gEDA-user: strange lines at the end of gerber files

2006-11-17 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
On monday the first gerbers made with pcb from the current iso image will go to the fab. I appreciate, that the layer commands have been reworked. No more identical layer names, no need to apply my renaming sed script :-) While looking at the gerbers, I notice that there is an additional layer at

gEDA-user: Wishes, bugs and misunderstandings

2006-11-17 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Some time ago I promised to turn my notes during my first geda projects into bug reports and feature requests and send them to this mailing list. Some of the issues may be resolved, some may be misunderstandings by a newbie and some may be known but need too much work. I hope you don't smack me if

gEDA-user: Questioning the separate label rule for symbols

2006-11-17 Thread Michael Sokolov
Hello fellow gEDA users, There is one rule about gschem symbols the rationale for which evades me. The symbol creation guide says that the device= attribute should be made invisible and not used as a label, and that the label should be a separate text object. And indeed all standard symbols foll

Re: gEDA-user: Hello list

2006-11-17 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Darryl Gibson wrote: I'm under time constraints to get this project done. So I'm cheating, and using RCY100 for the resistors. uh ... what's rcy100? Phil ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listi

Re: gEDA-user: connecting symbols that look nothing like their footprint

2006-11-17 Thread DJ Delorie
> I put an example of how I did two transistors in one package. DJ's > preview drew the lines 10X thicker than they show up in > gschem... not sure what is off...I'm using very recent cvs of both > gschem and pcb... I'll try to find time to look into that over the weekend.

Re: gEDA-user: connecting symbols that look nothing like their footprint

2006-11-17 Thread John Griessen
Meador, Ryan D wrote: Thank you for your quick replies. I put an example of how I did two transistors in one package. DJ's preview drew the lines 10X thicker than they show up in gschem... not sure what is off...I'm using very recent cvs of both gschem and pcb... http://www.gedasymbols

Re: gEDA-user: connecting symbols that look nothing like their footprint

2006-11-17 Thread John Griessen
Meador, Ryan D wrote: laying out symbols to be logical rather than reflect the actual look of the device. is the only option for me to redraw the symbol to have 8 pins and then connect the ones that should be connected on the schematic? You can redo the symbol so it looks the same, but ye

Re: gEDA-user: LED in reverse

2006-11-17 Thread Darryl Gibson
Karel Kulhavy wrote: Do you know at which voltage a typical red LED breaks down in reverse? 100V? Nope, 5v, and some are as low as 3v. What happens when the diode is charged slowly with a current source of say 0.5mA until it breaks down and it's internal capacitance discharges by avalanche?

Re: gEDA-user: LED in reverse

2006-11-17 Thread Dan McMahill
Samuel A. Falvo II wrote: On 11/17/06, joeft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If you are talking about a current applied in the "reverse" direction it won't light up at all. I haven't looked at the very bright LEDs that have been marketed recently, but in general I would say that most LEDs make lous

Re: gEDA-user: connecting symbols that look nothing like their footprint

2006-11-17 Thread DJ Delorie
Have you tried just naming the pins all the same? The autorouter might not do the right thing, but DRC shouldn't complain. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: connecting symbols that look nothing like their footprint

2006-11-17 Thread Meador, Ryan D
Thank you for your quick replies. Unfortunately, I don't think I adequately conveyed my question... your answers didn't tell me anything I don't already know. Please pardon me for not quoting them, here, as between the 3 I received so far, it would be a lot of text. I'm aware it is bad practice

Re: gEDA-user: Hello list

2006-11-17 Thread Darryl Gibson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Darryl Gibson wrote: But, I would really, really like my resistors, and diodes standing up, not laying down. Darryl here are three vertical footprints. I've used them before. I just cleaned them up a little. Let the list know if they work for you. These foots ar

Re: gEDA-user: Hello list

2006-11-17 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Darryl Gibson wrote: But, I would really, really like my resistors, and diodes standing up, not laying down. Darryl here are three vertical footprints. I've used them before. I just cleaned them up a little. Let the list know if they work for you. These foots are named withing the Elemen

Re: gEDA-user: LED in reverse

2006-11-17 Thread Samuel A. Falvo II
On 11/17/06, joeft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If you are talking about a current applied in the "reverse" direction it won't light up at all. I haven't looked at the very bright LEDs that have been marketed recently, but in general I would say that most LEDs make lousy capacitors and won't store

Re: gEDA-user: LED in reverse

2006-11-17 Thread joeft
Karel Kulhavy wrote: Do you know at which voltage a typical red LED breaks down in reverse? 100V? No, more like 5v or so. LEDs are not designed for high reverse breakdown voltages. What happens when the diode is charged slowly with a current source of say 0.5mA until it breaks down and i

Re: gEDA-user: LED in reverse

2006-11-17 Thread John Griessen
Karel Kulhavy wrote: Do you know at which voltage a typical red LED breaks down in reverse? 100V? [jg]usual is 10, 15, 20 Volts onlyfor the ones from 1979 in a hemisphere on cylinder plastic molding What happens when the diode is charged slowly with a current source of say 0.5mA

gEDA-user: LED in reverse

2006-11-17 Thread Karel Kulhavy
Do you know at which voltage a typical red LED breaks down in reverse? 100V? What happens when the diode is charged slowly with a current source of say 0.5mA until it breaks down and it's internal capacitance discharges by avalanche? Will it blink or stay dark in the process? Wikipedia says an a

Re: gEDA-user: connecting symbols that look nothing like their footprint

2006-11-17 Thread John Griessen
Meador, Ryan D wrote: my real problem has to do with the fact that my FET's package is SO8. 3 pins are source, 4 are drain and 1 is gate. How to I convey to gschem that the single source and drain symbol pins should actually be connected to multiple physical pins? The secret is "conne

Re: gEDA-user: connecting symbols that look nothing like their footprint

2006-11-17 Thread John Luciani
On 11/17/06, Meador, Ryan D <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This issue has also come up with parts that have many ground connections, such as the ADXL321 accelerometer; it would be logical for the symbol to have 1 ground pin connected to many physical pins, but until I ran up against this problem with

Re: gEDA-user: connecting symbols that look nothing like their footprint

2006-11-17 Thread Stuart Brorson
[.] my real problem has to do with the fact that my FET's package is SO8. 3 pins are source, 4 are drain and 1 is gate. How to I convey to gschem that the single source and drain symbol pins should actually be connected to multiple physical pins? Redraw the symbol to incorporate multiple p

gEDA-user: connecting symbols that look nothing like their footprint

2006-11-17 Thread Meador, Ryan D
Hi all, I'm at the stage in my circuit design where I need to start worrying about converting my schematic to a PCB. I was playing with PCB earlier today and I found the official PCB documentation to be very, very helpful - I wish the gschem docs were as good (the gschem wiki seems a little scatte