[gdal-dev] ESRI file geodatabase support

2010-06-09 Thread Eduardo Kanegae
Hi, I´ve this topic at Google http://osgeo-org.1803224.n2.nabble.com/When-or-if-OGR-can-support-ESRI-file-geodatabase-td2592778.html Is there any plan for OGR on supporting this ESRI format or this will depend on 'when' ESRI be able to open this format specification. best regards -- Eduardo Pa

Re: [gdal-dev] ESRI file geodatabase support

2010-06-09 Thread Frank Warmerdam
Eduardo Kanegae wrote: Hi, I´ve this topic at Google http://osgeo-org.1803224.n2.nabble.com/When-or-if-OGR-can-support-ESRI-file-geodatabase-td2592778.html Is there any plan for OGR on supporting this ESRI format or this will depend on 'when' ESRI be able to open this format specification.

Re: [gdal-dev] ESRI file geodatabase support

2010-06-09 Thread Eduardo Kanegae
thanks for the help Frank, Or in less words: this support is still in development and we probably have to think in other solution to read fgdb´s using MapServer or other based on OGR or FDO interfaces. Eduardo 2010/6/9 Frank Warmerdam Eduardo Kanegae wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I´ve this topic at Go

Re: [gdal-dev] ESRI file geodatabase support

2010-06-09 Thread Ragi Burhum
#x27;d be willing to create that OGR driver once the SDK is out, I just need to have that SDK in hand :) - Ragi > From: Eduardo Kanegae > Subject: Re: [gdal-dev] ESRI file geodatabase support > To: gdal-dev@lists.osgeo.org > > thanks for the help Frank, > > Or in less words:

Re: [gdal-dev] ESRI file geodatabase support

2010-06-09 Thread Matt Wilkie
I've lost all confidence that ESRI's as yet unpublished API will be open enough to allow gdal/ogr to use it without reverse engineering. Although promised years ago (ESRI UC, 2007) they've been dragging their feet and being quite close mouthed about the whole thing. Even as recently as a few m

Re: [gdal-dev] ESRI file geodatabase support

2010-06-09 Thread Matt Wilkie
If you want to know how to use it, I sent an e-mail to the mailing list earlier http://www.mail-archive.com/gdal-dev@lists.osgeo.org/msg05562.html Hi Ragi, thanks for re-posting this. I missed the earlier announcement. matt wilkie Geomatics An

Re: [gdal-dev] ESRI file geodatabase support

2010-06-09 Thread Frank Warmerdam
Matt Wilkie wrote: Of course we can't ignore the fgdb as for better or ill we still live and operate within an ecosystem dominated by ESRI. It just won't be the next lingua franca, used by all as a common exchange format. Matt, I agree. I do not believe the file geodatabase will have a signi

Re: [gdal-dev] ESRI file geodatabase support

2010-06-09 Thread Eduardo Kanegae
Hi Ragi, You mean, unless I use this pre-built version you gave me ( http://bit.ly/cNdrSr ) I´ll have to download GDAL sources + AO patches and then build at Win box my own GDAL/MapServer bins to read this format? Am I right? Eduardo Ragi wrote>> Eduardo: Not sure what you mean, but the ArcObj

Re: [gdal-dev] ESRI file geodatabase support

2010-06-10 Thread Peter J Halls
In October 2008 at the European, Middle East and Africa (EMEA) User Conference, Jack Dangermond announced that the FGB format would be published, 'as was the shapefile', at the 9.4 release, following the completion of developments to the structure. We were then told to expect 9.4 in summer 2009

Re: [gdal-dev] ESRI file geodatabase support

2010-06-10 Thread Ragi Burhum
> From: Eduardo Kanegae > Subject: Re: [gdal-dev] ESRI file geodatabase support > To: gdal-dev@lists.osgeo.org > > Hi Ragi, > > You mean, unless I use this pre-built version you gave me ( > http://bit.ly/cNdrSr ) I´ll have to download GDAL sources + AO patches > and t

Re: [gdal-dev] ESRI file geodatabase support

2010-06-11 Thread Matt Wilkie
The earliest reference I found to a "promise" of an open specification for file-gdb was ESRI UC 2006, with discussion where of a forthcoming public specification mentioned as far back as ArcGIS 8.3. In many discussions people seem to use the terms open API and open file format specifications i

Re: [gdal-dev] ESRI file geodatabase support

2010-06-11 Thread Christopher Barker
Matt Wilkie wrote: "While ESRI would ideally like to open the file geodatabase format in a manner similar to what we did for shapefiles when we released ArcView 2, geodatabases are complex and can be easily corrupted outside the ArcGIS environment." Well, that to me says that either ESRI is m

Re: [gdal-dev] ESRI file geodatabase support

2010-06-11 Thread Lucena, Ivan
Matt, "While ESRI would ideally like to open the file geodatabase format in a manner similar to what we did for shapefiles when we released ArcView 2, geodatabases are complex and can be easily corrupted outside the ArcGIS environment. Instead, we plan to engineer a high performing and well d

Re: [gdal-dev] ESRI file geodatabase support

2010-06-11 Thread Matt Wilkie
[Chris] "While ESRI would ideally like to open the file geodatabase format in a manner similar to what we did for shapefiles when we released ArcView 2, geodatabases are complex and can be easily corrupted outside the ArcGIS environment." Well, that to me says that either ESRI is mis-informing

Re: [gdal-dev] ESRI file geodatabase support

2010-06-11 Thread Christopher Barker
Matt Wilkie wrote: The should do it because their customers need it to conduct their work as smooth and efficient manner as possible. It's about being free to use the best tool for the job at hand. Sure, they only will if their customers demand it -- how many are? I don't use ESRI products, b

Re: [gdal-dev] ESRI file geodatabase support

2010-06-13 Thread Ivan Lucena
Matt, > > ...but by the other hand, to develop and maintain the API would also > > be costly. So why should they do that? To give to the world a new > > free format so that people could use it without an ArcGIS license? > > The should do it because their customers need it to conduct their wo

Re: [gdal-dev] ESRI file geodatabase support

2010-06-13 Thread Peter J Halls
Matt, although we were told at the time that the EMEA 2008 Proceedings would be put online, I've yet to see them or hear of the result - I was a speaker and submitted my materials on time and as requested and that seems to have been the end of the story. Peter Matt Wilkie wrote: The earl

Re: [gdal-dev] ESRI file geodatabase support

2010-06-14 Thread Stefan Keller
Hi all At ESRI Developer Summit, March 22–25, 2010, Palm Springs, CA, they talked about the ArcGIS 10 to be expected in June 2010. But somebody (http://tinyurl.com/34nk558, 19. April 2010, german) said that the opening of the API (C++ only) won't make it into this release. But since this is a sto