Re: gEDA-user: dsn exporter

2009-08-01 Thread Levente Kovacs
On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 12:46:48 -0700 (PDT) Josh Jordan outerspaceman81-/e1597as9lqavxtiumw...@public.gmane.org wrote: This exporter outputs a .dsn file for opening with freeroute.net.  It only works on 2 layer designs so far.  I searched google about this file format, and found that it has

Re: gEDA-user: Yet another netlister

2009-08-01 Thread r
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 8:49 PM, A.Burinskiyalexb...@gmail.com wrote: Dear gEDA community members, I created yet another netlister for gschem. Netlister supports flattened or hierarchical netlist, handles slotting and global net names. Will be glad to hear any feedback. The source located in:

Re: gEDA-user: dsn exporter

2009-08-01 Thread Josh Jordan
It wont do what you want for orcad. It really only transfers pins and pads, and stores every part as a seperate library entry. A real dsn importer/exporter would be a lot of work but then we could be compatible with orcad and whoever else. I posted an updated version recently

Re: gEDA-user: Yet another netlister

2009-08-01 Thread John Doty
On Aug 1, 2009, at 4:17 AM, r wrote: On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 8:49 PM, A.Burinskiyalexb...@gmail.com wrote: Dear gEDA community members, I created yet another netlister for gschem. Netlister supports flattened or hierarchical netlist, handles slotting and global net names. Will be

Re: gEDA-user: Yet another netlister

2009-08-01 Thread A.Burinskiy
Hi R, I thought about implementing some language for netlist and after all I decided to go with plain C++ and get rid of using device attribute unless it is absolutely necessary (such as input/output pin) and give more strength to user symbol definition relying on the fact that end user knows

Re: gEDA-user: Yet another netlister

2009-08-01 Thread r
On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 2:49 PM, A.Burinskiyalexb...@gmail.com wrote: I thought about implementing some language for netlist and after all I decided to go with plain C++ and get rid of using device attribute unless it is absolutely necessary (such as input/output pin) and give more strength to

Re: gEDA-user: Yet another netlister

2009-08-01 Thread r
On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 2:37 PM, John Dotyj...@noqsi.com wrote: Hmm, I think Guile is fine for gnetlist's purposes. A minor problem has been backward compatibility, leading to dependency hell. The people who package the distros have this under better control than they did a few years ago.

Re: gEDA-user: Yet another netlister

2009-08-01 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
On Sat, 01 Aug 2009 11:17:10 +0100, r wrote: I'm a bit puzzled that all of you tend to choose C/C++ for implementing your tools. like ist, or not, C is the lingua franca of computer science. I have yet to meet an IT professional, who has never written any C code. In addition, C is the

Re: gEDA-user: Yet another netlister

2009-08-01 Thread John Doty
On Aug 1, 2009, at 9:21 AM, r wrote: Well, I see several other problems here as well: 1. Guile (as a Scheme implementation) is not particularly well supported, this leads to dependency hell and missing/incomplete wrappers for modern libraries (like gtk2 - not really a problem for gnetlist

Re: gEDA-user: Simple JFET Preamp Simulation

2009-08-01 Thread Joerg
Michael B Allen wrote: Hi, I can't get a simulation of this circuit to run: http://207.192.69.113/~miallen/JFET_Preamp_1.pdf I copied this from about half-way down this page: http://www.ciphersbyritter.com/RADELECT/PREJFET/JFETPRE.HTM Ok, I am not using GNU-cap or gEDA, but:

Re: gEDA-user: Yet another netlister

2009-08-01 Thread John Doty
On Aug 1, 2009, at 10:03 AM, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: On Sat, 01 Aug 2009 11:17:10 +0100, r wrote: I'm a bit puzzled that all of you tend to choose C/C++ for implementing your tools. like ist, or not, C is the lingua franca of computer science. I have yet to meet an IT professional,

gEDA-user: anyone have scg2svg converter?

2009-08-01 Thread asomers
A long time ago someone posted to this list about a converter he had written to produce svg files from schematics. His website, http://www.mycgiserver.com/~emem00/sch2svg/, is gone. Then in 2007 somebody posted to geda-dev that they had mirrored the script at

gEDA-user: where is gschem font width measure function?

2009-08-01 Thread Dave N6NZ
I'm working on a gschem symbol generator(*). I'd like to measure text width the same way that gschem does when calculating symbol width. For a long time, I've been using a personal derivative of djboxsym -- DJ's code simply takes strlen() * 110 and uses that. It's a good estimate, but can

Re: gEDA-user: Yet another netlister

2009-08-01 Thread r
On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 5:09 PM, John Dotyj...@noqsi.com wrote: Perhaps not Guile, but we're going to have to keep Scheme around for a long time, because all those back ends are important. It's not that there's a lot of code in them, but they embody a great deal of research into just what each

Re: gEDA-user: Yet another netlister

2009-08-01 Thread John Doty
On Aug 1, 2009, at 11:45 AM, r wrote: On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 5:09 PM, John Dotyj...@noqsi.com wrote: Perhaps not Guile, but we're going to have to keep Scheme around for a long time, because all those back ends are important. It's not that there's a lot of code in them, but they embody a

Re: gEDA-user: messed up ratsnest- help me understand

2009-08-01 Thread Ben Jackson
On Sat, Aug 01, 2009 at 03:07:43PM -0700, Josh Jordan wrote: Please open this file and suggest what might be going on. Your layer grouping is wrong. Your board has two layers but one of them is marked as both the top AND bottom of the board, causing pads to short to traces on both layers.

gEDA-user: gEDA just hit SlashDotOrg

2009-08-01 Thread Bob Paddock
http://tech.slashdot.org/story/09/08/01/2114210/Cheap-Cross-Platform-Electronic-Circuit-Simulation-Software?from=rss Cheap, Cross-Platform Electronic Circuit Simulation Software? dv82 writes I teach circuits and electronics at the undergraduate level, and have been using the free student demo

Re: gEDA-user: where is gschem font width measure function?

2009-08-01 Thread DJ Delorie
Note that the sym2eps converter I use for gedasymbols.org has a more accurate width-measuring thing, although still not as accurate as gschem. It assumes the font is helvetica-like. The sources are in my gedasymbols area, under tools. ___ geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA just hit SlashDotOrg

2009-08-01 Thread evan foss
You know the mechanical people have a livecd or I think it is dvd now. Perhaps we should have an electronics live disk of some kind? On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 9:01 PM, Bob Paddockbob.padd...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA just hit SlashDotOrg

2009-08-01 Thread DJ Delorie
IMHO it would be better to have a gEDA that runs on Windows. We have a PCB that runs on windows... ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA just hit SlashDotOrg

2009-08-01 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
key sentence: gEDA is friendly to everything BUT Windows, and is nowhere near as refined as OrCad. So gEDA kind of anti-hit slash dot. The discussion is about everything except geda. Anyone to stand up and bash the poster of the topic for his judgement? ---(kaimartin)--- -- Kai-Martin

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA just hit SlashDotOrg

2009-08-01 Thread DJ Delorie
Anyone to stand up and bash the poster of the topic for his judgement? His judgement is pretty much dead on. Many people on this list are openly hostile to Windows users, and we certainly haven't gone through the effort to make our software install and run smoothly on Windows. What ports we

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA just hit SlashDotOrg

2009-08-01 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
On Sat, 01 Aug 2009 21:55:48 -0400, DJ Delorie wrote: His judgement is pretty much dead on. Many people on this list are openly hostile to Windows users, and we certainly haven't gone through the effort to make our software install and run smoothly on Windows. True. On the other hand, orcad

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA just hit SlashDotOrg

2009-08-01 Thread John Griessen
Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: key sentence: gEDA is friendly to everything BUT Windows, and is nowhere near as refined as OrCad. So gEDA kind of anti-hit slash dot. The discussion is about everything except geda. Oh, he may just be asking for just what DJ said, a windows, Mac, Linux EDA

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA just hit SlashDotOrg

2009-08-01 Thread Josh Jordan
What a doofus. You can get any free-trial/limited commerical software and hmm formulate the lesson to fit within the restrictions... Electronics text books include 1 or several restricted commercial cad softwares for this purpose. I don't see anything wrong with teaching to a

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA just hit SlashDotOrg (why live CD wouldn't work)

2009-08-01 Thread igor2
On Sat, 1 Aug 2009, evan foss wrote: You know the mechanical people have a livecd or I think it is dvd now. Perhaps we should have an electronics live disk of some kind? For a few semesters I was teaching gschem/pcb for undergrads. In the very first semester I tried with live cd (one I built