Hello Everyone,
I was listening to some reviews that Kelly Sapergia did of Grizly
Gulch and Chillingham, the two games put out by Bavisoft. I was
interested in purchasing them, so I navigated to their website.
Credit card processing seems to be down, but the Paypal link still
seems to work. I kno
Four words for you. Don't waste your time.
At 05:24 PM 14/12/2010, you wrote:
Hello Everyone,
I was listening to some reviews that Kelly Sapergia did of Grizly
Gulch and Chillingham, the two games put out by Bavisoft. I was
interested in purchasing them, so I navigated to their website.
Credit
lity and voice acting are both really good.
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From: "Tiffany Kim"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 1:24 AM
Subject: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
Hello Everyone,
I was listening to some reviews that Kelly Sapergia did of Grizly
Gulch and Chillingha
I would base whether I buy any company's games on the responses I get from
the company. No response? No sale.
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From: "Tiffany Kim"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 7:24 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] Is Baviso
ubject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
I would base whether I buy any company's games on the responses I get from
the company. No response? No sale.
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From: "Tiffany Kim"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, December
parts do have some good voice
acting and interesting ideas, and with a bit of modernization could be a
good basis for future titles.
Beware the Grue!
Dark.
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From: "Tiffany Kim"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 1:24 AM
Subject: [Audyssey] Is Bavisof
Only 160GB in size? do their games come on a few blu-ray discs? haha just
messing. I know what you meant. quite funny though.
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From: "dark"
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Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 1:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is B
Sounds sort of scammy
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Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 6:02 PM
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Basically, bavisoft have vanished so completely it's almost unbelieveable.
Th
funny though.
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Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 1:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
Basically, bavisoft have vanished so completely it's almost unbelieveable.
Their last g
Hi Tiffany,
To be honest I really wouldn't bother attempting to order from
Bavisoft. They claim that they are still in business, but they have
the absolutely worst reputation possible when it comes to processing
orders and answering their e-mail. You might place an order and never
recieve it, or y
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Only 160GB in size? do their games come on a few blu-ray discs? haha just
messing. I know what you meant. quite funny though.
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A scam no. The company did certainly exist and sold games in fact I bought
both titles in 2006 and stil own them, and while on audiogames.net we have
heard of people not recieving orders, there are undoubtedly people who have.
that being said, why the company is neither answering E-mails nor gi
Hi,
Ooh...That gives me an extremely wicked thought. Let me just say I
know a way that would seriously light a fire under their collective
butts and might knock a little sense into Bavisoft.
Just for kicks what if someone got on the audiogames.net forums and
said if Bavisoft doesn't begin answeri
mers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Thomas Ward
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 5:51 PM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
Hi,
Ooh...That gives me an extremely wicked thought. Let me just say I
know a way that would ser
amers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of dark
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 5:34 PM
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Ooopse! memo to self, even when in hurry write message correctly, ;D.
I will say though a 160 gb audio
plies of oats, but you'll never see it now!"
methinks I'd feel a trifle guilty.
Btw, anyone tries this on the forum, and I'll have to delete the topic.
Beware the Grue!
Dark.
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To: "Gamers Discussion
From: "Hayden Presley"
To: "'Gamers Discussion list'"
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 12:04 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
Hi Dark,
W...a lot more than 16 gb, I'd guess. I've got a pathetic harddrive
with
about 90 gb of memory
That's an evil thought... but I like it. I'm almost tempted. But it
would be interesting to see the reaction from them...
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Hi Dark,
Yeah, I know. Being a moderator myself I couldn't do anything like
that myself, nor allow anyone to do it here on Audyssey either. I was
just thinking it would be funny if someone did actually give them an
ultimatom of get with the program or just abandon the games
altogether. None of thi
re the Grue!
Dark.
- Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward"
To: "Gamers Discussion list"
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 11:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
Hi,
Ooh...That gives me an extremely wicked thought. Let me just say I
know a way that
unfortunately clemment,
while to you and I and many people not updating your site and having
bouncing e-mails is sufficient grounds to say someone is no longer a
company, legally that's not how things work. If bavisoft are stil registered
as a company, --- which, by the fact their website is s
6:23 PM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
Hi haiden.
you'd be surprised actually how litle space games take up.
My laptop is 5 years old and has a 32 gb harddrive (yes, it's tiny!). and
yet I've got all the gma titles accept for packman talks,
I agree with this principle... but like you, I think it would be
interesting to see how long it would take them to get off their butts
and say something. I entertain the thought, but am also straight
so will leave it as just that. An idea.
At 04:30 PM 15/12/2010, you wrote:
Hi Dark,
Yeah
Very true. As I just said, I'm entertaining the thought, but am not
going to do it... I'm not as crooked as some people out there. But I
do agree... if someone was to actually do it, it wouldn't be a good
precedent to set. But that doesn't change the fact that trying to
order directly through t
ble to buy them.
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From: "dark"
To: "Gamers Discussion list"
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 7:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
funnily enough Tom, I've been cconsiddering doing that very thing myself,
issuing them with an ult
bout it.
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From: "Clement Chou"
To: "Gamers Discussion list"
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 7:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
I agree with this principle... but like you, I think it would be
interesting to see how
of the community mad at me if
I posted a fake link.
We are the Knights who say...Ni!
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From: "Thomas Ward"
To: "Gamers Discussion list"
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 4:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
Hi,
Ooh...T
nesday, December 15, 2010 7:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
Oh I've been tempted to do that. Then again not many people would be able
to play them anymore since they're hardly Vista compatible, let alone
Windows 7. Except what I'd be tempted to do is post
bject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
I agree with this principle... but like you, I think it would be
interesting to see how long it would take them to get off their butts and
say something. I entertain the thought, but am also straight so will
leave it as just that. An idea.
Chou"
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Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 12:53 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
Very true. As I just said, I'm entertaining the thought, but am not going
to do it... I'm not as crooked as some people out there. But I do agre
Well as I said yohandi, code factory is a case of bending rather than
breaking rules.
Sinse the games are impossible to get hold of anymore, and code factory does
nothing to support them, some people on audiogames.net have been trying to
distribute the games.
I'm not prepared to stick this o
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Thing is we don't have to share a thing. they won't know that however and
they'll actually think we'll do it. so they'll be forced to res
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Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 5:56 AM
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Hi this is strange that they don't respond to anyones emails or orders I
bought both of the games 2 years ago an
Hi Dark,
As far as the piracy rules of the Audyssey list goes we require
written permission from the developer/author in order to redistribute
games freely. As Dan, Philip Bennefall, and a few developers have
publically given permission to redistribute games like Super Deecout,
Tarzan Junior, etc
Hi Dark,
Not only that, but you might want to point out or add that adding some
sort of download service would greatly improve their order system. For
example, on USA Games we have a php script that routes you to Paypal
for checkout and ordering, and when done it brings up a secured
download page
Hi Yohandy,
That was exactly my point. I basically wasn't suggesting that someone
actually upload and share the games for real. Only that someone jurk
their chain a little and convince them that we are going to go through
with it to bring them to the bargoning table and open a dialog with
their cu
Hi Dark,
Yeah, good point. In both cases we know that the companies are still
in business. With BSC we know that Justin is busy with work and family
so BSC Games has been sidelined, but not forgotten. While we don't
know exactly what Draconis is doing i do know that they are developing
a cross-pl
Hi Tom.
I did think this was the case, however the difference betwene code factory
and bavisoft is that bavisoft have flat out said "don't pirate our games"
where as code factory haven't (if they do I'll personally delete any such
topic discussing the matter from audiogames.net).
However, th
already done actually tom.
see my message to bavisoft.
Beware the Grue!
Dark.
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From: "Thomas Ward"
To: "Gamers Discussion list"
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 11:14 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
Hi Dark,
Not only
Hi Dark,
Umm...Where is that messsage? I'd like to read.
Smile.
On 12/16/10, dark wrote:
> already done actually tom.
>
> see my message to bavisoft.
>
> Beware the Grue!
>
> Dark.
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e way open for Bavisoft to say their piece.
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From: "Thomas Ward"
To: "Gamers Discussion list"
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 11:45 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
Hi Dark,
Umm...Where is that m
Hi Dark,
Actually, I do have something like that in mind. I've been thinking of
creating something like a cross between a Pitfall and Montezuma's
Revenge clone possably as freeware. Of course, if I'm clever about it
and write it with a totally new character, music, sounds, and slightly
new ideas I
ist"
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 11:51 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
Hi Dark,
Actually, I do have something like that in mind. I've been thinking of
creating something like a cross between a Pitfall and Montezuma's
Revenge clone possably as freeware
From: "Thomas Ward"
> To: "Gamers Discussion list"
> Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 11:45 AM
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
>
>
>> Hi Dark,
>>
>> Umm...Where is that messsage? I'd like to read.
>>
>> Smile.
puzzles gets a bit tedious, but sound
> quality and voice acting are both really good.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Tiffany Kim"
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 1:24 AM
> Subject: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
>
>
>> Hello Everyo
ad of Grizzly
Gulch.
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From: Shiny protector To: "Lori Duncan" ,"Gamers Discussion
list"
Date sent: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 17:50:54 -0000
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
Don't bother, mate. They have just vanished completely wit
To receive no response from the company except when you suggest that
they make their games abandonware is a pretty sorry state indeed. I
did locate an E-mail address when I clicked on the Paypal link, but I
wouldn't want to buy the games without knowing the address was a valid
one. For kicks and
agreed, if the games were completely terrible I wouldn't bother at all.
Beware the Grue!
dark.
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From: "Thomas Ward"
To: "Gamers Discussion list"
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 12:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
Hi Tiffany,
Well, if you are serious about writing your own games there are
definitely a couple of routes you can take.
If you don't mind purchasing an accessible game engine like BGT Philip
Bennefall has been developing a general purpose game engine for the VI
community called BGT. The nice thi
Hi Tiffany,
Have you tried my game Mysteries of the Ancients? It is in beta
testing right now, but it is a mixture of puzzle elements, treasure
hunting, as well as the ocational mythical monster or two to kill. You
can find it at
http://www.usagamesinteractive.com/mota.php
Cheers!
On 12/15/10,
3 words Tom "GO, FOR, IT!!"
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From: "Thomas Ward"
To: "Gamers Discussion list"
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 11:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
Hi,
Ooh...That gives me an extremely wicked thought. Let
Hi Lori,
Smile. Sorry, I can't really do that. Being both a game developer
myself and a moderator of a respected gaming list it wouldn't be a
good president to begin making threats like that to a fellow game
developer even if they deserve such a fate. I merely was thinking of a
"what if" type situ
You go for it
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From: "Tiffany Kim"
To: "Gamers Discussion list"
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 1:37 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
To receive no response from the company except when you suggest that
they make their
e Knights who say...Ni!
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From: "Tiffany Kim"
To: "Gamers Discussion list"
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 6:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
To receive no response from the company except when you suggest that
they make
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Hi Thoams,
Lol...we mustn't be too nasty to the good people of Bavisoft! But
seriously,
that's almost a good idea; we'd see if they're j
essage -
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Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 12:10 AM
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funnily enough Tom, I've been cconsiddering doing that very thing myself,
issuing them with an ultimatum.
shape
cause they
got flamed on Damions list. And BTW when was this? 6 years ago? Why 6
years?
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To: "Gamers Discussion list"
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 12:30 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
Hi Dar
Hi Dark,
I read your message and it seems reasonable. How ever, there is no response
from them.
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To: "Gamers Discussion list"
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 11:48 AM
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I did pos
Thanks Dark, I would abandan my plan. I'd just leive my mouth closed, and
see how Bavisoft take it.
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Shouldn't expect them to respond that soon... it'll come eventually.
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Hi Dark,
I read your message and it seems reasonable. How ever, there is no
response from them.
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To: "Gamers Discuss
st"
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 5:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
Hi,
Ooh...That gives me an extremely wicked thought. Let me just say I
know a way that would seriously light a fire under their collective
butts and might knock a little sense into Bavisoft.
Just
Hi Charles,
You got that right. As a game developer I respect other game
developer's and their companies right to market their products as they
wish. I do not have to respect what Bavisoft is doing to their
customers though. Therefore as a game developer I wouldn't pirate
their software, but would
Hi Muhammed,
Dark just posted the message a little while ago. You can't honestly
expect Bavisoft to respond that fast. I get loads of e-mails both
private and public and some times it takes me a day or two to actually
get to some of my messages.Therefore I wouldn't expect anything more
or less out
It is fabulous and challenging.
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From: "Thomas Ward"
To: "Gamers Discussion list"
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
Hi Tiffany,
Have you tried my game Mysteries of the Ancients? I
That is very true. I am waiting.
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To: "Gamers Discussion list"
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 3:37 PM
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He only just posted Muhamed. Give it time for Pete's sake. E
amers Discussion list
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Hi Dark,
I read your message and it seems reasonable. How ever, there is no response
from them.
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From: "dark"
To: "Gamers Discussion list"
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 11:48 AM
S
Don't bother, mate. They have just vanished completely without any traces.
So, just forget about them.
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Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 3:54 PM
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To: "Gamers Discussion list"
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 3:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
Hi Dark,
I read your message and it seems reasonable. How ever, there is no
response from them.
-
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Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 3:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Is Bavisoft Still Around?
Thanks Dark, I would abandan my plan. I'd just leive my mouth closed, and
see how Bavisoft take it.
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From: "dark"
Just a thought tom, as to the piece of your mind bit, if i remember rightly
they have a phone number on their site?
Obviously it's an us one, so me ringing it from over here would cost far too
much to be worth it, but maybe you could give them an ear bashing that way?
that is also, perfectly
I won't give up on a response until at least next wendsay, after that I'll
think again.
beware the grue!
dark.
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From: "Thomas Ward"
To: "Gamers Discussion list"
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 3:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] I
Hi,
Hmmm...I didn't know they were based in the states. For some reason I
thought they were based over in the U.K. Although, the fact they used
American voice talent should have clued me in. Lol!
On 12/16/10, dark wrote:
> Just a thought tom, as to the piece of your mind bit, if i remember righ
Heck no.
If they were in the Uk, I would've phoned them and pestered them far earlier
than this ;D.
Beware the Grue!
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Dark, I messaged you his phone number on the audiogames board. lol
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You might look into BGT, BLastbay Game Toolkit in case you don't know. It's
only in Beta stages right now but it's shaping up to be a powerful
development utility. The language may seem complicated at first (and I've in
no way begu
know when I'll have the
time to get back into it. It's still on my to-do list though.
We are the Knights who say...Ni!
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Thanks aprone, though I have a nasty feeling trans atlantic phone calls to
bavisoft could be rather expensive.
You might send the number to thomas ward if he'd considder phoning them in
his capacity as audeasy co list
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