Re: gEDA-user: New gwave 20090124 on Sourceforge

2009-02-06 Thread DJ Delorie
steve tell t...@telltronics.org writes: In-Reply-To: 200902051423.n15enbrk028...@envy.delorie.com Please don't use reply-to some existing message to start a new thread. Despite changing the subject, the systems keep track of what it's a reply to (see above), and it ends up being threaded under

Re: gEDA-user: label printing

2009-02-06 Thread Stephan Boettcher
Levente Kovacs leventel...@gmail.com writes: I would like to print labels. For this I'd generate N times some labels, with slight different content. Then I have N *.eps file. Question. How do I merge them into one A4 postscript page? I'd try 'pstops', after some tool to merge the N .eps

Re: gEDA-user: Preferred debugger/development environment: PCB

2009-02-06 Thread Stephan Boettcher
DJ Delorie d...@delorie.com writes: those who hack on the source code: what do you use for debugging and development of the project? emacs, gdb in xterm. debugging with: gdb in emacs (optionally in xterm) ___ geda-user mailing list

Re: gEDA-user: new symbols

2009-02-06 Thread Ales Hvezda
[snip] Ask Ales for an account and add your section to the site. Just remember, that your name is attached to the collection. IMHO, it's nice to have a collection of z80 related symbols in the lib. I have absolutely no responsibilities on gedasymbols.org. You need to contact DJ Delorie for an

Re: gEDA-user: Preferred debugger/development environment: PCB

2009-02-06 Thread Ethan Swint
Same as any other program I'm hacking on: gdb (and/or printfs) for debugging, usually my favourite text editor (a non-GNU emacs, I think a Gosling derivative) for writing code and such. Why? Seems to me it matters more what you're used to than what we use. I've done most of my

Re: gEDA-user: new symbols

2009-02-06 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
On Fri, 06 Feb 2009 07:37:25 -0500, Ales Hvezda wrote: I have absolutely no responsibilities on gedasymbols.org. You need to contact DJ Delorie for an account there. Sorry. I confused this with the geda wiki. ---(kaimartin)--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak tel:

Re: gEDA-user: Building the PCB+GL branch [WAS: Re: Open GL survey (for PCB)]

2009-02-06 Thread Peter Clifton
On Fri, 2009-02-06 at 11:48 +0100, Gabriel Paubert wrote: I've not switched on anti-aliasing. I think it is important the geometry has hard edges, and anti-aliasing will just increase memory requirements / reduce rendering speed. (IIRC, it just renders bigger than required, then filters

Re: gEDA-user: Preferred debugger/development environment: PCB

2009-02-06 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
On Fri, 06 Feb 2009 08:02:06 -0500, Ethan Swint wrote: I've done most of my programming in M$ Visual Studio, geany or anjuta may make you feel more comfortable than the hard core tools vi and emacs. ---(kaimartin)--- ___ geda-user mailing list

Re: gEDA-user: new symbols

2009-02-06 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
On Fri, 06 Feb 2009 06:47:27 +0100, Oliver Lehmann wrote: So... are they fine now? I see no obvious problems. Two minor remarks: I tend to keep attributes on grid and avoid implicit power nets. Both are a matter of personal taste rather than technical problems.

Re: gEDA-user: Building the PCB+GL branch [WAS: Re: Open GL survey (for PCB)]

2009-02-06 Thread Dave McGuire
On Feb 6, 2009, at 10:08 AM, Peter Clifton wrote: I'm not so convinced applying the terminology anti-aliasing is correct for jaggies on object edges. Its certainly not what I'd call aliasing on a digital oscillocope.. that matches the texture-sampling case. The edges are more a

Re: gEDA-user: Building the PCB+GL branch [WAS: Re: Open GL survey (for PCB)]

2009-02-06 Thread der Mouse
And if I had a nickel for every time I've heard people, even knowledgeable people, incorrectly use the term broadband to mean high-speed Internet connection (when most such connections are, in fact, baseband).. They are? DSL certainly isn't (the baseband there is the audio range, which DSL

Re: gEDA-user: new symbols

2009-02-06 Thread DJ Delorie
I have absolutely no responsibilities on gedasymbols.org. You need to contact DJ Delorie for an account there. And, as a general rule, I like to have people submit some symbols here first, for review, before asking for an account on gedasymbols. It's a slightly higher barrier for entry, and

Re: gEDA-user: Building the PCB+GL branch [WAS: Re: Open GL survey (for PCB)]

2009-02-06 Thread David C. Kerber
-Original Message- From: geda-user-boun...@moria.seul.org [mailto:geda-user-boun...@moria.seul.org] On Behalf Of Dave McGuire Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 12:57 PM To: gEDA user mailing list Subject: Re: gEDA-user: Building the PCB+GL branch [WAS: Re: Open GL survey (for PCB)]

Re: gEDA-user: Building the PCB+GL branch [WAS: Re: Open GL survey (for PCB)]

2009-02-06 Thread Dave McGuire
On Feb 6, 2009, at 1:14 PM, David C. Kerber wrote: And if I had a nickel for every time I've heard people, even knowledgeable people, incorrectly use the term broadband to mean high-speed Internet connection (when most such connections are, in fact, baseband).. They are? DSL certainly

Re: gEDA-user: Building the PCB+GL branch [WAS: Re: Open GL survey (for PCB)]

2009-02-06 Thread DJ Delorie
And for the past 10-15 years or so, the last mile of most T1 data circuits have been delivered via a form of DSL, and they typically have no voice support either. Not mine. I got all four wires :-) ___ geda-user mailing list

Re: gEDA-user: Building the PCB+GL branch [WAS: Re: Open GL survey (for PCB)]

2009-02-06 Thread der Mouse
They are? DSL certainly isn't (the baseband there is the audio range, which DSL specifically avoids) and, My definition of broadband is multiple communication channels sharing bandwidth on the same medium, which does not, IMO, describe DSL. What is yours? The one from which my remarks were

Re: gEDA-user: Building the PCB+GL branch [WAS: Re: Open GL survey (for PCB)]

2009-02-06 Thread Dave McGuire
On Feb 6, 2009, at 1:28 PM, DJ Delorie wrote: And for the past 10-15 years or so, the last mile of most T1 data circuits have been delivered via a form of DSL, and they typically have no voice support either. Not mine. I got all four wires :-) On your side of the smartjack, I'm sure you

Re: gEDA-user: Building the PCB+GL branch [WAS: Re: Open GL survey (for PCB)]

2009-02-06 Thread DJ Delorie
On your side of the smartjack, I'm sure you do. Actually, four wires all the way out the driveway. I know it's not the two-wire variety because the last time they had to fix it, they commented on the fact that I hadn't been upgraded to the two-wire one. I have two lightning protectors in

Re: gEDA-user: Building the PCB+GL branch [WAS: Re: Open GL survey (for PCB)]

2009-02-06 Thread Daniel Svärd
The one from which my remarks were derived came from googling and reading three or four pages which gave definitions, such as [1]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baseband and [2]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broadband. It is that baseband uses the frequency range whose

Re: gEDA-user: Building the PCB+GL branch [WAS: Re: Open GL survey (for PCB)]

2009-02-06 Thread Dave McGuire
On Feb 6, 2009, at 1:02 PM, der Mouse wrote: They are? DSL certainly isn't (the baseband there is the audio range, which DSL specifically avoids) and, My definition of broadband is multiple communication channels sharing bandwidth on the same medium, which does not, IMO, describe DSL. What

Re: gEDA-user: Building the PCB+GL branch [WAS: Re: Open GL survey (for PCB)]

2009-02-06 Thread David C. Kerber
Mine had two wires, and carried both my voice and data, with a line filter to block the noise from the voice lines. -Original Message- From: geda-user-boun...@moria.seul.org [mailto:geda-user-boun...@moria.seul.org] On Behalf Of DJ Delorie Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 1:29 PM

Re: gEDA-user: Building the PCB+GL branch [WAS: Re: Open GL survey (for PCB)]

2009-02-06 Thread Dave McGuire
On Feb 6, 2009, at 1:35 PM, DJ Delorie wrote: On your side of the smartjack, I'm sure you do. Actually, four wires all the way out the driveway. I know it's not the two-wire variety because the last time they had to fix it, they commented on the fact that I hadn't been upgraded to the

Re: gEDA-user: Building the PCB+GL branch [WAS: Re: Open GL survey (for PCB)]

2009-02-06 Thread Dave McGuire
You have a T1 circuit with voice+data using a line filter?? -Dave On Feb 6, 2009, at 1:40 PM, David C. Kerber wrote: Mine had two wires, and carried both my voice and data, with a line filter to block the noise from the voice lines. -Original Message- From:

Re: gEDA-user: Building the PCB+GL branch [WAS: Re: Open GL survey (for PCB)]

2009-02-06 Thread DJ Delorie
Wow, that's pretty unusual! Yup, but then again, I *can't* get regular DSL service here. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: Building the PCB+GL branch [WAS: Re: Open GL survey (for PCB)]

2009-02-06 Thread Dave McGuire
On Feb 6, 2009, at 1:47 PM, DJ Delorie wrote: Wow, that's pretty unusual! Yup, but then again, I *can't* get regular DSL service here. I had exactly that problem when I lived in Cape Coral, FL...wound up having to get a T-1 at close to $400/mo. Fortunately I was able to defray that

Re: gEDA-user: Building the PCB+GL branch [WAS: Re: Open GL survey (for PCB)]

2009-02-06 Thread der Mouse
[...], while me, having grown up (at least chronologically!) in the 1970s, broadband is a more relaxed way of saying multiple information channels via frequency-division multiplexing on multiple independent carriers. And, doesn't DSL fit that? At the physical layer, at least - the multiple

Re: gEDA-user: Building the PCB+GL branch [WAS: Re: Open GL survey (for PCB)]

2009-02-06 Thread DJ Delorie
I have a friend who lives 0.5 miles from the CO. Unfortunately, if you *drive* to the CO it's 4 miles or so. The wires go under a river, it seems! He got DSL once by finding someone who knew the wiring layout and was willing to TDR the lines to prove it to management, but something happened

Re: gEDA-user: Building the PCB+GL branch [WAS: Re: Open GL survey (for PCB)]

2009-02-06 Thread Dave McGuire
On Feb 6, 2009, at 1:59 PM, DJ Delorie wrote: I have a friend who lives 0.5 miles from the CO. Unfortunately, if you *drive* to the CO it's 4 miles or so. The wires go under a river, it seems! He got DSL once by finding someone who knew the wiring layout and was willing to TDR the lines to

Re: gEDA-user: Building the PCB+GL branch [WAS: Re: Open GL survey (for PCB)]

2009-02-06 Thread David C. Kerber
-Original Message- From: geda-user-boun...@moria.seul.org [mailto:geda-user-boun...@moria.seul.org] On Behalf Of Dave McGuire Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 1:44 PM To: gEDA user mailing list Subject: Re: gEDA-user: Building the PCB+GL branch [WAS: Re: Open GL survey (for PCB)]

Re: gEDA-user: Building the PCB+GL branch [WAS: Re: Open GL survey (for PCB)]

2009-02-06 Thread Michael Sokolov
Dave McGuire mcgu...@neurotica.com wrote: My last two DSL circuits had no voice capability. Ahh, the difference between ADSL and SDSL. One of my pet peeves is people saying DSL to mean ADSL... Time to plug my Open SDSL Connectivity Project: http://ifctfvax.Harhan.ORG/OpenSDSL/ Hey, I drew

Re: gEDA-user: Building the PCB+GL branch [WAS: Re: Open GL survey (for PCB)]

2009-02-06 Thread Michael Sokolov
DJ Delorie d...@delorie.com wrote: Actually, four wires all the way out the driveway. I know it's not the two-wire variety because the last time they had to fix it, they commented on the fact that I hadn't been upgraded to the two-wire one. I have two lightning protectors in the demarc box,

Re: gEDA-user: Building the PCB+GL branch [WAS: Re: Open GL survey (for PCB)]

2009-02-06 Thread DJ Delorie
Hmm. The fact that you have a smartjack demark at all (do you?) No. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

gEDA-user: gwave: building on openSUSE, various comments

2009-02-06 Thread Werner Hoch
Hi Steve and all, I've build gwave on openSUSE, here are some comments about it. 1. Dependancies === The openSUSE distributions (10.3, 11.0, 11.1) all have a broken g-wrap package. The pkgconfig file is broken and I needed to rebuild g-wrap first.