Hi Shaun,
These days with software like Boot Camp that's not altogether true.
There are ways of having the best of both worlds. It is just that many
Windows users don't know about them so they are afraid to invest in a
Mac or Linux system believing as you do that they have to give up all
Hi Philip,
I think you pretty much covered all the major pros and cons of private
vs public testing so I really can't add too much to that part of the
discussion. However, what I may be able to add here is the benefit of my
experience with private verses public testing.
As far as public
actually that thought did came to mind a few times on the pkb group...
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From: shaun everiss shau...@xtra.co.nz
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 3:25 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] games we'd like to play: fan commander
lol.
Hi Dark,
Actually, that is standard practice in the mainstream business world.
One way a company gets private testers is by giving them a free product
for their help, or give them a rather big discount so that he/she gets a
good deal out of the testing process. Plus you can't really fully test
Hi David,
Most accessible game developers follow the same moddel. It is generally
understood if you test a game for a game developer you usually get a
free game out of the process. So it is pretty much expected by this
community.
David Chittenden wrote:
Hello Dark,
I have never been
Hello all
One big problem I want to menzion here is, that I and my friend tryed to get
into a beta-team.
We couldn't enter, and we didn't receive an ansver about it.
That's a problem in my eyes, because we were interested in testing it, and
so I think the minimum would be to get an ansver from
No problem David.
Like everything else, it's up to the developer, I was just pointing out that
it was not a necessary condition of private testing that the developer has
to give away 5 or 10 coppies of the game for free.
It does seem reasonable with business software and the like, --- sinse
As i said Sean, entombed did actually have private testing back when the
basic systems were being setup.
None of the private versions I played were actually particularly playable
games, though Jason did stick in a surprise or two to keep us on our
toes.
That's the model I stil think is
Hi Munawar.
Personally, i don't mind successive ptches at all, indeed the patches for
entombed which A, fixed bugs, and B, redressed a good few balancing issues
inherent in the first version of the game were a very good thing indeed.
I'd have actually been slightly disappointed myself if the
Hi Munawar.
that's true, however I stil don't think giving away the software is a
mandatory requirement of private testing.
I've certainly been in situations where getting a given private test build
to work has taken some shinanigans, but I stil never particularly see
this as a problem
I see the truth of all that Tom, however as you said yourself, i don't think
Mota is a particularly typical testing process at all for games.
Even apart from the pretty major money issue you mention, there was the fact
that the original alchemy game had features x y z, that you then produced
Hi tom.
I wasn't in anyway suggesting giving away public copies of the game. As has
already been said, public copies should be restricted to demo content only,
and for the purposes of testing the general running and mechanics of the
game.
If you've got a game which employs vastly different
Just to clear a few things up.
With boot camp your second op is not running in virtual mode. It is
running under full system resources. So on the new mac's it would be
like a regular pc.
Now if you want the best of both worlds and ops. You can run them
together with the second op in the
Hi Ryan,
It is hard to predict when testing is finished. I am going through the new
features in the Sarah game and making sure they all work as expected.
Then I will be sending the beta to a limited group of people.
If after a while, and no major bugs are found, then I release it to the
Yes, I was having the same situation. I was not among the testers, don't
know why, and didn't receive the answer about the thing.
Milos Przic
msn: milos.pr...@gmail.com
skype: Milosh-hs
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From: Claudio Zeni claudio.z...@bluewin.ch
To: 'Gamers Discussion
Hi Claudio and Milos.
A private team usually has a limmited number of testers and I am sure every
one who applied for a beta team didn't get in at some point.
Sometimes the developer posts a news item on their website or on this list,
but personally replying to each respondant isn't
Hi Willem, Claudio and others,
This is very true. While a beta applicant may feel that his or her own
application should warrent an immediate inclusion in the team, this may not
always be the case and what one has to consider is, while the applicant has
only their own application to worry
Hi David and Dark,
I also think that the final price of the product has an impact on this
decision. What you are essentially doing is paying the beta testers for
their work, and so let's say that the game will sell for 25 or 30 dollars
then that's probably a reasonable amount to give in
I must say I look forward to playing this new Sarah. I just got a new pc, so
I just look forward to playing all of the GMA Game engine games, once I get
my key replacements.
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I'm running Windows XP, and I have a GIG and a half of ram.
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Hey all. I was successful in downloading some games from Jim's website. I
can't, however, download any from Draconus Entertainment. Probably because they
don't unzip. Happy New Year!
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What do you mean, they don't unzip? There standard setup packages in the
form of exe files.
Best Regards,
Hayden
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From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Shirley Starblanket
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 10:51 AM
To:
Which version of JAWS do you have on your machine?
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Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 10:49 AM
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well I currently don't have much in the way of an offline carrier.
I have always liked to test and such and try to get into every project.
These game projects are good things and I will continue to do them however
these are not usually earning me cash.
Yes free games are all well and good but its
oh and by the way, like everyone else I read what I want and enter it if I can.
I am in the line just like everyone else.
I'd have liked to get in the test team for q9 but i at first didn't want to
bother and then the team filled up.
You should also know that testing is not the be all, end all.
I heard about that.
apple made a bit of fuss a bit late in the game to say they were not happy
about it but it didn't stay up there for long, and my guess is they were
annoyed enough to put up a small objection but not to much really.
At 01:35 a.m. 4/01/2010, you wrote:
Just to clear a few
Hello Listers,
I bought the MLB baseball game for playstation 2. How do you set it up and
play it? it is the 2009 version. I remember when EA made the baseball game I
still have the instructions some ware. Do you set it up the same way? Any
help would be appreciated.
Thanks
Michael
Skype
true.
I do have my games I test but don't run them all the time.
Actually right now its mid summer here.
running games?
I can test if I need to but it does not cool right down these days.
At 04:06 a.m. 4/01/2010, you wrote:
Hi David and Dark,
I also think that the final price of the product has
Not able to be unzipped is not a reason for not being able to be downloaded
that I'm aware of.
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From: Shirley Starblanket dyna.hender...@sasktel.net
To: gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 6:51 AM
Subject: [Audyssey] successful
i myself have had problems like this, and i am running windows xp, have 3
gb cpu, 2 gb ram, and running jaws 10.
i am not sure however if its jaws or the game beeing laggy, as i noticed it
most when there were more people on lastnight.
best regards
dallas
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From:
There objection to the hackintosh is We won't support it, or update
it. you will also be black listed for apple products. if you even ask
them to go near it.. So they rest easy on that note.
Now for windows running under or on mac hardware. It runs better then
under pc proven fact.
At 01:41
I have both ten and eleven. I've tried them both with the same result.
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well I have no issue with hackentosh stuff being unsupported its not exactly
using apple hardware really.
At 11:03 a.m. 4/01/2010, you wrote:
There objection to the hackintosh is We won't support it, or update it. you
will also be black listed for apple products. if you even ask them to go near
Hello,
The business, productivity, and AT programs which I have alpha and beta
tested were typically in the multi-hundred to few thousand dollar range.
For these products, beta testing has always been quite intensive;
usually lasting at least six months and requiring considerable time
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