Re: [Audyssey] .Net 2.0 vs 3.0 and Vista support.

2007-09-05 Thread Charles Rivard
. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 3:31 PM Subject: [Audyssey] .Net 2.0 vs 3.0 and Vista support. Hi all, Recently I've been strongly considering upgrading all my games to the .Net Framework 3.0 in order

Re: [Audyssey] .Net 2.0 vs 3.0 and Vista support.

2007-09-05 Thread Sky Taylor Mundell
PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] .Net 2.0 vs 3.0 and Vista support. I use Windows xp Home, and plan to do so for as long as possible. As long as it meets my needs, which it currently does, and until Vista's bugs are worked out to a point at which it is reliable and user friendly to users of jaws

Re: [Audyssey] .Net 2.0 vs 3.0 and Vista support.

2007-09-05 Thread Thomas Ward
are most likely not right, you get the idea, I'm sure. Thanks. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 3:31 PM Subject: [Audyssey] .Net 2.0 vs 3.0 and Vista support. Hi all, Recently I've been strongly

Re: [Audyssey] .Net 2.0 vs 3.0 and Vista support.

2007-08-30 Thread Jim Kitchen
Hi Thomas, Sorry, I misunderstood you. I thought that you were talking that current software would not run in Vista and beyond. Definitely agree that every new version of Windows has needed a much more powerful machine to run it on and that, that will continue to be true. BFN Jim All

Re: [Audyssey] .Net 2.0 vs 3.0 and Vista support.

2007-08-30 Thread Jim Kitchen
Hi Trouble, I do disagree with you about me needing to move up with the latest and greatest or quit. As I said dos programs and windows 3.1 programs still run in windows xp. My VB6 programs run in windows Vista and I will wager that they will also run in the next version of windows as well.

Re: [Audyssey] .Net 2.0 vs 3.0 and Vista support.

2007-08-30 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Jim, That was definately not my point. there is allot of older software that still runs on Windows Vista, but some of them have issues, and you have to tinker with it to make them run. Though, there are going to be future issues with VB 6 applications and earlier just because the fact

Re: [Audyssey] .Net 2.0 vs 3.0 and Vista support.

2007-08-30 Thread Josh
@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 1:55 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] .Net 2.0 vs 3.0 and Vista support. Hi Jim, That was definately not my point. there is allot of older software that still runs on Windows Vista, but some of them have issues, and you have to tinker with it to make them

Re: [Audyssey] .Net 2.0 vs 3.0 and Vista support.

2007-08-30 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Josh, I haven't tried this with VB 2005, but I know VB 2003 had a wizard that would allow you to import a VB 6 project,and it would attempt to convert it to VB .Net. In most cases the code was usable, but some of the code like DirectX would have to be upgraded by hand to fit with DirectX

Re: [Audyssey] .Net 2.0 vs 3.0 and Vista support.

2007-08-30 Thread Tristan
Developer ACE Games http://www.acegamesonline.net Skype: Tristanbussiere MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: gitrdone9632 - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 2:06 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] .Net 2.0 vs

Re: [Audyssey] .Net 2.0 vs 3.0 and Vista support.

2007-08-30 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Tristan, First, a correction. Visual Basic .Net and Visual Basic 2005 are the very same language. We just use the name VB 2005 to distinguish it from Visual Basic .Net 2003 and Visual Basic 6. Second, as for the Microsoft .Net Express compilers I have a link to all of them on my FAQ page

Re: [Audyssey] .Net 2.0 vs 3.0 and Vista support.

2007-08-30 Thread shaun everiss
I will never move to the latest and greatest. There are 2 things. If you are hard cure you would probably be with the latest and greatest. Meaning you would chuck away your crappy computer after 3 months because thats aparently how long it takes for something to be obselete. The top models and

Re: [Audyssey] .Net 2.0 vs 3.0 and Vista support.

2007-08-29 Thread Jim Kitchen
Hi Thomas, I don't know about present or past programs not running on Vista etc. I can still run dos programs in XP as well as programs like Cool Edit from Windows 3.1. Heck even here on the list the old BBS door games and other dos text adventure games are still very popular. I just don't

Re: [Audyssey] .Net 2.0 vs 3.0 and Vista support.

2007-08-29 Thread Trouble
The only thing i got to say about this is, Your right not everything has to be the latest and greatest. however, with the blind getting computers from orgs and other places. The op on that system is going to be the latest and greatest. Why because that is what is new and that is what they get.

Re: [Audyssey] .Net 2.0 vs 3.0 and Vista support.

2007-08-29 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Jason, A version for XP is available on the Microsoft site. Once I port Monty to .Net 3.0, which seams likely, I'll be posting it to the USA Games site as well. jason wrote: Hello Thomas whre can you get the .network version 3.0 on the microsoft sight or do you have it on on USA games?

Re: [Audyssey] .Net 2.0 vs 3.0 and Vista support.

2007-08-29 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Jim, I'm a little confused by your post, but I think we are talking about two differen things here. First, the .Net Framework 3.0 is not really supported on Windows 2000, but is well supported on Windows Server 2003, Windows XP, and Vista of course. Second, I was merely pointing out in the

Re: [Audyssey] .Net 2.0 vs 3.0 and Vista support.

2007-08-29 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Trouble, Well said. I don't have a problem with anyone having around an old system to play dos games, and older programs. I have a 98 SE system in my living room which still acts a gaming machine for older stuff like Tomb Raider, and some of my older games. I never said that older stuff is

Re: [Audyssey] .Net 2.0 vs 3.0 and Vista support.

2007-08-29 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Michael, No problem. You may be one of the ones who will benifit from direct Vista support rahter than me sticking with .Net 2.0, and trying to support everything from 2K on up to Vista. Michael Maslo wrote: Thomas: I am using vista already --- Gamers mailing list __

Re: [Audyssey] .Net 2.0 vs 3.0 and Vista support.

2007-08-29 Thread jason
Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 11:12 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] .Net 2.0 vs 3.0 and Vista support. Hi Jason, A version for XP is available on the Microsoft site. Once I port Monty to .Net 3.0

[Audyssey] .Net 2.0 vs 3.0 and Vista support.

2007-08-28 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi all, Recently I've been strongly considering upgrading all my games to the .Net Framework 3.0 in order to better support windows Vista which others and I now are using on a daily basis. The plus side of doing this is that all that will be required is installing or upgrading DirectX to Aug.

Re: [Audyssey] .Net 2.0 vs 3.0 and Vista support.

2007-08-28 Thread Josh
, August 28, 2007 4:31 PM Subject: [Audyssey] .Net 2.0 vs 3.0 and Vista support. Hi all, Recently I've been strongly considering upgrading all my games to the .Net Framework 3.0 in order to better support windows Vista which others and I now are using on a daily basis. The plus side of doing

Re: [Audyssey] .Net 2.0 vs 3.0 and Vista support.

2007-08-28 Thread Damien C. Sadler
Sadler - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 9:31 PM Subject: [Audyssey] .Net 2.0 vs 3.0 and Vista support. Hi all, Recently I've been strongly considering upgrading all my games to the .Net Framework 3.0 in order

Re: [Audyssey] .Net 2.0 vs 3.0 and Vista support.

2007-08-28 Thread Ron Schamerhorn
@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 4:31 PM Subject: [Audyssey] .Net 2.0 vs 3.0 and Vista support. Hi all, Recently I've been strongly considering upgrading all my games to the .Net Framework 3.0 in order to better support windows Vista which others and I now are using on a daily basis

Re: [Audyssey] .Net 2.0 vs 3.0 and Vista support.

2007-08-28 Thread Casey
I will be upgrading to Vista via a new pc within the year. probably within the next 7 months. Casey - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 4:31 PM Subject: [Audyssey] .Net 2.0 vs 3.0 and Vista support. Hi all

Re: [Audyssey] .Net 2.0 vs 3.0 and Vista support.

2007-08-28 Thread Michael Maslo
not be created. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 3:31 PM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] .Net 2.0 vs 3.0 and Vista support. Hi all, Recently I've been strongly considering upgrading all my games

Re: [Audyssey] .Net 2.0 vs 3.0 and Vista support.

2007-08-28 Thread Gary Whittington
list at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Crash - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 2:31 PM Subject: [Audyssey] .Net 2.0 vs 3.0 and Vista support. Hi all, Recently I've been strongly considering upgrading all my games

Re: [Audyssey] .Net 2.0 vs 3.0 and Vista support.

2007-08-28 Thread shaun everiss
Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 9:31 PM Subject: [Audyssey] .Net 2.0 vs 3.0 and Vista support. Hi all, Recently I've been strongly considering upgrading all my games to the .Net Framework 3.0 in order to better support windows Vista which others

Re: [Audyssey] .Net 2.0 vs 3.0 and Vista support.

2007-08-28 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Damien and all, Let me refraze the Vista question so my question is more clear. I am trying to figure out how many of you will be upgrading to Vista over the next year, and not gather data on how many are planning to stick with XP. XP works fine with .Net 3 and DirectX so no compatibility

Re: [Audyssey] .Net 2.0 vs 3.0 and Vista support.

2007-08-28 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Josh, Just speaking from personal experience if you are getting a new computer with in the next year it's better to get one preloaded with Vista rather than upgrade. The reason is Vista is notorious for having hardware and driver issues on untested computer systems. The one's you buy that

Re: [Audyssey] .Net 2.0 vs 3.0 and Vista support.

2007-08-28 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Ron, (Smile) I can understand your reasons there. You are right XP SP2 has been the most stable os Microsoft has released to date. Anything earlier is not worth your time as far as stability and security goes. Microsoft has a huge history of releasing buggy operating systems, but over time

Re: [Audyssey] .Net 2.0 vs 3.0 and Vista support.

2007-08-28 Thread shaun everiss
I have no plans to upgrade any system for now. Everything is stable and if I upgraded I'd have to spend cash on screenreaders wich I don't have. At 08:31 a.m. 29/08/2007, you wrote: Hi all, Recently I've been strongly considering upgrading all my games to the .Net Framework 3.0 in order to

Re: [Audyssey] .Net 2.0 vs 3.0 and Vista support.

2007-08-28 Thread shaun everiss
yet, maybe a year or so, I've been quite pleased with the performance and would use nothing developed earlier. Ron Audyssey Editor - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 4:31 PM Subject: [Audyssey] .Net 2.0 vs 3.0

Re: [Audyssey] .Net 2.0 vs 3.0 and Vista support.

2007-08-28 Thread blind guy
earlier. Ron Audyssey Editor - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 4:31 PM Subject: [Audyssey] .Net 2.0 vs 3.0 and Vista support. Hi all, Recently I've been strongly considering upgrading all my games

Re: [Audyssey] .Net 2.0 vs 3.0 and Vista support.

2007-08-28 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Casey, Thanks for your post. This is exactly the kind of info I am searching for. You are officially number 1 on the possible converts on my future growth chart. Casey wrote: I will be upgrading to Vista via a new pc within the year. probably within the next 7 months. --- Gamers

Re: [Audyssey] .Net 2.0 vs 3.0 and Vista support.

2007-08-28 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Michael, I can certainly tell you it has nothing to do with .Net 3.0. Super Liam was written in Visual Basic 6.0. As you may or may not know Visual Basic 6 applications are not well supported under Win Vista, and Microsoft is pulling all support in 2008. Anyway, I don't know the exact cause

Re: [Audyssey] .Net 2.0 vs 3.0 and Vista support.

2007-08-28 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Shaun, Quote If I upgrade, I will get the best version of vista and pro version. End quote Well, let me just say this since I have some inside knolege about Vista that the public doesn't know. Every Vista dvd that is pressed is identical except for one or two files that tells the os if it

Re: [Audyssey] .Net 2.0 vs 3.0 and Vista support.

2007-08-28 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Shaun, As I told another lister that is fine. I am merely trying to flush out those who are certainly planning on a Vista upgrade. I don't need to know those users who aren't planning on an upgrade do to cash, hardware, fears of upgrading, bla. I plan to support XP for a long time, but I want

Re: [Audyssey] .Net 2.0 vs 3.0 and Vista support.

2007-08-28 Thread Michael Maslo
Thomas: I am using vista already -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 6:54 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] .Net 2.0 vs 3.0 and Vista support. Hi Damien and all, Let me refraze

Re: [Audyssey] .Net 2.0 vs 3.0 and Vista support.

2007-08-28 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Blind Guy, Well, as I just said to Shaun in my prier post running the BSC games isn't hopeless under Vista, but a pain in the rear to make them work. Mostly it requires you opening yourself to security risks by disabling some of Vista's security features. blind guy wrote: wow. i bought 3

Re: [Audyssey] .Net 2.0 vs 3.0 and Vista support.

2007-08-28 Thread Michael Maslo
Thomas: I appreciate that so very much. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 8:08 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] .Net 2.0 vs 3.0 and Vista support. Hi Michael, I can certainly

Re: [Audyssey] .Net 2.0 vs 3.0 and Vista support.

2007-08-28 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Gary, I have considered having two seperate downloads as you mentioned. Click here to download a version for Windows 2000 or XP. Click here to download for Vista. However, the only sticker is Windows 2000. there are .net 3.0 back ports for XP and Windows Server 2003 so there is absolutely

Re: [Audyssey] .Net 2.0 vs 3.0 and Vista support.

2007-08-28 Thread Willem
I'm not upgrading soon to vista. It's not worth the trouble for me yet. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 3:02 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] .Net 2.0 vs 3.0 and Vista support. Hi Casey

Re: [Audyssey] .Net 2.0 vs 3.0 and Vista support.

2007-08-28 Thread jason
, 2007 7:54 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] .Net 2.0 vs 3.0 and Vista support. Hi Damien and all, Let me refraze the Vista question so my question is more clear. I am trying to figure out how many of you will be upgrading to Vista over the next year, and not gather data on how many are planning