Re: gEDA-user: Open Source mechanical CAD on the horizon

2010-03-10 Thread Peter Clifton
On Tue, 2010-03-09 at 16:54 -0800, Dave N6NZ wrote: On Mar 9, 2010, at 4:01 PM, DJ Delorie wrote: is that true? Is it simply generated on the fly off the pad information during gerber export? That's true. Just in case anyone is confused by the tight snippage: It is true that there

Re: gEDA-user: Open Source mechanical CAD on the horizon

2010-03-10 Thread Gabriel Paubert
On Tue, Mar 09, 2010 at 11:33:11PM +, Peter Clifton wrote: On Tue, 2010-03-09 at 18:27 -0500, Dan McMahill wrote: pstoedit converts postscript to various formats. So I suppose you could try pcb export to postscript and then pstoedit to produce dxf. That said, there are always issues

Re: gEDA-user: Open Source mechanical CAD on the horizon

2010-03-10 Thread Gabriel Paubert
On Tue, Mar 09, 2010 at 07:56:42PM -0500, DJ Delorie wrote: One of my long-term projects is to add layer types to layers, and allow for sub-circuits (i.e. elements). Then we'd have a true paste layer, and you could define elements as complexly as you need. But it's been on the list for a

Re: gEDA-user: rant: pcb print from command line

2010-03-10 Thread Alberto Maccioni
I submitted a patch for PCB about a month ago and it has been reviewed these days; is this too much delay? Probably not, but now I read that including tests would have made the reviewing job easier and possibly shorter. But I didn't even know of the existence of such tests: the point is that to

gEDA-user: solder paste output (was: Open Source mech)

2010-03-10 Thread John Griessen
Peter Clifton wrote: On Tue, 2010-03-09 at 16:54 -0800, Dave N6NZ wrote: On Mar 9, 2010, at 4:01 PM, DJ Delorie wrote: is that true? Is it simply generated on the fly off the pad information during gerber export? That's true. I have no idea how to add a layer and do all the necessary

Re: gEDA-user: solder paste output (was: Open Source mech)

2010-03-10 Thread John Luciani
I was thinking of a post-processing script. For each footprint you would look up to see if there was a corresponding stencil footprint (maybe a .sfp file). If there was that would be used. If not then a rule would be applied to create the pattern. You could have specific rules for groups of

Re: gEDA-user: Open Source mechanical CAD on the horizon

2010-03-10 Thread DJ Delorie
Indeed, however how hard would it be to add a nopaste flag to a pad to indicate that you don't want paste for this specific pad? Only as hard as running the ChangePaste() action. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org

Re: gEDA-user: Open Source mechanical CAD on the horizon

2010-03-10 Thread DJ Delorie
Indeed, however how hard would it be to add a nopaste flag to a pad to indicate that you don't want paste for this specific pad? Only as hard as running the ChangePaste() action. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org

Re: gEDA-user: rant: pcb print from command line

2010-03-10 Thread Miguel Sánchez de León Peque
I totally agree with you (as a new user interested in developing). 2010/3/10 Alberto Maccioni [1]alberto.macci...@gmail.com I submitted a patch for PCB about a month ago and it has been reviewed these days; is this too much delay? Probably not, but now I read that

Re: gEDA-user: Open Source mechanical CAD on the horizon

2010-03-10 Thread Gabriel Paubert
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 10:13:16AM -0500, DJ Delorie wrote: Indeed, however how hard would it be to add a nopaste flag to a pad to indicate that you don't want paste for this specific pad? Only as hard as running the ChangePaste() action. I wasn't aware of its existence.

Re: gEDA-user: Open Source mechanical CAD on the horizon

2010-03-10 Thread Dave N6NZ
On Mar 10, 2010, at 4:24 AM, Peter Clifton wrote: Questions though.. What to do with a manually defined paste layer if the user fiddles with the size of the copper pad / solder mask? (Assuming that eventually becomes more flexible to edit). ? I don't think I understand the question. Are

Re: gEDA-user: rant: pcb print from command line

2010-03-10 Thread Jared Casper
On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 5:06 PM, Dan McMahill d...@mcmahill.net wrote: Here's an example of a place where extra help wouldn't have needed any knowledge of internals.  Over the years there have been various bug reports about some of the footprints that ship with pcb.  For each of those, the

Re: gEDA-user: rant: pcb print from command line

2010-03-10 Thread Jared Casper
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 5:14 AM, Alberto Maccioni alberto.macci...@gmail.com wrote: the code on the mailing list, but it took me several months to discover the submit patch procedure. What procedure did you find? Jared ___ geda-user mailing list

Re: gEDA-user: PCB Bugmail

2010-03-10 Thread Jared Casper
On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 2:09 PM, Peter Clifton pc...@cam.ac.uk wrote: Or - in my ideal word, can we just dump the crappy sourceforge bug trackers and switch to Launchpad??? (Pretty please). What are the chances of installing something like flyspray, bugzilla, or even redmine or trac, on

gEDA-user: simulating power mosfets

2010-03-10 Thread Phil Frost
I'm trying to simulate my first nontrivial circuit with ngspice. The circuit in question is a discrete MOSFET driver. I wasn't able to find any spice models for the power MOSFETs I'm using (Ixys IXTP200N055T2), but I was able to find something from Fairchild for a similar device, FDP032N08. The

Re: gEDA-user: PCB Bugmail

2010-03-10 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 10:15:41 -0800, Jared Casper jaredcas...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 2:09 PM, Peter Clifton pc...@cam.ac.uk wrote: Or - in my ideal word, can we just dump the crappy sourceforge bug trackers and switch to Launchpad??? (Pretty please). What are the chances of

Re: gEDA-user: PCB Bugmail

2010-03-10 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 18:12:20 +, Peter TB Brett wrote: It's been discussed before. http://archives.seul.org/geda/dev/Oct-2008/msg00139.html Before I read the whole thread: What was the upshot of this discussion? ---(kaimartin)--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak tel:

Re: gEDA-user: PCB Bugmail

2010-03-10 Thread Jared Casper
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 10:43 AM, Kai-Martin Knaak k...@familieknaak.de wrote: On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 18:12:20 +, Peter TB Brett wrote: It's been discussed before. http://archives.seul.org/geda/dev/Oct-2008/msg00139.html Oh yeah, I remember reading that now, thanks. :) But revisiting the

Re: gEDA-user: PCB Bugmail

2010-03-10 Thread Bob Paddock
On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 7:00 AM, Peter Clifton pc...@cam.ac.uk wrote: I don't think PCB has a mailing list for bug traffic. It does now: http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/pcb-bugs Dan set it up a couple days ago. Long ago there was a PCB specific list but I've not seen any messages

Re: gEDA-user: rant: pcb print from command line

2010-03-10 Thread Alberto Maccioni
I called it a procedure, but it's the fact that there is a submit patch function; it's so obvious to any developer that it's not written anywhere. And I didn't notice it until very recently. 2010/3/10 Jared Casper jaredcas...@gmail.com: On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 5:14 AM, Alberto Maccioni

Re: gEDA-user: rant: pcb print from command line

2010-03-10 Thread Ethan Swint
Yes - but what is the function!?! (A,B,C; 1,2,3 please.) On 03/10/2010 03:07 PM, Alberto Maccioni wrote: I called it a procedure, but it's the fact that there is a submit patch function; it's so obvious to any developer that it's not written anywhere. And I didn't notice it until very recently.

Re: gEDA-user: Open Source mechanical CAD on the horizon

2010-03-10 Thread Steven Michalske
On Mar 10, 2010, at 4:24 AM, Peter Clifton wrote: Solder mask aperture is important as well as pad size, since the stencil opening probably ought never include areas which are solder-masked. It is possible (although I'm not sure how useful) to set a partially masked pad - perhaps as some

Re: gEDA-user: rant: pcb print from command line

2010-03-10 Thread Alberto Maccioni
This: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=73743atid=538813 which is also linked from: http://www.gpleda.org/developer.html 2010/3/10 Ethan Swint eswint.r...@verizon.net: Yes - but what is the function!?! (A,B,C; 1,2,3 please.) On 03/10/2010 03:07 PM, Alberto Maccioni wrote: I called

Re: gEDA-user: rant: pcb print from command line

2010-03-10 Thread Jared Casper
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 12:18 PM, Alberto Maccioni alberto.macci...@gmail.com wrote: This: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=73743atid=538813 which is also linked from: http://www.gpleda.org/developer.html Ah yes... unfortunately, at present, Sourceforge is where patches go to die*.

Re: gEDA-user: rant: pcb print from command line

2010-03-10 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Wednesday 10 March 2010 20:26:41 Jared Casper wrote: On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 12:18 PM, Alberto Maccioni alberto.macci...@gmail.com wrote: This: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=73743atid=538813 which is also linked from: http://www.gpleda.org/developer.html Ah yes...

Re: gEDA-user: rant: pcb print from command line

2010-03-10 Thread Jared Casper
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 12:52 PM, Peter TB Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk wrote: We (Peter C I) try quite hard to keep on top of patches to gschem/libgeda etc., y'know.  Putting them in the tracker makes things a lot easier for us, and I really encourage you to keep doing that. Sorry, didn't mean

Re: gEDA-user: rant: pcb print from command line

2010-03-10 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
On Tue, 09 Mar 2010 21:11:08 -0500, Bob Paddock wrote: fwiw, there is a pcb-bugs mailing list with only me as the subscriber. Of course in all fairness, that list didn't exist yesterday ;)  That list will get all new bug reports and updates to existing reports. Don't see it listed at any of

Re: gEDA-user: simulating power mosfets

2010-03-10 Thread Joerg
Phil Frost wrote: I'm trying to simulate my first nontrivial circuit with ngspice. The circuit in question is a discrete MOSFET driver. I wasn't able to find any spice models for the power MOSFETs I'm using (Ixys IXTP200N055T2), but I was able to find something from Fairchild for a similar

Re: gEDA-user: simulating power mosfets

2010-03-10 Thread John Doty
On Mar 11, 2010, at 7:11 AM, Joerg wrote: If for some reason gEDA doesn't allow to switch to another refdes letter inside the schematic (which would be sort of strange because of differing preferences in various countries) you'd have to make a new part, then set it's refdes letter to X.

Re: gEDA-user: simulating power mosfets

2010-03-10 Thread Joerg
John Doty wrote: On Mar 11, 2010, at 7:11 AM, Joerg wrote: If for some reason gEDA doesn't allow to switch to another refdes letter inside the schematic (which would be sort of strange because of differing preferences in various countries) you'd have to make a new part, then set it's refdes

Re: gEDA-user: PCB Bugmail

2010-03-10 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:04:16 -0800, Jared Casper wrote: But revisiting the topic once every year or so doesn't seem too bad, what was true then may not still be true. One of the truths of yesteryear has changed: Bugzilla now integrates with git

Re: gEDA-user: PCB Bugmail

2010-03-10 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 14:04:42 -0500, Bob Paddock wrote: I don't think PCB has a mailing list for bug traffic. It does now: http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/pcb-bugs BTW, the mailing list software of the various geda lists, mailman, does not need a root server. So, like bugzilla,

Re: gEDA-user: documentation -- under construction....

2010-03-10 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
On Mon, 08 Mar 2010 15:53:42 +, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: In gpleda.org the tools page lists documentation as one of the core tools of geda/gaf: http://www.gpleda.org/tools/index.html This item links to a page that merely says under construction

gEDA-user: gnetlist without X?

2010-03-10 Thread asomers
Does anybody know if it's possible to compile gnetlist (and its dependency libgeda) without gtk? From the source, it looks like gnetlist should compile fine, but libgeda has quite a few gdk references that I would have to remove. I'm trying to use gnetlist on a headless Gentoo server, and I'd