Re: gEDA-user: gerber to .dxf converter

2006-12-09 Thread Dave N6NZ
DJ Delorie wrote: It's common to want to move PCB layouts into cad for chassis layout work. What would be involved in giving PCB this feature? Write an export HID. It's the same way we export gerber and postscript. .dxf would be very cool... but having been fooling with .dxf lately, i'd

Re: gEDA-user: gerber to .dxf converter

2006-12-09 Thread Dave N6NZ
hhmmm... QCAD only opens .dxf, pstoedit only opens PS, not EPS. But I guess if I don't do 'fill page' I should be OK. -dave DJ Delorie wrote: PCB is free, and it'll export .eps. Oh, right. EPS, not PS output. Both are Postscript, and thus rasterized, but the PS output may be scaled to fit

Re: gEDA-user: making gnetlist calm down

2006-12-09 Thread David Kuehling
Hi, thanks for your answer. Ales Hvezda [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [snip] Found duplicate net name, renaming [+3.3V] to [BS1] WARNING: Trying to rename something twice: +3.3V and +3.3V are both a src and dest name This warning is okay if you have multiple levels of hierarchy! This

Re: gEDA-user: New gnucap development snapshot

2006-12-09 Thread Colin Hall
Hi Al, System: Apple iMac Processor: PowerPC G4 OS: Mac OS X 10.3.9 Other: Fink is installed. Downloaded, untarred, configured, compiled and linked without error. The user manual built just fine. Commands were: [iMacG4:~] cgh% [iMacG4:~] cgh% tar -xf

Re: gEDA-user: New gnucap development snapshot

2006-12-09 Thread Dan McMahill
Colin Hall wrote: Hi Al, System: Apple iMac Processor: PowerPC G4 OS: Mac OS X 10.3.9 Other: Fink is installed. Downloaded, untarred, configured, compiled and linked without error. The user manual built just fine. Commands were: [iMacG4:~] cgh% [iMacG4:~] cgh% tar -xf

gEDA-user: PCB problem - bug?

2006-12-09 Thread Harold D. Skank
People, I'm using the PCB package from the 20060907 gEDA disk release (thanks to Stuart Brorson). In the course of my current design effort, I elected to move some bypass capacitors to the back side (solder) of the board. No problem so far. When I routed the board I found that router was

Re: gEDA-user: CVS gnetlist gsch2pcb problems

2006-12-09 Thread Jeff Mallatt
At 2006-12-08 12:24, Stuart Brorson wrote: On Fri, 8 Dec 2006, Peter TB Brett wrote: On Friday 08 December 2006 16:04, Stuart Brorson wrote: What version of guile do you have? The latest guile, 1.8.1 which comes on some of the latest distros seems to have broken a lot of things. Ales is

Re: gEDA-user: PCB fab supplies -- drills

2006-12-09 Thread John Griessen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Once I broke all the best sizes from this set, I went to high speed. I drill everything wet to keep the dust down and have been happy with steel. The recommendation to use dental burrs for prototyping has some merit. The burrs are short compared to the pcb fab

Re: gEDA-user: gerber to .dxf converter

2006-12-09 Thread John Griessen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As I understand it, dxf is open. I don't really know if there are gnu or open code modules for creating and working with them There are a couple of python cad programs with open source to look at that do some .ps and .dxf output, and no importing. Pythoncad and

Re: gEDA-user: gerber to .dxf converter

2006-12-09 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
John Griessen wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PCB is free, and it'll export .eps. It's not a dxf but perhaps your cad application can import it. You'll have to give it a scale So, did this keep the stroked vectors nature of the data, or rasterize it finely? Keep it vector, and either

Re: gEDA-user: gerber to .dxf converter

2006-12-09 Thread Dave N6NZ
John Griessen wrote: There are a couple of python cad programs with open source to look at that do some .ps and .dxf output, and no importing. Pythoncad and cadvas source code might be helpful in learning curve to get PCB to write out .dxf. From an overall work flow perspective, it might

Re: gEDA-user: gerber to .dxf converter

2006-12-09 Thread Dan McMahill
Dave N6NZ wrote: John Griessen wrote: There are a couple of python cad programs with open source to look at that do some .ps and .dxf output, and no importing. Pythoncad and cadvas source code might be helpful in learning curve to get PCB to write out .dxf. From an overall work flow

Re: gEDA-user: gerber to .dxf converter

2006-12-09 Thread DJ Delorie
The advantage of going pcb-dxf and not gerber-dxf is that you only have to worry about supporting the data we have, which is significantly simpler than trying to support a generic gerber file. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org

gEDA-user: practical pcb layout-fu (was: router theory)

2006-12-09 Thread John Griessen
Stefan Salewski wrote: What do you think about a combination of Lee's and ants algorithm? Lee's algorithm finds a set of (overlapping) paths between two points, which includes the shortest and best path. And ants algorithm seems to be good to optimize these path, which is to select the best

Re: gEDA-user: practical pcb layout-fu (was: router theory)

2006-12-09 Thread Stefan Salewski
John Griessen wrote: [...] switch easily between rule sets [...] I fully agree. No autorouter can guess which cost factors are more important than others, and human aid will often be necessary. Some years ago I did a pcb with the autorouter of Eagle, and after finetuning all parameters I got

Re: gEDA-user: practical pcb layout-fu

2006-12-09 Thread Harry Eaton
John Griessen wrote: So. with those ideas in mind, a GUI or hotkey set of commands to switch between different weightings of costs for different signal paths would be good. Different rules for RF and short med speed digital paths, and audio and heat dissipating power zones. switch easily

Re: gEDA-user: gerber to .dxf converter

2006-12-09 Thread Dave N6NZ
DJ Delorie wrote: The advantage of going pcb-dxf and not gerber-dxf is that you only have to worry about supporting the data we have, which is significantly simpler than trying to support a generic gerber file. Oh yes, I hear that. What's easy and what's most generally useful seldom overlap.

Re: gEDA-user: CVS gnetlist gsch2pcb problems

2006-12-09 Thread Ales Hvezda
[snip] He has other syntax changes to report for the various .scm files.. I'll let him do that. Yes, I will be checking in some fixes for guile-1.8.1 once I have finished testing them. -Ales