Re: gEDA-user: More strange ideas: Start PCB layout from symbols view

2009-11-26 Thread Peter Clifton
On Wed, 2009-11-25 at 17:37 -0500, DJ Delorie wrote: You know what would be cool? Being able to drag and drop symbols from gschem into pcb, and have it load the right footprint. That isn't actually that crazy.. Somewhat impractical due to rubber-banding within gschem, but if a modifier key

Re: gEDA-user: Do any gEDA users depend on tear-off menus with GTK? (Using gEDA apps)

2009-11-26 Thread Peter Clifton
On Wed, 2009-11-25 at 21:56 +, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:02:23 +, Peter Clifton wrote: done. I should have been clear.. don't speak to me.. speak to the GTK developers ;) _I_ should have been clear: I did speak to the developers via a comment to the

gEDA-user: PCB not saving silkscreen when I try to make footprints

2009-11-26 Thread Anthony Shanks
Hi I am using PCB to make footprints and I'm having a problem with PCB not saving the silkscreen along with the pins. Here is my proceedure for making the footprints. 1. Draw the silkscreen and pins (drawn with vias in the component layer) 2. Select all objects 3. Copy selection to buffer 4.

Re: gEDA-user: Switch gschem to another scripting language?

2009-11-26 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 18:24:18 -0500, Stuart Brorson wrote: 2. Use as a language one can use to automate various actions in gschem. This is probably closer to the way Eagle users think about scripting Eagle. IMO, Scheme is an excellent language for use 1. Other languages aren't really

Re: gEDA-user: More strange ideas: Start PCB layout from symbols view

2009-11-26 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:39:12 -0500, Dan McMahill wrote: the code is there today, right now, Now you are talking! that lets you launch pcb from a running instance of gschem and when you select a component in gschem, then pcb will automatically select it. Arrgh! I am missing this cross

Re: gEDA-user: PCB not saving silkscreen when I try to make footprints

2009-11-26 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Thu, 2009-11-26 at 16:04 -0800, Anthony Shanks wrote: Hi I am using PCB to make footprints and I'm having a problem with PCB not saving the silkscreen along with the pins. Here is my proceedure for making the footprints. 1. Draw the silkscreen and pins (drawn with vias in the component

Re: gEDA-user: howto print with pcb -x eps ?

2009-11-26 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:47:57 -0500, DJ Delorie wrote: It takes layer GROUP numbers, or layer NAMES. Layer groups are numbered starting at zero, just for inconsistency. Lets see: Layer definition of my current project is: Groups(1,2,3,c:4,5,6,s:7:8) I assume, the special groups top

Re: gEDA-user: How to deal with single/dual parts?

2009-11-26 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 13:07:37 +, Peter Clifton wrote: The issue which is somewhat tricky is how to place the numbers - assuming they didn't exist in the symbol to start with. We'd have to get our auto-placement heuristics out, I, for one, wouldn't care. Autoplacement has caused me a bit of

Re: gEDA-user: PCB not saving silkscreen when I try to make footprints

2009-11-26 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
On Thu, 26 Nov 2009 16:04:35 -0800, Anthony Shanks wrote: 1. Draw the silkscreen and pins (drawn with vias in the component layer) 2. Select all objects 3. Copy selection to buffer 4. Convert buffer to element 5. Save buffer elements to file Thats ok. (I do all my footprints that way)

Re: gEDA-user: PCB: AutoRouter

2009-11-26 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Sun, 2009-11-22 at 13:29 +1300, Anthony Blake wrote: Stefan Salewski wrote: Is option --enable-toporouter-output only for debugging -- needs cairo, what does it? Huh? That is only referring to the debugging output.. if that option is not enabled, the router will still try and exported

Re: gEDA-user: howto print with pcb -x eps ?

2009-11-26 Thread DJ Delorie
If your layer 2 were top, I'd say it was using layer-1 as the number to use. Which, to me, would be wrong. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: PCB not saving silkscreen when I try to make footprints

2009-11-26 Thread Anthony Shanks
Oh crap, thats it, I made the silk with polygons, not lines... whoops... On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 5:13 PM, Kai-Martin Knaak k...@familieknaak.de wrote: On Thu, 26 Nov 2009 16:04:35 -0800, Anthony Shanks wrote: 1. Draw the silkscreen and pins (drawn with vias in the component layer) 2. Select

Re: gEDA-user: Dsub15 HD

2009-11-26 Thread Bert Timmerman
Hi Anthony, Anthony Shanks wrote: Finally getting the hang of the footprint file format, here is a footprint of a dsub 15 high density connector (Analog VGA) if anyone needs it. More footprints to come.

Re: gEDA-user: Dsub15 HD

2009-11-26 Thread DJ Delorie
- annulus = 11.57 mils, is that large enough for hand soldering ? Yes, plenty. I use 8-10 mils for the annulus, but grow it after the board's laid out whenever possible, just to make it easier. - solder mask hole is 65.06 mils, giving a -2.47 mils overlap with - the pad. I set my mask

Re: gEDA-user: Dsub15 HD

2009-11-26 Thread Anthony Shanks
Sorry about the weird numbers but yes everything is in mm, the diagram I had used mm as the units so I have to draw everything using mm. I didn't consider fab requirements, hand soldering requirements, or pin numbering since just was just my first pass at me learning the tool. I'll be re-editing

Re: gEDA-user: PCB: AutoRouter

2009-11-26 Thread Ineiev
On 11/27/09, Stefan Salewski m...@ssalewski.de wrote: OK, --enable-toporouter-output is for debugging. But for PCB20091103 I do see no difference if built with --enable-toporouter-output or --disable-toporouter-output. The last time I tried it, the toporouter action resulted in some PNG