under 10.5 or Intel Macs (or PCs) you can use Sheepshaver to run OS 9 in emulation: http://gwenole.beauchesne.info/en/projects/sheepshaver

Mac OS 9 Booting in X Only G4 Macs, using firmware tweaks

2009-05-21 Thread Mullin9
Is there's a way to boot the X Only G4 Macs, Using Mac OS 9, using firmware tweaks MacRISC2 = OS 9 bootable MacRISC3 = OS X only bootable Link is http://www.opensource.apple.com/source/AppleMacRISC2PE/AppleMacRISC2PE-180.0.12/MacRISC2.cpp Link is http://www.apple.com/publicsource Thanks

Re: [G3-5]Mac OS 9 Booting in X Only G4 Macs, using firmware tweaks

2009-05-21 Thread MaGioZal
On 5/22/09 2:39 AM, Mullin9 at ddavidmul...@inbox.com wrote: Is there's a way to boot the X Only G4 Macs, Using Mac OS 9, using firmware tweaks MacRISC2 = OS 9 bootable MacRISC3 = OS X only bootable Link is http://www.opensource.apple.com/source/AppleMacRISC2PE/AppleMacRISC2PE

g4 MDD fw 400 mhz no start with os 9

2009-03-18 Thread k l
secind hand bought - Its not able to start in os 9 it freezes just before the extensionparade - startin from original g4 9.2.2 install cd or from a copied from my D A g4, same thing - with or without extensions off - it stops just before extension load, works flawless with os X 2 x 867 mhz - 1.5

Re: g4 MDD fw 400 mhz no start with os 9

2009-03-18 Thread k l
2009/3/18 Ken Daggett kadagg...@verizon.net On 18 Mar 2009, at 04:56:33 PDT, k l wrote: secind hand bought - Its not able to start in os 9 it freezes just before the extensionparade - startin from original g4 9.2.2 install cd or from a copied from my D A g4, same thing

Urgent request for G4 / OS 9 password help

2009-03-17 Thread Jonas Lopez
Urgent request for G4 / OS 9 password help At the request of the women using the computer and making their mailing list and newsletter, we did not install any X systems. We kept the OS 9 because ClarisWorks will run and it will fill their needs just fine. They have spent several months

Re: Urgent request for G4 / OS 9 password help

2009-03-17 Thread Kris Tilford
On Mar 17, 2009, at 12:51 PM, Jonas Lopez wrote: Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1926431 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for

Re: Urgent request for G4 / OS 9 password help

2009-03-17 Thread jonas ulrich
Well thats incredibly cool. I spent hours working on my beige g3 minitower because I lost the password.-Jonas On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: On Mar 17, 2009, at 12:51 PM, Jonas Lopez wrote: Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

Re: Urgent request for G4 / OS 9 password help

2009-03-17 Thread Clark Martin
jonas ulrich wrote: Well thats incredibly cool. I spent hours working on my beige g3 minitower because I lost the password. -Jonas On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net mailto:ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: On Mar 17, 2009, at 12:51 PM, Jonas Lopez wrote:

Re: Urgent request for G4 / OS 9 password help

2009-03-17 Thread Jonas Lopez
--- On Tue, 3/17/09, Clark Martin cm...@sonic.net wrote: From: Clark Martin cm...@sonic.net Subject: Re: Urgent request for G4 / OS 9 password help To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, March 17, 2009, 11:57 AM jonas ulrich wrote: Well thats incredibly cool. I spent hours working

Re: Urgent request for G4 / OS 9 password help

2009-03-17 Thread Kris Tilford
On Mar 17, 2009, at 8:49 PM, Jonas Lopez wrote: This worked just fine, Good, problem solved. BUT as we all like to learn, A premise disproved by a single example, G.W. Bush. I opened the file using MSword, MSword? Some kind of Multi-Sword application for cleaving open files? which will

Latest Toast titanium for Mac OS 9

2009-01-04 Thread Mullin9
Dear Sir What is the Latest Toast titanium for Mac OS 9 I have an iMac G4 800 with OS 9 on it. with DVD RW, 60 GB HDD --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5

Re: Latest Toast titanium for Mac OS 9

2009-01-04 Thread Kris Tilford
On Jan 4, 2009, at 6:58 PM, Mullin9 wrote: What is the Latest Toast titanium for Mac OS 9 The transition from OS 9 to OS X happened about the same time that Toast moved from Adaptec to Roxio. Toast 5 was the carbon version then that worked natively in both OS 9 OS X. Toast caved to Apple

Getting to OS 9 by way of OS X

2008-12-20 Thread Jonas Lopez
Getting to OS 9 from OS X. When you go to System Pref / Classic for the first time after install, you will get a request asking to make some changes to OS 9. What is going on here is that an ENABLER is installed and if you now look at the OS 9 system folder you will see a very faint big X

Re: Getting to OS 9 by way of OS X

2008-12-20 Thread Mullin9
I had 3 OS 9 systems and only the first one that the system found was changed and the faint big X added to its folder. This folder MUST be kept or you will not be able to get to OS 9 from OS X. Not exactly true You must have at least 1 OS 9 System Folder in your Mac, for it to have

Re: Getting to OS 9 by way of OS X

2008-12-20 Thread Mike Baker
I have OS X 10.2 on a G4 Sawtooth but no OS 9 on it. Can I install OS 9 on it? I have OS 9 discs from my iMac that I moved many documents and programs from to the G4. I also have an external hard drive hooked up to the G$ that has OS 9 on it, and so far the G$ has been using that to run OS 9

Re: Getting to OS 9 by way of OS X

2008-12-20 Thread Paul
You can install OS 9 on the Sawtooth. It's best to use a separate partition from OS X or a separate drive There's a good chance the iMac OS 9 disks won't work, though, especially if the iMac is older than your G4. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message

Re: G4 Problem Booting OS 9

2008-12-07 Thread Yersinia
Charles Lenington writes, I hope you remembered to install the os 9 disk drivers on nucleolus after all this frustration. Yeah, I did -- both times! ~Yersinia. Friends don't let friends do Windoze. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message

Re: G4 Problem Booting OS 9

2008-12-06 Thread Yersinia
partitions with blessed system folders as multiple separate bootable HDs. Which is why I don't NEED to make multiple partitions on Nucleolus (my 20 GB HD which I want devoted to OS 9) -- sure I could have made them if I wanted them, but I don't want them. All I need to have on that drive

Re: G4 Problem Booting OS 9

2008-12-06 Thread Paul Stamsen
.. (snip) Which is why I don't NEED to make multiple partitions on Nucleolus (my 20 GB HD which I want devoted to OS 9) -- sure I could have made them if I wanted them, but I don't want them. All I need to have on that drive is a (snip) Well, maybe I'll have better news later. ~Yersinia. Have

Re: G4 Problem Booting OS 9

2008-12-06 Thread Yersinia
Paul writes, Have you tried using Conflict Catcher to set up different boot sets? I don't even have Conflict Catcher, believe it or not. :-) But I do have some good news -- I can boot my G4 in OS 9 now and it doesn't freeze! The Open Firmware trick worked. It was a little strange when

Re: G4 Problem Booting OS 9

2008-12-06 Thread Charles Lenington
to use. I'll also mention that a suggestion I got to try with an 'older' OS 9 install CD and upgrade to 9.2.2 with the Apple updates, all of which I do have, would have also worked for this machine, according to what I saw on Apple's site, but hey, why bother with a 9.1 or 9.2.1 install plus

Re: G4 Problem Booting OS 9

2008-12-05 Thread Kris Tilford
works as well. There's a GUI equivalent in OS 9 also. You drag the System file Finder file out of the System Folder to unbless, and drag them back in to bless. You can tell the folder is unblessed because the icon changes to one without the smiley face on it. When you bless it the smiley

Re: G4 Problem Booting OS 9

2008-12-05 Thread Charles Davis
On Dec 5, 2008, at 1:21 AM, Clark Martin wrote: Charles Davis wrote: On Dec 4, 2008, at 2:44 PM, Yersinia wrote: snip If I have a deliberately unblessed OS 9 system folder, how is it going to be able to boot my Mac in OS 9 when I want it to? If the act of choosing a system folder

Re: G4 Problem Booting OS 9

2008-12-05 Thread Charles Davis
--- two files with the same name is a NO-NO.] I believe Yersinia is correct that an unblessed OS 9 folder can be used as Classic while booted under OS X, but will not boot natively. I don't believe either MacOS or OS X allows for two blessed Systems because an installer will not install a 2nd

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